9-11 Revisited
 

In article ,
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 11:55=A0am, (Mark Zenier) wrote:
In article =
.com,





Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

The commercial for the one at 8pm EST
is called "102 Minutes That Changed America", it gave me goosebumps,
unbelievable.

I remember that morning like it was yesterday and how this group came
alive, there was no bickering in here
that day....that's for sure.

Every 9-11 I google the threads from that
day and the following week to keep it fresh in my mind.

Be prepared for the next one is my motto.

The way to be prepared is to know the enemy and not live some delusional
myth that the US Media has created. =A0What does Al Quaida want? =A0We'll=
not
be told, because it would be inconvenient.

A personal question to all the group.

1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers? =A0

Disney News (ABC) didn't show that, I gather that Fox did. =A0(I first sa=
w
pictures in a copy of the New York Times that the neighbors had bought
the following morning). =A0My hypothesis is that seeing that in real-time
had great effect on people's attitudes. =A0The emotional power of video..=
.


Mark, you're speaking to the choir here when you're
talking to me. I was just mentioning the show because it included
footage from angles never
shown before.

Make no mistake about it, if Alex Jones can be screaming on his show
two months before the "attacks" that he had intel that the WTC were
going to be hit....and still it happened. You don't
have to be too bright to figure the rest out IMO.

Jones never stated a date or method.

In the summer of 2001 it was obvious to anyone reading thenews that
some sort of an attack was comming.


It's well described in chapter 6 of the 9/11 Commission Report.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, many out of his
control, they didn't work. He *did* keep us safe during the attacks of
the millennium new year but we don't hear about them because they were
foiled. Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the nearly 50 threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their
branch offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national
analysis capability.

The Bush Administration never asked the various intelligence agencies
to combine efforts against a very real threat. Clinton had "all
hands" meetings all through the fall of 1999 that effectively foiled
some Y2K attacks. The country was on high alert on New Years Eve. Bush
never putt the nation on high alert in the late summer of 2001 despite
the abundance of information about an immanent attack.

See The Commission report (2004) and updated by Amy Zegert in
Spying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11 (2007)





--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

9-11 Revisited
 

Al Dykes wrote:

In article ,
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 11:55=A0am, (Mark Zenier) wrote:
In article =
.com,





Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

The commercial for the one at 8pm EST
is called "102 Minutes That Changed America", it gave me goosebumps,
unbelievable.

I remember that morning like it was yesterday and how this group came
alive, there was no bickering in here
that day....that's for sure.

Every 9-11 I google the threads from that
day and the following week to keep it fresh in my mind.

Be prepared for the next one is my motto.

The way to be prepared is to know the enemy and not live some delusional
myth that the US Media has created. =A0What does Al Quaida want? =A0We'll=
not
be told, because it would be inconvenient.

A personal question to all the group.

1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers? =A0

Disney News (ABC) didn't show that, I gather that Fox did. =A0(I first sa=
w
pictures in a copy of the New York Times that the neighbors had bought
the following morning). =A0My hypothesis is that seeing that in real-time
had great effect on people's attitudes. =A0The emotional power of video..=
.


Mark, you're speaking to the choir here when you're
talking to me. I was just mentioning the show because it included
footage from angles never
shown before.

Make no mistake about it, if Alex Jones can be screaming on his show
two months before the "attacks" that he had intel that the WTC were
going to be hit....and still it happened. You don't
have to be too bright to figure the rest out IMO.

Jones never stated a date or method.

In the summer of 2001 it was obvious to anyone reading thenews that
some sort of an attack was comming.

It's well described in chapter 6 of the 9/11 Commission Report.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, many out of his
control, they didn't work. He *did* keep us safe during the attacks of
the millennium new year but we don't hear about them because they were
foiled. Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the nearly 50 threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their
branch offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national
analysis capability.

The Bush Administration never asked the various intelligence agencies
to combine efforts against a very real threat.

Couldn't. Remember, thanks to the Liberal assholes, the various agencies were not
allowed to share info.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

9-11 Revisited
 

Bob Dobbs wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:
1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers?

I only saw them going out open windows some stories below the top,
but none of the splattering landings were televised here.


Here ya' go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg8FQ...rom=PL&index=7

9-11 Revisited
 

Another Soldier Challenges Orders.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=273321

Would you take orders from DUMMMMMB ASS?
NOT ME!!!

Billy Mays on tv again, for Simoniz Fix It! Pro. Scratch remover.
Here's how to order.
cuhulin

9-11 Revisited
 

In article ,
dxAce wrote:


Al Dykes wrote:

In article ,
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 11:55=A0am, (Mark Zenier) wrote:
In article =
.com,





Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

The commercial for the one at 8pm EST
is called "102 Minutes That Changed America", it gave me goosebumps,
unbelievable.

I remember that morning like it was yesterday and how this group came
alive, there was no bickering in here
that day....that's for sure.

Every 9-11 I google the threads from that
day and the following week to keep it fresh in my mind.

Be prepared for the next one is my motto.

The way to be prepared is to know the enemy and not live some delusional
myth that the US Media has created. =A0What does Al Quaida want? =A0We'll=
not
be told, because it would be inconvenient.

A personal question to all the group.

1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers? =A0

Disney News (ABC) didn't show that, I gather that Fox did. =A0(I first sa=
w
pictures in a copy of the New York Times that the neighbors had bought
the following morning). =A0My hypothesis is that seeing that in real-time
had great effect on people's attitudes. =A0The emotional power of video..=
.


Mark, you're speaking to the choir here when you're
talking to me. I was just mentioning the show because it included
footage from angles never
shown before.

Make no mistake about it, if Alex Jones can be screaming on his show
two months before the "attacks" that he had intel that the WTC were
going to be hit....and still it happened. You don't
have to be too bright to figure the rest out IMO.

Jones never stated a date or method.

In the summer of 2001 it was obvious to anyone reading thenews that
some sort of an attack was comming.

It's well described in chapter 6 of the 9/11 Commission Report.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, many out of his
control, they didn't work. He *did* keep us safe during the attacks of
the millennium new year but we don't hear about them because they were
foiled. Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the nearly 50 threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their
branch offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national
analysis capability.

The Bush Administration never asked the various intelligence agencies
to combine efforts against a very real threat.

Couldn't. Remember, thanks to the Liberal assholes, the various agencies were not
allowed to share info.

dxAce




In the summer of 2001, all by itself, the FBI had plenty of evidence
to disrupt the hijackers. It was spread around all the FBI branch
offices. FBI Agents tried to get HQ attention but HQ never looked at
all of it in one place.

Read _Spying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11_ (2007)
by Amy Zegert







--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

9-11 Revisited
 

The new Techno Bra is a doosey! According to Ripley's Believe It or Not!
it has a tiny built in cellphone and GPS.Cost about fifty dollars.It
will automatically call for help if attacked.It (the Techno Bra) can be
turned on or off by the wearer of the Techno Bra.

I reckon Techno Bra company will sell billions of them!
I wants me a Techno Bra!
cuhulin

9-11 Revisited
 

dxAce wrote:


Couldn't. Remember, thanks to the Liberal assholes, the various agencies were not
allowed to share info.


September 2000: Chart with Hijacker Atta’s Photo Presented by Able
Danger at SOCOM Headquarters; Meetings with FBI Cancelled
Edit event

Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Lambert.Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Lambert. [Source: Special
Forces Command]Members of a US Army intelligence unit tasked with
assembling information about al-Qaeda have prepared a chart that
includes the names and photographs of four future hijackers, who they
have identified as members of an al-Qaeda cell based in Brooklyn, New
York. The four hijackers in the cell are Mohamed Atta, Marwan Alshehhi,
Khalid Almihdhar, and Nawaf Alhazmi. The members of the intelligence
unit, called Able Danger, present their chart at the headquarters of the
US military’s Special Operations Command (SOCOM) in Tampa, Florida, with
the recommendation that the FBI should be called in to take out the
al-Qaeda cell. Lawyers working for SOCOM argue that anyone with a green
card has to be granted the same legal protections as any US citizen, so
the information about the al-Qaeda cell cannot be shared with the FBI.
The legal team directs them to put yellow stickers over the photographs
of Mohamed Atta and the other cell members, to symbolize that they are
off limits. [Norristown Times Herald, 6/19/2005; Government Security
News, 8/2005; New York Times, 8/9/2005; St. Petersburg Times, 8/10/2005;
New York Times, 8/17/2005; Government Security News, 9/2005] Lt. Col.
Anthony Shaffer later says that an unnamed two-star general above him is
“very adamant” about not looking further at Atta. “I was directed
several times [to ignore Atta], to the point where he had to remind me
he was a general and I was not… [and] I would essentially be fired.”
[Fox News, 8/19/2005] Military leaders at the meeting take the side of
the lawyers and prohibit any sharing of information about the al-Qaeda
cell. Shaffer believes that the decision to side with the lawyers is
made by Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Lambert (who had previously expressed
distress when Able Danger data was destroyed without his prior
notification (see May-June 2000)). He also believes that Gen. Peter
Schoomaker, head of SOCOM, is not aware of the decision. [Government
Security News, 9/2005]

Entity Tags: Mohamed Atta, Special Operations Command, Marwan Alshehhi,
Al-Qaeda, Nawaf Alhazmi, Peter J. Schoomaker, Khalid Almihdhar, Anthony
Shaffer, Able Danger, Geoffrey Lambert

Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline

Category Tags: Alhazmi and Almihdhar, Marwan Alshehhi, Mohamed Atta,
Able Danger, Key Hijacker Events

9-11 Revisited
 

About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there.I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.
cuhulin

9-11 Revisited
 

NASA Selects Moon Crater To Be Bombed.
www.rense.com

What happens if they knock the Moon out of orbit?

What a Ca tas toe strope! ~ Jimmy Durante.
Good Night, Mrs.Calabash, wherever you are!
cuhulin

9-11 Revisited
 

Richard Gage On 9-11 Inside Job.
www.rense.com

Does he have Standing?
I say, YES!
I also say again, 9-11 WAS an INSIDE JOB!
So WAS Oklahoma City!
cuhulin

9-11 Revisited
 

On Sep 13, 8:46*pm, wrote:
About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there.I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.

Here you go Cuhulin. Better IMO than the Bose (just
my opinion) and alot cheaper, I think mine was
$99.99 - - I bought one a few months after they came
out.

When I read that Henry Kloss was the inventor I
had to get it. Definitely not a BCB DX machine, but
the sound that comes from it is incredible.
http://www.tivoliaudio.com/home.php?cat=262

9-11 Revisited
 

On Sep 12, 8:55*am, (Mark Zenier) wrote:
In article ,



Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

The commercial for the one at 8pm EST
is called "102 Minutes That Changed America", it gave me goosebumps,
unbelievable.

I remember that morning like it was yesterday and how this group came
alive, there was no bickering in here
that day....that's for sure.

Every 9-11 I google the threads from that
day and the following week to keep it fresh in my mind.

Be prepared for the next one is my motto.

The way to be prepared is to know the enemy and not live some delusional
myth that the US Media has created. *What does Al Quaida want? *We'll not
be told, because it would be inconvenient.

A personal question to all the group.

1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers? *

- Disney News (ABC) didn't show that, I gather that Fox did. *(I first
saw
- pictures in a copy of the New York Times that the neighbors had
bought
- the following morning). *My hypothesis is that seeing that in real-
time
- had great effect on people's attitudes. *The emotional power of
video...
-
- Mark Zenier *
- Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

FOX News showed the Videos and also aired
Interviews of some of the Witnesses.

America Remember 9/11 and Never Forget ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...58620e2d4516a5
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...74f64bff0b57b8

(OT) : The 9-12 Project "We The People" -versus- Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling
 

On Sep 13, 7:30*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On Sep 13, 2:31*am, "~ RHF" wrote:



On Sep 12, 9:00*am, dave wrote:

wrote:
Soldiers, Vets, Police say, 'We Will NOT Obey': The solution for peace
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=273157

Right Onnnnnn!
cuhulin

- You crackers want another war over race?!?

Dave calling people 'crackers' is one way of
instigating and promoting an attitude between
people creating the Hate leading up-to a Race
War : Making 'you' as the Agent Provocateur.http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=315ju42&s=3

- Sorry racist, but only white people showed up and only white people
- were expected to show up. *Kinda like a repug convention, once you
get
- by the one black face, no more African-Americans.
-
- Face it, you had a Klan rally with out the robes.

OK so here we see the latest Obama-Bot© Reply
to any news and views but their news and views.
name-calling, Name-Calling. NAME CALLING !
shout-it-down, Shout-It-Down. SHOUT-IT-DOWN !
fear-words, Fear-Words. FEAR-WORDS !

Obama-Speak© 'racist'
* Labeling the All American 9-12 Project Rallies
as "Racist" = Class Warfare & Race Cardism
# A clear example of the Liberal-Fascism of
the Obama-Regime© and the Obama-Bots©

Obama-Speak© 'repug'
* Labeling the All American 9-12 Project Rallies
as "Repug" = Political Hate Mongering
# A clear example of the Liberal-Fascism of
the Obama-Regime© and the Obama-Bots©

Obama-Speak© 'black face'
* Labeling the All American 9-12 Project Rallies
as "Black Face" = Race Baiting
# A clear example of the Liberal-Fascism of
the Obama-Regime© and the Obama-Bots©

Obama-Speak© 'African-American'
* Labeling the All American 9-12 Project Rallies
as Anti "African-American" = Race Baiting
# A clear example of the Liberal-Fascism of
the Obama-Regime© and the Obama-Bots©

Obama-Speak© 'Klan rally'
* Labeling the All American 9-12 Project Rallies
as "Klan Rally" = Racial Hate Mongering
# A clear example of the Liberal-Fascism of
the Obama-Regime© and the Obama-Bots©

The Obama-Bots© They Fear The Truth.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4cd729f9c05223

The Obama-Speakers© They Fear The Facts.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...ef7b6993934317

The Obama-Regime© Fears American US Citizens
Coming Together {United} and Speaking Up for the
Truth with Facts.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d709b0ba48300c

(OT) : The Real Roots of 9/11 and the Problems in the US IntelligenceServices began in 1975
 

In article ,
~ RHF wrote:
On Sep 13, 2:37=A0pm, dxAce wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article =
s.com,
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 11:55=3DA0am, (Mark Zenier) wrote:
In article =
roups=3D
.com,

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

The commercial for the one at 8pm EST
is called "102 Minutes That Changed America", it gave me goosebumps=
,
unbelievable.

I remember that morning like it was yesterday and how this group ca=
me
alive, there was no bickering in here
that day....that's for sure.

Every 9-11 I google the threads from that
day and the following week to keep it fresh in my mind.

Be prepared for the next one is my motto.

The way to be prepared is to know the enemy and not live some delusi=
onal
myth that the US Media has created. =3DA0What does Al Quaida want? =
=3DA0We'll=3D
not
be told, because it would be inconvenient.

A personal question to all the group.

1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers? =3DA0

Disney News (ABC) didn't show that, I gather that Fox did. =3DA0(I f=
irst sa=3D
w
pictures in a copy of the New York Times that the neighbors had boug=
ht
the following morning). =3DA0My hypothesis is that seeing that in re=
al-time
had great effect on people's attitudes. =3DA0The emotional power of =
video..=3D
.

Mark, you're speaking to the choir here when you're
talking to me. I was just mentioning the show because it included
footage from angles never
shown before.

Make no mistake about it, if Alex Jones can be screaming on his show
two months before the "attacks" that he had intel that the WTC were
going to be hit....and still it happened. You don't
have to be too bright to figure the rest out IMO.

Jones never stated a date or method.

In the summer of 2001 it was obvious to anyone reading thenews that
some sort of an attack was comming.

It's well described in chapter 6 of the 9/11 Commission Report.

=A0http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, many out of his
control, they didn't work. He *did* keep us safe during the attacks of
the millennium new year but we don't hear about them because they were
foiled. =A0Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the nearly 50 threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their
branch offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national
analysis capability.

The Bush Administration never asked the various intelligence agencies
to combine efforts against a very real threat.

Couldn't. Remember, thanks to the Liberal assholes, the various agencies =
were not
allowed to share info.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

WHY DID 9/11 HAPPEN ?
One Man =3D Senator Frank Church (Idaho-Dem)
It was the Democrats lead by Frank Church that "Handicapped"
the US Intelligence Agencies that has resulted in many of our
Human Intelligence Failures that are still happening today.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...446cd97fd5b524

The Real Roots of 9/11 and the Problems in the US Intelligence
Services began in 1975. In 1975, Senator Frank Church (Idaho-Dem)
became the Chairman of the Select Committee to Study Governmental
Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities. This committee
investigated alleged abuses of power by the Central Intelligence
Agency and the Federal Bureau of Intelligence.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...0e21f5329fa85a



Without denying that there were firewall problems, In the summer of
2001, teh FBI in it's brabch offies had all the information they
needed to disrupt the hijacking plot. FBI agents trid to get HQ
attention but the FBI culture was strictly about catching bank robbers
and kidnappings after the act.

See The Commission report (2004) and updated by Amy Zegert in _Spying
Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11_ (2007)

The roots of our problems in the middle-east go back to 1953 when the
US overthrew a democratic government in Iran and put in a despot, the
Shah.








--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

(OT) : The Real Roots of 9/11 and the Problems in the USIntell...
 

Tomorrow is the One Five.tHat means I will apply a little tube of Bayer
Advantage 55 to the top of doggy's neck.
cuhulin

9-11 Revisited
 

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4aacc82d.22322234@chupacabra...
dxAce wrote:
the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.

The one that they still deny was shot down?
If you can still find it take a listen to the Cleveland controller
reporting fl93 ascending to over 40k feet altitude then smoke reported
after the arrival of a couple F-16s and later ground impact points
(plural) were located as the debris came down.

--
Death to Truthers!

(OT) : The Real Roots of 9/11 and the Problems in the USIntelligence Services began in 1975
 

On Sep 14, 6:45*am, (Al Dykes) wrote:
In article ,



~ RHF wrote:
On Sep 13, 2:37=A0pm, dxAce wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article =
s.com,
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 11:55=3DA0am, (Mark Zenier) wrote:
In article =
roups=3D
.com,

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

The commercial for the one at 8pm EST
is called "102 Minutes That Changed America", it gave me goosebumps=
,
unbelievable.

I remember that morning like it was yesterday and how this group ca=
me
alive, there was no bickering in here
that day....that's for sure.

Every 9-11 I google the threads from that
day and the following week to keep it fresh in my mind.

Be prepared for the next one is my motto.

The way to be prepared is to know the enemy and not live some delusi=
onal
myth that the US Media has created. =3DA0What does Al Quaida want? =
=3DA0We'll=3D
not
be told, because it would be inconvenient.

A personal question to all the group.

1. Did the TV coverage you watched show the people jumping from the
top of the towers? =3DA0

Disney News (ABC) didn't show that, I gather that Fox did. =3DA0(I f=
irst sa=3D
w
pictures in a copy of the New York Times that the neighbors had boug=
ht
the following morning). =3DA0My hypothesis is that seeing that in re=
al-time
had great effect on people's attitudes. =3DA0The emotional power of =
video..=3D
.

Mark, you're speaking to the choir here when you're
talking to me. I was just mentioning the show because it included
footage from angles never
shown before.

Make no mistake about it, if Alex Jones can be screaming on his show
two months before the "attacks" that he had intel that the WTC were
going to be hit....and still it happened. You don't
have to be too bright to figure the rest out IMO.

Jones never stated a date or method.

In the summer of 2001 it was obvious to anyone reading thenews that
some sort of an attack was comming.

It's well described in chapter 6 of the 9/11 Commission Report.

=A0http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, many out of his
control, they didn't work. He *did* keep us safe during the attacks of
the millennium new year but we don't hear about them because they were
foiled. =A0Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the nearly 50 threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their
branch offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national
analysis capability.

The Bush Administration never asked the various intelligence agencies
to combine efforts against a very real threat.

Couldn't. Remember, thanks to the Liberal assholes, the various agencies =
were not
allowed to share info.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

WHY DID 9/11 HAPPEN ?
One Man =3D Senator Frank Church (Idaho-Dem)
It was the Democrats lead by Frank Church that "Handicapped"
the US Intelligence Agencies that has resulted in many of our
Human Intelligence Failures that are still happening today.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...446cd97fd5b524

The Real Roots of 9/11 and the Problems in the US Intelligence
Services began in 1975. * In 1975, Senator Frank Church (Idaho-Dem)
became the Chairman of the Select Committee to Study Governmental
Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities. *This committee
investigated alleged abuses of power by the Central Intelligence
Agency and the Federal Bureau of Intelligence.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...0e21f5329fa85a

Without denying that there were firewall problems, In the summer of
2001, teh FBI in it's brabch offies had all the information they
needed to disrupt the hijacking plot. FBI agents trid to get HQ
attention but the FBI culture was strictly about catching bank robbers
and kidnappings after the act.

See The Commission report (2004) and updated by Amy Zegert in _Spying
* *Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11_ (2007)

- The roots of our problems in the middle-east go back to 1953 when
the
- US overthrew a democratic government in Iran and put in a despot,
the
- Shah.

The 'roots' of the USA problem come from WWI
and WWII when we allowed the Kingdom of
Saudi Arabia to continue to exist.

Prez Obama needs to 'Change' Saudi Arabia and
begin to Set the Peoples of the Middle East Free.


--
Al Dykes
*News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
* * - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

9-11 Revisited
 

On Sep 14, 8:43*am, "MNMikeW" wrote:
"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message

news:4aacc82d.22322234@chupacabra...

dxAce wrote:
the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.

The one that they still deny was shot down?
If you can still find it take a listen to the Cleveland controller
reporting fl93 ascending to over 40k feet altitude then smoke reported
after the arrival of a couple F-16s and later ground impact points
(plural) were located as the debris came down.

--
- - Death to Truthers!

? Death to Truthers ? -result- The True Dies [.]

(OT) : More 'Toxic' Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts -was- 9-11Revisited
 

On Sep 14, 11:59*am, Toxic wrote:
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:10:53 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 13, 8:36*am, Toxic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:50:05 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 12:25*pm, Toxic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:47:43 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * ********rest snipped********

Dave, I have to be somewhat careful what I say and how I say it in
here. Much of what happened, at its
very origin started here in Cincinnati and I will leave it at
that.

Are you implying that you either were complicit in that event, or at
the least, have knowledge that you are unwilling to share, even if
it could be beneficial to the ongoing security of this country?

Umm.....yea. That's right. Call the FBI.rolling my eyes Do your own
homework pal.

You were the one alluding to some arcane connection you (would like to
have) had to those events.

" Arcane Connection"? Just about anyone that lives in Cincinnati knows
exactly what I mean, like I said, do your own homework.

- Not everyone reading this group lives in that stench hole of yours
and
- since YOU suggested something, maybe it's you that could bother to
- enlighten us, unless it's like much of the rest of your comments,
pure
- bull****. *

Toxic 'bull****' that's Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts.


...Or perhaps merely trying to conflate the circumstance of your
residence to the proximity of an activity with which you were
totally unconnected yet serves conveniently to impute self
importance?

LMAO - what a retard...lol.

Yer so kewl... and important too. It's the vacuous egos like yours that
suck so much off topic crap into these fora.

It's dickheads...lol...like you that post with "out of the ordinary"
words on usenet - such as yourself snickerto try an "somewhat" give
the appearance of intelligience.

- I feel no obligation to restrict my comments to single syllable
words to
- accommodate some marginally literate imbecile that stumbles across
them.
- Go get yourself a dictionary if you can find one that you can figure
out.

Toxic 'marginally literate imbecile' that's
Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts.

The last time I heard the freeking term "vacuous" was from my homosexual
( too each their own) eighth grade art teacher....lol...put away your
Webster there pal and try again.snicker Color me not impressed.

- Relating your youthful social activities of a sexual nature is
hardly
- germane to this topic.

Toxic that's just more Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts.

"Fora"?....lol...Oh quit it and be real.rolling my eyes

Yer so gay!

For AM & FM Radio Listening : Two Radios Are Better Than One
 

On Sep 14, 8:15*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Sep 13, 7:42*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:





On Sep 13, 8:46*pm, wrote:

About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there.I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.

Here you go Cuhulin. Better IMO than the Bose (just
my opinion) and alot cheaper, I think mine was
$99.99 - - I bought one a few months after they came
out.

When I read that Henry Kloss was the inventor I
had to get it. Definitely not a BCB DX machine, but
the sound that comes from it is incredible.http://www.tivoliaudio.com/home.php?cat=262

For most of my simple 'mono' AM/MW Radio
listening the RCA [GE] Superadio III still has
a 'nice' clear full sound.http://www.amazon.com/RCA-RP7887-Sup.../dp/B00120WRSU

Cambridge SoundWorks 740 CD/Radio is used
for most of the FM "Stereo" Radio listening.
Maybe the Bose will sound better with a CD
but imho the Radio section of the Bose 'sucks'
and the CSW FM Radio section just sounds
better to my ears.http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Soun.../dp/B0000D1E04
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One of these days I am just going too have to pull
the trigger and purchase a SRI or II just to see if
it DX's better than my GE P780.

9-11 Revisited
 

On Sep 14, 8:34*am, dave wrote:
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 13, 8:46 pm, wrote:
About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there.I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.

Here you go Cuhulin. Better IMO than the Bose (just
my opinion) and alot cheaper, I think mine was
$99.99 - - I bought one a few months after they came
out.

When I read that Henry Kloss was the inventor I
had to get it. Definitely not a BCB DX machine, but
the sound that comes from it is incredible.
http://www.tivoliaudio.com/home.php?cat=262

Henry Kloss was a hero of mine. *I have a Tivoli Model One radio and I
have 4 Cambridge Soundworks Model Six speakers. *The AR3 was the first
speaker I ever fell in love with.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah man, that has got to be the killer setup. I don't
really listen to music much but every now and then
I'll turn that thing up real loud, it's the only radio I've
had that I can turn it up all the way and there's no distortion
whatsoever.

9-11 Revisited
 

On Sep 14, 3:21*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
Toxic wrote:
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:10:53 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:36*am, Toxic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:50:05 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 12:25*pm, Toxic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:47:43 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * ********rest snipped********

Dave, I have to be somewhat careful what I say and how I say it in
here. Much of what happened, at its
very origin started here in Cincinnati and I will leave it at
that.

Are you implying that you either were complicit in that event, or at
the least, have knowledge that you are unwilling to share, even if
it could be beneficial to the ongoing security of this country?

Umm.....yea. That's right. Call the FBI.rolling my eyes Do your own
homework pal.

You were the one alluding to some arcane connection you (would like to
have) had to those events.

" Arcane Connection"? Just about anyone that lives in Cincinnati knows
exactly what I mean, like I said, do your own homework.

Not everyone reading this group lives in that stench hole of yours and
since YOU suggested something, maybe it's you that could bother to
enlighten us, unless it's like much of the rest of your comments, pure
bull****. *

...Or perhaps merely trying to conflate the circumstance of your
residence to the proximity of an activity with which you were
totally unconnected yet serves conveniently to impute self
importance?

LMAO - what a retard...lol.

Yer so kewl... and important too. It's the vacuous egos like yours that
suck so much off topic crap into these fora.

It's dickheads...lol...like you that post with "out of the ordinary"
words on usenet - such as yourself snickerto try an "somewhat" give
the appearance of intelligience.

I feel no obligation to restrict my comments to single syllable words to
accommodate some marginally literate imbecile that stumbles across them.
Go get yourself a dictionary if you can find one that you can figure out..

The last time I heard the freeking term "vacuous" was from my homosexual
( too each their own) eighth grade art teacher....lol...put away your
Webster there pal and try again.snicker Color me not impressed.

Relating your youthful social activities of a sexual nature is hardly
germane to this topic.

"Fora"?....lol...Oh quit it and be real.rolling my eyes

Yer so gay!

Here we go...
It's Babbling Blazy Bataviaboi versus some noetic newcomer,
stay tuned, could get good.
Maybe time for Gregg to cut and run.

--

Lets guess who it really is....lol. Do you have a
boyfriend in Batavia or something? You sure mention
it everytime you have the chance, have you ever been to Batavia? I
will be there tomorrow for an hour
or so, maybe you can meet me there and say hi.:-P

(OT) : More 'Toxic' Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts -was-9-11 Revisited
 

On Sep 14, 5:07*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Sep 14, 11:59*am, Toxic wrote:



On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:10:53 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 13, 8:36*am, Toxic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:50:05 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 12, 12:25*pm, Toxic wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:47:43 -0700, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * ********rest snipped********

Dave, I have to be somewhat careful what I say and how I say it in
here. Much of what happened, at its
very origin started here in Cincinnati and I will leave it at
that.

Are you implying that you either were complicit in that event, or at
the least, have knowledge that you are unwilling to share, even if
it could be beneficial to the ongoing security of this country?

Umm.....yea. That's right. Call the FBI.rolling my eyes Do your own
homework pal.

You were the one alluding to some arcane connection you (would like to
have) had to those events.

" Arcane Connection"? Just about anyone that lives in Cincinnati knows
exactly what I mean, like I said, do your own homework.

- Not everyone reading this group lives in that stench hole of yours
and
- since YOU suggested something, maybe it's you that could bother to
- enlighten us, unless it's like much of the rest of your comments,
pure
- bull****. *

Toxic 'bull****' that's Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts.



...Or perhaps merely trying to conflate the circumstance of your
residence to the proximity of an activity with which you were
totally unconnected yet serves conveniently to impute self
importance?

LMAO - what a retard...lol.

Yer so kewl... and important too. It's the vacuous egos like yours that
suck so much off topic crap into these fora.

It's dickheads...lol...like you that post with "out of the ordinary"
words on usenet - such as yourself snickerto try an "somewhat" give
the appearance of intelligience.

- I feel no obligation to restrict my comments to single syllable
words to
- accommodate some marginally literate imbecile that stumbles across
them.
- Go get yourself a dictionary if you can find one that you can figure
out.

Toxic 'marginally literate imbecile' that's
Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts.

The last time I heard the freeking term "vacuous" was from my homosexual
( too each their own) eighth grade art teacher....lol...put away your
Webster there pal and try again.snicker Color me not impressed.

- Relating your youthful social activities of a sexual nature is
hardly
- germane to this topic.

Toxic that's just more Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts.



"Fora"?....lol...Oh quit it and be real.rolling my eyes

Yer so gay!- Hide quoted text -


What else can you expect? His monicker says it
all. Enough said about that.

(OT) : More 'Toxic' Liberal-Fascist Name Calling Not Facts-was...
 

Telly Savalas (Kelly's Heroes) was right.(Yentl movie crankin up on the
TCM channel right now) Barbra Streisand, Mandy Patinkin, Amy Irvin.

Sarge, do me a favor, will you? ///What?///
Don't call me Barbara, my name is Barbra.
Barbra is a girls name.
cuhulin

Some GE Radios that were Built before the GE Superadios
 

On Sep 14, 4:08*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 14, 8:15*am, "~ RHF" wrote:



On Sep 13, 7:42*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:46*pm, wrote:

About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there.I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.

Here you go Cuhulin. Better IMO than the Bose (just
my opinion) and alot cheaper, I think mine was
$99.99 - - I bought one a few months after they came
out.

When I read that Henry Kloss was the inventor I
had to get it. Definitely not a BCB DX machine, but
the sound that comes from it is incredible.http://www.tivoliaudio.com/home.php?cat=262

- - For most of my simple 'mono' AM/MW Radio
- - listening the RCA [GE] Superadio III still has
- - a 'nice' clear full sound.
- - http://www.amazon.com/RCA-RP7887-Sup.../dp/B00120WRSU

Cambridge SoundWorks 740 CD/Radio is used
for most of the FM "Stereo" Radio listening.
Maybe the Bose will sound better with a CD
but imho the Radio section of the Bose 'sucks'
and the CSW FM Radio section just sounds
better to my ears.http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Soun.../dp/B0000D1E04
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- One of these days I am just going too have to pull
- the trigger and purchase a SRI or II just to see if
- it DX's better than my GE P780.

The old GE P780s were good Radios for their time
50s/60s and still do a very good job of picking up
AM/MW Radio stations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ADNorEqbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGCAwGo-Ew0
http://www.transistor.org/feature/jutson/details.html

G-E P780 General Electric All Transistor Radio
http://www.radiolaguy.com/Showcase/GE_P780.htm

GENERAL ELECTRIC P780 AM PORTABLES
http://www.radiointel.com/nrge.htm

Some GE Radios that were Built before the GE Superadios
 

The Bomgar Box. www.clarionledger.com
www.bomgar.com

Where he grew up is only about three or four miles West of doggy's
couch.
cuhulin

Some GE Radios that were Built before the GE Superadios
 

On Sep 14, 8:34*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Sep 14, 4:08*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:



On Sep 14, 8:15*am, "~ RHF" wrote:

On Sep 13, 7:42*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:46*pm, wrote:

About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there..I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.

Here you go Cuhulin. Better IMO than the Bose (just
my opinion) and alot cheaper, I think mine was
$99.99 - - I bought one a few months after they came
out.

When I read that Henry Kloss was the inventor I
had to get it. Definitely not a BCB DX machine, but
the sound that comes from it is incredible.http://www.tivoliaudio.com/home.php?cat=262

- - For most of my simple 'mono' AM/MW Radio
- - listening the RCA [GE] Superadio III still has
- - a 'nice' clear full sound.
- -http://www.amazon.com/RCA-RP7887-Super-Portable-Radio/dp/B00120WRSU

Cambridge SoundWorks 740 CD/Radio is used
for most of the FM "Stereo" Radio listening.
Maybe the Bose will sound better with a CD
but imho the Radio section of the Bose 'sucks'
and the CSW FM Radio section just sounds
better to my ears.http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Soun.../dp/B0000D1E04
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- One of these days I am just going too have to pull
- the trigger and purchase a SRI or II just to see if
- it DX's better than my GE P780.

The old GE P780s were good Radios for their time
50s/60s and still do a very good job of picking up
AM/MW Radio stations.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ADN...n/details.html

G-E P780 General Electric All Transistor Radiohttp://www.radiolaguy.com/Showcase/GE_P780.htm

GENERAL ELECTRIC P780 AM PORTABLEShttp://www.radiointel.com/nrge.htm
*.
The GE P780 the Radio before the Superadiohttp://theradiokitchen.net/super-cheap-and-almost-super/

Sarah's Collection of {Old} Transistor Radioshttp://www.transistor.org/collection/collection.html#TOP

DXing with 'Old' Radioshttp://www.cajuncomp.com/dxing.htm
*.
GE World Monitor P-990 AM/FM/LW Shortwave Radiohttp://www.transistor.org/feature/jutson/p990.htmlhttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87lrg.jpg
was build around the same time period and had
the FM Band and Shortwave Radio Bands too...
* The GE P-990 had an Analog Frequency Dialhttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87disp.jpg
* The GE P-990 had a Leather Casehttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/u597rear.jpg
* The GE P-990 was well builthttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/u597sys.jpg
* The GE P-990 product name tag IDhttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/u597lbl2.jpg
* The GE P-990 had Two (2) Whip Antennas
* * Shortwave *Whip Antenna and A&G Terminals
* * FM Whip Antenna
+ + Built-in AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antennahttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87top.jpghttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87lbl.jpg

NOTE - The GE World Monitor P-990 AM/FM/LW
Shortwave Radio was built-to-last; before the Age
of All Plastic {Cheap} Radios.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPcHKOorr0

Great links there RHF, if no one else appreciated the links, I did.
I've spent a little over two hours reading them.

I have two of P780's. The one on my table is the one with external
antenna terminals on the back, I really enjoy it. One of our forum
members did a great job on it.

I plan on going out to the cabin this winter out in Boo-Foo Tennessee,
there is absolutely nothing out there RF wise and I'll definitely be
bringing
the 780 with me. It really shines out there. :-)

Some GE Radios that were Built before the GE Superadios
 

On Sep 14, 8:34*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Sep 14, 4:08*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:



On Sep 14, 8:15*am, "~ RHF" wrote:

On Sep 13, 7:42*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:46*pm, wrote:

About a month ago I was over at my old buddy's house.I saw a Bose radio
sitting on one of the kitchen counter tops.His wife wasen't there..I
says, Turn it on, lets see what it sounds like.It is his wife's radio
and he never messes with her stuff.I turned the radio on.It didn't
impress me at all! I explained to him how the sound in that Bose radio
is routed through two cardboard tubes.

Here you go Cuhulin. Better IMO than the Bose (just
my opinion) and alot cheaper, I think mine was
$99.99 - - I bought one a few months after they came
out.

When I read that Henry Kloss was the inventor I
had to get it. Definitely not a BCB DX machine, but
the sound that comes from it is incredible.http://www.tivoliaudio.com/home.php?cat=262

- - For most of my simple 'mono' AM/MW Radio
- - listening the RCA [GE] Superadio III still has
- - a 'nice' clear full sound.
- -http://www.amazon.com/RCA-RP7887-Super-Portable-Radio/dp/B00120WRSU

Cambridge SoundWorks 740 CD/Radio is used
for most of the FM "Stereo" Radio listening.
Maybe the Bose will sound better with a CD
but imho the Radio section of the Bose 'sucks'
and the CSW FM Radio section just sounds
better to my ears.http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Soun.../dp/B0000D1E04
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- One of these days I am just going too have to pull
- the trigger and purchase a SRI or II just to see if
- it DX's better than my GE P780.

The old GE P780s were good Radios for their time
50s/60s and still do a very good job of picking up
AM/MW Radio stations.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ADN...n/details.html

G-E P780 General Electric All Transistor Radiohttp://www.radiolaguy.com/Showcase/GE_P780.htm

GENERAL ELECTRIC P780 AM PORTABLEShttp://www.radiointel.com/nrge.htm
*.
The GE P780 the Radio before the Superadiohttp://theradiokitchen.net/super-cheap-and-almost-super/

Sarah's Collection of {Old} Transistor Radioshttp://www.transistor.org/collection/collection.html#TOP

DXing with 'Old' Radioshttp://www.cajuncomp.com/dxing.htm
*.
GE World Monitor P-990 AM/FM/LW Shortwave Radiohttp://www.transistor.org/feature/jutson/p990.htmlhttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87lrg.jpg
was build around the same time period and had
the FM Band and Shortwave Radio Bands too...
* The GE P-990 had an Analog Frequency Dialhttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87disp.jpg
* The GE P-990 had a Leather Casehttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/u597rear.jpg
* The GE P-990 was well builthttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/u597sys.jpg
* The GE P-990 product name tag IDhttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/u597lbl2.jpg
* The GE P-990 had Two (2) Whip Antennas
* * Shortwave *Whip Antenna and A&G Terminals
* * FM Whip Antenna
+ + Built-in AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antennahttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87top.jpghttp://www.universal-radio.com/USED/uL87lbl.jpg

NOTE - The GE World Monitor P-990 AM/FM/LW
Shortwave Radio was built-to-last; before the Age
of All Plastic {Cheap} Radios.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPcHKOorr0
*.
it's radio so... it's as simple as just listening ~ RHF
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loved that "Radio Kitchen" and "DXing with Old Radios" links,
I never saw those two before. {?}

(OT) : The 9-12 Project "We The People" News -versus- The LiberalMedia Black-Out
 

On Sep 13, 7:11*am, dave wrote:
- - ~ RHF wrote:
- - *.
- - The 9-12 Project "We The People" News
- - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cghAiWH_AUM
- - Thousands of Downtown D.C. Protesters Blast Obama
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...dbb72221870546

- Your rallies are virtually all white people.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7fe634185fe6eb

-*That's not a populist uprising.

Dave 'uprising' these are Americans Peacefully Protesting :
NOT Anarchists {Liberal-Fascist} attempting a Power Grab
-or- Trying to Burn Down {Destroy} the US Government
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...df3f56c56243e5

OK Dave you are such a good little Obama-Bot©
when you pronounce in Obama-Speak© that in
your new "O"Merica© "White People" Don't Count.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people

Dave - Fact is that 79.8% of Americans are generally
categorized as "White' People {The Vast Majority}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA#Demographics
-so- Dave you would Disenfranchised 4 out of 5
Americans for being "White People".

dave - in my america all people count ~ RHF

9-11 Revisited
 

Bushcraftgregg wrote:

- Show quoted text -

Ah man, that has got to be the killer setup. I don't
really listen to music much but every now and then
I'll turn that thing up real loud, it's the only radio I've
had that I can turn it up all the way and there's no distortion
whatsoever.

I have a Whole House Gold FM transmitter that I use to broadcast web
streams. I make good use of my BA Recepter HD and my Tivoli Model One.

(OT) : The 9-12 Project "We The People" News -versus- The LiberalMedia Black-Out
 

~ RHF wrote:


Two Million American US Citizens on the Streets
of Washington, DC =Photos=Reality=Proof=
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109844
Real News Coverage of a Human Event
http://www.foxnews.com/search-result...m#q=9-12+Rally
Not a Government Media Black-Out

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_286082.html
Tea Party protesters trying to tout the size of their march on
Washington last weekend have been passing around a photo of a packed
National Mall. But the picture is years old.

Politifact asked Pete Piringer, public affairs officer for the D.C. Fire
and Emergency Department, if the rally was big enough to fill that
space. Piringer said no -- and moreover, the picture can't be from 2009.

"It was an impressive crowd," he said. But after marching down
Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol the crowd "only filled the Capitol
grounds, maybe up to Third Street," he said.


Yet the photo showed the crowd sprawling far beyond that to the
Washington Monument, which is bordered by 15th and and 17th Streets.

There's another big problem with the photograph: it doesn't include
the National Museum of the American Indian, a building located at the
corner of Fourth St. and Independence Ave. that opened on Sept. 14,
2004. (Looking at the photograph, the building should be in the upper
right hand corner of the National Mall, next to the Air and Space
Museum.) That means the picture was taken before the museum opened
exactly five years ago. So clearly the photo doesn't show the "tea
party" crowd from the Sept. 12 protest.

"I've seen bigger crowds at Montreal Expos games, but I still wouldn't
fake a photo just to justify your predictions of millions descending on
Washington," said one gleeful Democratic media strategist. "This is
grade-A stupid and just plays into the argument that these were
astroturf protests to begin with. They've always brought the noise, but
the question that was supposed to be answered this weekend was, could
they bring the numbers? In that respect this was an unmitigated disaster."

The photo had been circulated on blogs and Twitter. A number of
conservative blogs have since taken the photo down. Some have corrected
their posts. Others say the circulation of the picture was a left-wing
conspiracy to discredit the event. However, many of them are still
claiming that at least a million people attended the march. Nate Silver
estimates about 70,000 protesters showed up.

It isn't the first failed attempt by the protesters to inflate the size
of the event. On Saturday, organizer Matt Kibbe announced on stage that
ABC News had estimated a crowd of 1 to 1.5 million. ABC News had
reported no such thing.

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FOIA - Office Of The President.
www.rense.com/general87/foia.htm

There is a hitch though, America does NOT have a President! Nor a Vice
President either!
cuhulin

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(cross-posting-crap-cut).

Dave, your spot on. Okie Joe said in an email, it looked to be, maybe
20 to 25K. less than i see at a Steeler game by a bunch. here in Western
PA, the express came last week to Cranberry twp. TV news said maybe 100
people, friend told me 15 at most. Teabagger git together at Bushy Run
state park, over the weekend, maybe 10 people. the neo-cons can jump
up and down all they want. this is the truth. I did Pat-Guard at a
small local cemetery. one Vet, we got almost 500 people. i love doing
Patriot Guard, VN vets are people too ya know.

Drifter...




dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:


Two Million American US Citizens on the Streets
of Washington, DC =Photos=Reality=Proof=
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109844
Real News Coverage of a Human Event
http://www.foxnews.com/search-result...m#q=9-12+Rally

Not a Government Media Black-Out

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_286082.html

Tea Party protesters trying to tout the size of their march on
Washington last weekend have been passing around a photo of a packed
National Mall. But the picture is years old.

Politifact asked Pete Piringer, public affairs officer for the D.C. Fire
and Emergency Department, if the rally was big enough to fill that
space. Piringer said no -- and moreover, the picture can't be from 2009.

"It was an impressive crowd," he said. But after marching down
Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol the crowd "only filled the Capitol
grounds, maybe up to Third Street," he said.


Yet the photo showed the crowd sprawling far beyond that to the
Washington Monument, which is bordered by 15th and and 17th Streets.

There's another big problem with the photograph: it doesn't include
the National Museum of the American Indian, a building located at the
corner of Fourth St. and Independence Ave. that opened on Sept. 14,
2004. (Looking at the photograph, the building should be in the upper
right hand corner of the National Mall, next to the Air and Space
Museum.) That means the picture was taken before the museum opened
exactly five years ago. So clearly the photo doesn't show the "tea
party" crowd from the Sept. 12 protest.

"I've seen bigger crowds at Montreal Expos games, but I still wouldn't
fake a photo just to justify your predictions of millions descending on
Washington," said one gleeful Democratic media strategist. "This is
grade-A stupid and just plays into the argument that these were
astroturf protests to begin with. They've always brought the noise, but
the question that was supposed to be answered this weekend was, could
they bring the numbers? In that respect this was an unmitigated disaster."

The photo had been circulated on blogs and Twitter. A number of
conservative blogs have since taken the photo down. Some have corrected
their posts. Others say the circulation of the picture was a left-wing
conspiracy to discredit the event. However, many of them are still
claiming that at least a million people attended the march. Nate Silver
estimates about 70,000 protesters showed up.

It isn't the first failed attempt by the protesters to inflate the size
of the event. On Saturday, organizer Matt Kibbe announced on stage that
ABC News had estimated a crowd of 1 to 1.5 million. ABC News had
reported no such thing.

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BREAKING - Witness in DUMMMMB ASS passport case shot in head
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=273405

Is that Surrrprising? metinks NOT!
cuhulin

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On Sep 15, 5:41 am, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:

Two Million American US Citizens on the Streets
of Washington, DC =Photos=Reality=Proof=
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109844
Real News Coverage of a Human Event
http://www.foxnews.com/search-result...ng-points-9-14....
Not a Government Media Black-Out

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...photo-false_n_...
Tea Party protesters trying to tout the size of their march on
Washington last weekend have been passing around a photo of a packed
National Mall. But the picture is years old.

Politifact asked Pete Piringer, public affairs officer for the D.C. Fire
and Emergency Department, if the rally was big enough to fill that
space. Piringer said no -- and moreover, the picture can't be from 2009.

- "It was an impressive crowd," he said. But after marching down
- Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol the crowd "only filled the
Capitol
- grounds, maybe up to Third Street," he said.

Another BIG Government Liberal Media LIE
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109776

Dave - Photo Evidence shows the Crowd
going from the Capital down to 14th St.
Obama-Bots© Caught in an 11 Block Lie.


- Yet the photo showed the crowd sprawling far beyond that to the
- Washington Monument, which is bordered by 15th and and 17th Streets.
-
- There's another big problem with the photograph: it doesn't include
- the National Museum of the American Indian, a building located at
the
- corner of Fourth St. and Independence Ave. that opened on Sept. 14,
- 2004. (Looking at the photograph, the building should be in the
upper
- right hand corner of the National Mall, next to the Air and Space
- Museum.) That means the picture was taken before the museum opened
- exactly five years ago. So clearly the photo doesn't show the "tea
- party" crowd from the Sept. 12 protest.

Another BIG Government Liberal Media LIE
Signs show Obama-Care© and other 9-12 Issues
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109776
-ex- Joe Wilson "You Lie" Posters
That's Proof of the Real Time and Date 9-12-09
Obama-Bots© Caught in One More Lie.

- "I've seen bigger crowds at Montreal Expos games, but I still
wouldn't
- fake a photo just to justify your predictions of millions descending
on
- Washington," said one gleeful Democratic media strategist. "This is
- grade-A stupid and just plays into the argument that these were
- astroturf protests to begin with. They've always brought the noise,
but
- the question that was supposed to be answered this weekend was,
could
- they bring the numbers? In that respect this was an unmitigated
disaster."

Calling you fellow Americans 'astroturf' and saying
that they DO NOT COUNT That's Liberal-Fascism.
Another BIG Government Liberal Media LIE
AMERICANS THE OBAMA-REGIME© -says-
YOUR OPINION DON'T COUNT

The photo had been circulated on blogs and Twitter. A number of
conservative blogs have since taken the photo down. Some have corrected
their posts. Others say the circulation of the picture was a left-wing
conspiracy to discredit the event. However, many of them are still
claiming that at least a million people attended the march. Nate Silver
estimates about 70,000 protesters showed up.

The 9-12 Project "We The People" News
-versus- The Liberal Media Black-Out
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c176001d36b981

- It isn't the first failed attempt by the protesters to inflate the
size
- of the event. On Saturday, organizer Matt Kibbe announced on stage
that
- ABC News had estimated a crowd of 1 to 1.5 million.
- ABC News had reported no such thing.

Yeah ABC News Black-Out the 9-12 Project
"We The People" Rally coverage.
PROOF of the Liberal Media Black-Out
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c176001d36b981

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On Sep 15, 9:24*am, Drifter wrote:
- (cross-posting-crap-cut).
-
- Dave, your spot on. Okie Joe said in an email,
- it looked to be, maybe 20 to 25K.

The 9-12 Project "We The People" News
-versus- The Liberal Media Lies
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1ad122b2084fce

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DUMMMMMBER Than DUMMMMMMMB DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMB ASS Birth Certificate Found
Among Original 1964 Divorce Papers? Mombassa,Kenya.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=273412

I saw that article at www.libertypost.org abouts two - tree hours
ago.I told doggy to go ahead on and post it while I get back to workin
in my back yard.HUMPH! some doggy she is!
cuhulin