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Health Care is not constitutionally based

On Oct 30, 11:47*pm, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

Conclusion : Obama-Care© is Liberal-Fascism ~ RHF
*.

I believe that's why he got elected. *The People wanted control back
from the corporatistas.

And instead they got a communist jack boot on their neck.

Health Care is not constitutionally based

On Oct 31, 10:42*am, Somebody Somewhere wrote:

Conclusion : Obama-Care© is Liberal-Fascism ~ RHF
*.

I believe that's why he got elected. *The People wanted control back
from the corporatistas.

And instead they got a communist jack boot on their neck.

Well, sure, for a given value of "communist jack boot on their neck":
in this case meaning "a centrist liberal ballet slipper abandoned
somewhere near them".

And BTW: it's "jack-boot". (If you're going to be a proper jack-booted-
thug, you've got to start getting those little things right.)

Health Care is not constitutionally based

Somebody Somewhere wrote:
On Oct 30, 11:47 pm, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

Conclusion : Obama-Care© is Liberal-Fascism ~ RHF
.
I believe that's why he got elected. The People wanted control back
from the corporatistas.

And instead they got a communist jack boot on their neck.

Somebody's a drama queen.

The corporations had a nice run, now it's freedom's turn.

Health Care is not constitutionally based

On Oct 27, 7:29*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...

Editor RadioTalkingPoints wrote:

More or less, a serious illness can drive treatment costs up to the
value of a new car, and not even treat the condition, which is the
point I am driving at. * Common sense tells you that you can't saddle
your government with those kind of expenditures and expect to not have
problems.

Health care was not meant to be mandated by the government, health
care was simply that act of God that is not meant to be regulated by
government. *What's next, we all need cars, we all need homes, we all
need college educations, we all need foreign travel to different
countries to learn how to integrate into the "world community"?

You could say the same about the military.

You have a real insincere quality. *I think of you as a lagging weather
vane.

My personal belief is that health care goes along with that whole life,
liberty and pursuit of happiness thing. *Cars, education, and foreign travel
are perks, not rights. Homes... well, shelter is one of the three basic
needs to preserve life, but people have lived over the centuries in open
caves, straw huts, wooden shacks, frame houses, igloos. People still live in
the three latter, plus the occasional cardboard box or bridge.. Were it up
to me, all vacant buildings in inner cities would be converted to indigent
housing, with a requirement for some form of recompense (community service,
etc.) from those who live there, and a legitimate effort thereby to better
their own lot. But then, I'm not likely to ever have my way.

Yes, exactly Brenda Ann. Lump in health care with that pursuit of
happiness clause. If it makes you happy to have health care then go
out and pursue a job that compensates well enough and pay for it
yourself. Don't take my hard earned money away from me in order to
pay for your gosh darn health care. You go to school and study hard
and you will do well. If a person is developmentally challenged then
no problem, we all chip in and take care of him/her. If the person
****ed off in school and never studied then he gets what he deserves -
no health care.

regards,
NEO

Health Care is not constitutionally based

N9NEO wrote:
On Oct 27, 7:29 am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...

Editor RadioTalkingPoints wrote:
More or less, a serious illness can drive treatment costs up to the
value of a new car, and not even treat the condition, which is the
point I am driving at. Common sense tells you that you can't saddle
your government with those kind of expenditures and expect to not have
problems.
Health care was not meant to be mandated by the government, health
care was simply that act of God that is not meant to be regulated by
government. What's next, we all need cars, we all need homes, we all
need college educations, we all need foreign travel to different
countries to learn how to integrate into the "world community"?
You could say the same about the military.
You have a real insincere quality. I think of you as a lagging weather
vane.
My personal belief is that health care goes along with that whole life,
liberty and pursuit of happiness thing. Cars, education, and foreign travel
are perks, not rights. Homes... well, shelter is one of the three basic
needs to preserve life, but people have lived over the centuries in open
caves, straw huts, wooden shacks, frame houses, igloos. People still live in
the three latter, plus the occasional cardboard box or bridge.. Were it up
to me, all vacant buildings in inner cities would be converted to indigent
housing, with a requirement for some form of recompense (community service,
etc.) from those who live there, and a legitimate effort thereby to better
their own lot. But then, I'm not likely to ever have my way.

Yes, exactly Brenda Ann. Lump in health care with that pursuit of
happiness clause. If it makes you happy to have health care then go
out and pursue a job that compensates well enough and pay for it
yourself. Don't take my hard earned money away from me in order to
pay for your gosh darn health care. You go to school and study hard
and you will do well. If a person is developmentally challenged then
no problem, we all chip in and take care of him/her. If the person
****ed off in school and never studied then he gets what he deserves -
no health care.

That's just plain mean. No wonder this country is over.

Health Care is not constitutionally based

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:59:03 -0700, N9NEO wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:29Â*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...

My personal belief is that health care goes along with that whole life,
liberty and pursuit of happiness thing. Â*Cars, education, and foreign
travel are perks, not rights. Homes... well, shelter is one of the
three basic needs to preserve life, but people have lived over the
centuries in open caves, straw huts, wooden shacks, frame houses,
igloos. People still live in the three latter, plus the occasional
cardboard box or bridge.. Were it up to me, all vacant buildings in
inner cities would be converted to indigent housing, with a requirement
for some form of recompense (community service, etc.) from those who
live there, and a legitimate effort thereby to better their own lot.
But then, I'm not likely to ever have my way.

Yes, exactly Brenda Ann. Lump in health care with that pursuit of
happiness clause. If it makes you happy to have health care then go out
and pursue a job that compensates well enough and pay for it yourself.
Don't take my hard earned money away from me in order to pay for your
gosh darn health care. You go to school and study hard and you will do
well. If a person is developmentally challenged then no problem, we all
chip in and take care of him/her. If the person ****ed off in school
and never studied then he gets what he deserves - no health care.

regards,
NEO

All is good for you until you get cancer and loose your job, house and
insurance. Then you will demand the government owes you something.

Or will you simply pack you grocery cart and leave willingly? I drought
that.

Health Care is not constitutionally based

Health Care is not constitutionally based in USA but iseverywhere else

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:59:03 -0700, N9NEO wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:29Â*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...

My personal belief is that health care goes along with that whole life,
liberty and pursuit of happiness thing. Â*Cars, education, and foreign
travel are perks, not rights. Homes... well, shelter is one of the
three basic needs to preserve life, but people have lived over the
centuries in open caves, straw huts, wooden shacks, frame houses,
igloos. People still live in the three latter, plus the occasional
cardboard box or bridge.. Were it up to me, all vacant buildings in
inner cities would be converted to indigent housing, with a requirement
for some form of recompense (community service, etc.) from those who
live there, and a legitimate effort thereby to better their own lot.
But then, I'm not likely to ever have my way.

Yes, exactly Brenda Ann. Lump in health care with that pursuit of
happiness clause. If it makes you happy to have health care then go out
and pursue a job that compensates well enough and pay for it yourself.
Don't take my hard earned money away from me in order to pay for your
gosh darn health care. You go to school and study hard and you will do
well. If a person is developmentally challenged then no problem, we all
chip in and take care of him/her. If the person ****ed off in school
and never studied then he gets what he deserves - no health care.

regards,
NEO

All is good for you until you get cancer and loose your job, house and
insurance. Then like a hypocrite, you will demand the government owes you
something.

Or will you simply pack you grocery cart and leave willingly? I drought
that.

Health Care is not constitutionally based

On Nov 1, 2:10*pm, Ima wrote:

I drought that.

Sort of a Biblical Flood in reverse, eh?

And three times over, to boot!

On Oct 30, 5:37*pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 30, 5:24*am, dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

Medicare is a Single Payer System that is 'run' by
{but not owned by} the US Federal Government.
+ Side Medicare Pays for the Treatment
- Side Medicare Does Not Own The Means
of Care and Treatment
http://lpa.igc.org/lpv42/lpp42_medicare.html

One 'new' Medical School in each US State
to train "GP" Doctors for Public Health Care
Clinics.

Two 'new' Nursing Schools in each US State
to train "Clinical" Nurses for Public Health Care
Clinics.

One 'new' Public Health Care Clinics in each
US County to serve and practice Preventative
Medicine and keep people 'well' and out of
Hospitals. {Rural Counties First}
*.

- You DO want the Cuban system!

-if- Health Care is a 'basic' Human Right
* * * therefore-it-follows * * * ~ RHF
*.
Job Based and Wage Based Funding for a
Universal Health Care System is a Doomed
and Failed System : IT TAXES DOMESTIC
PRODUCTS {GOODS} AND SERVICES -and-
Lets Imported Products {Goods} and Services
Go Un-Taxed.

A Universal Value-Added-Tax [VAT] that TAXES
both Domestic and Imported Products and Services
Equally is the preferred and better way to Universally
Fund and Pay for a Universal Health Care System
-and- the US Federal Government in general.

REALITY CHECK - Wage and Income Taxes are
dumb, Dumb. DUMB ! for any Country that is a
Net Importer of Products {Goods} and Services
like the USA has become in the 21st Century.

1 - Abolish the US Federal Income Tax for 90%
of Working Americans with :
2 - Flat Value-Added-Tax [VAT] on all Products
{Goods} and Services for everyone making less
than $250K per Year {10%~15%}
2 - Flat Income Tax that is equal to the Value-
Added-Tax [VAT] on everyone making above
$250K per Year *{10%~15%}
3 - Double Flat Income Tax that is Double the
Value-Added-Tax [VAT] on everyone making
above $2.5 Million per Year *{20%~30%}
4 - Triple Flat Income Tax that is Triple the
Value-Added-Tax [VAT] on everyone making
above $25 Million per Year *{30%~45%}
5 - Four-Times Flat Income Tax that is 4X the
Value-Added-Tax [VAT] on everyone making
above $250 Million per Year *{40%~60%}

NOTE - All those who try to tell you that a simple
Flat Value-Added-Tax [VAT] System will do are
Lying to you and are trying to SCAM you.

Again -if- Health Care is a 'basic' Human Right :
Then it must be Universally Funded where all
'basically' Pay Equally for It; plus 'some' Pay
More Accordingly To Their Means. ~ RHF

=PS= Obama-Care© is Fundamentally Flawed
because it is Fund By Taxing Incomes and Wages.
*.

Warning Your Private Medical Insurance Premiums
Could Triple Under Obama-Care© -source- WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...177212064.html
* It's Only 'Fair' cause someone has to Pay
for the Health Care of the Working Poor
* It's Only 'Fair' cause someone has to Pay
for the Health Care of the Unemployed
* It's Only 'Fair' cause someone has to Pay
for the Health Care of the Illegal Aliens
* Tripling your Private Medical Insurance Premiums
now that's 'Change' you can feel in your Wallet.
WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2372687/posts
WAY TO GO NANCY PELOSI and
the Democrat Controlled US House !
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=82071
WAY TO GO Harry Reid and the
Democrat Controlled US Senate !
http://www.heartland.org/full/26263/...evelation.html