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Can't get much on Shortwave.
On Dec 29, 10:09*am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote: Ric Trexell wrote: I only have a portable shortwave radio (Grundig Yacht Boy 400) that I have had for about 15 years. (It replaced a Grundig 2000 which was a real nice radio in its day.) *When I first got it there was stuff on there not only in the bands but in between. *There were about 10 places to hear the BBC and VOA. *Now I can tune the radio all night and maybe pick up a few Christian broadcasts and one or two Spanish stations. *I usually just end up listening to the AM and FM stations. *Even Hams are sort of rare. *If this keeps up, in a year or two there won't be anything on SW. *Or is there something wrong with my radio? *Ric in Wisconsin. No, there are several things that have happened. One is that shortwave radio signals bounce off the top of the athmosphere (the ionosphere). That's why you can hear them being too far away for ground wave signals (the ones that travel along the surface of the earth). The number one thing that controls the ionosphere is the sun. When there is sunlight, the ionosphere bounces higher frequency radio signals, which is why some bands work better during the day and others at night. The second thing is the number of sunspots. The more sunspots the more the ionosphere is "charged". Sunspots follow an eleven year cycle, 15 years ago we were just ending a peak. Now we are at the bottom of a cycle. This bottom is rare, there have been so many months with no sunspots and so little recovery that it may be the worst cycle since people have been keeping track (1700's). Things are so bad that many people are predicting another "little ice age" (look it up). So radio propigation (the spreading of signals) is much less than it was 15 years ago, and the frequencies that spread are much lower. The next problem is noise. I live in a medium sized city (Jerusalem). All around me are computers, wireless networks, telephones, etc. This puts me in a cloud of electrical noise that covers over radio signals. 4 mHz and below is unusable to me. That's how I tell if an (infrequent) power outage is just my building, or the entire neighborhood. If I can receive the BBC on 1323kHz (AM broadcast band) from Cyprus with a portable radio, the outage is more than just right around me. If you have a radio tuned to it an on when the power is restored, you can hear the devices all starting up. Things have also changed with shortwave broadcasting. Between the internet, satellite delivery of broadcast material, and paid subscriptions (NPR pays the BBC to give you BBC news) stations are abandoning North America. Signals are still out there, but in a lot of cases you are not getting them beamed to you directly, you are hearing a signal aimed at someone else. These signals are much weaker and you may need a better radio, a better antenna or more patience to receive them. Since the end of the cold war, political broadcasting almost stopped. Radio Moscow, Radio Habana (Cuba), and the soviet satellites dropped or reduced their programing. The US policial stations (VOA, Radio Marti, Radio Liberty, etc) scaled back their programming or left the air entirely. In that area things are changing. China (the PRC), Russia (now a rising world power trying to fill the vacuum), and so on are hitting the shortwaves big. However they are not going after you, although programs aimed at the developed countries are broadcast, but they deliver over the internet too.. The reality of the situation is that no matter how what people can use to get their information, nothing is as hard to stop, or as cheap to receive with no infrastructure than shortwave boradcasting. I'll bet as I write this, (Dec 29, 2009) there are a lot of people in Iran who wished they had shortwave radios. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel *N3OWJ/4X1GM New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
On Dec 29, 9:03*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Dec 29, 5:25*pm, SC Dxing wrote: LOL!!! Yea, the days when the Soviets jammed anything aimed toward them. Good memories in a weird way. The Cubans still jam today, especially against spanish programs from the states like Radio Marti and WRMI aimed toward Cuba. That swoosh sound is how the Cubans jam those today. Tune your radio from 9700 to 9955mhz and you'll probably hear at least one Cuban jamming signal. The Chinese use something called Firedrake where they will jam signals they don't like with a constant stream of Chinese ethnic music. You don't hear it much in the states but from what I understand, it's big in the Far East. I think North and South Korea still play a jamming game against each from time to time. Cheers. I hear Firedrake a lot daytimes here in California, terrifically annoying when it covers signals on a dozen different freqs. *I was just noticing, even with the A and K indices at rock bottom tonight, the bands are unpleasantly quiet. *Sad. Bruce That would be correct. I didn't know what it was I was hearing till Ace told me about it. I did a little research on Firedrake - pretty interesting. |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
IanT wrote:
wrote in message ... Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Things have also changed with shortwave broadcasting. Between the internet, satellite delivery of broadcast material, and paid subscriptions (NPR pays the BBC to give you BBC news) stations are abandoning North America. Actually, Bill and Melinda Gates; and Medtronic; pay PRI to distribute the BBC World Service in N. Am. I listen at vpr.org Much nicer than all that swishy shortwave. A lot of amateurs don't own a microphone, and use digital modes to talk around the world on less power than a TV set. You'll need something more stable than a Yacht Boy to decode that. You're completely wrong. The amount of people using QRP and CW is nowhere near those using SSB. No one uses AM apart from on 160m, the rest is SSB. You can use programs with a PC soundcard to decode data modes - even CW which isn't used much now. The requirement to get a full Class A licence in the UK and other countries does away with the need to do a morse test. Shame it wasn't sooner as I had to learn it. There is also DRM about on SW. Completely wrong? Really? QRP is 5 Watts. A typical TV uses at least 40 Watts. Which is what I use to work the world with QPSK31. There are radios that live entirely inside a PC, except for the front end/PA box, and they are among the best in the world. |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
bpnjensen wrote:
I hear Firedrake a lot daytimes here in California, terrifically annoying when it covers signals on a dozen different freqs. I was just noticing, even with the A and K indices at rock bottom tonight, the bands are unpleasantly quiet. Sad. Bruce Something big is just around the corner. We had a bunch of sunspots a few days ago. http://solarcycle24.com/ |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
On 12/29/09 16:36 , SX-25 wrote:
Ric... I'm in Wisconsin too (near the U.P.) and having a ball with shortwave. Don't listen to the baloney that the "golden days of shortwave are gone." Several shortwave stations have went on the air this past year and numerous are expanding their coverage. There is still a lot there but you'll need more than a telescopic whip to do it. Telescopic whips NEVER were much of a performer. Alligator clip a longwire...any length more than 20 feet and see what you get. Everybody seems to have bought into the "if it's digital it is an outstandinga piece of gear" crap. A lot of digital SW receivers are just as deaf as their earlier ancestors which needed more than a bicycle spoke as an antenna. You need to capture RF with something more than a whip. Mr. Mendleson's explanation was the most accurate. We're in a period of horrific sunspot inactivity and all the bands are dead. As for hams, there's plenty of action from 3500 to 4000 kc with the 3500-3600 loaded every night with CW. By the way, I can decode digital modes with my lowly little Grundig Yacht Boy 400PE although the audio is, well, like most things of the cell phone era are on music and voice; so I use old stuff. Good luck and...enjoy... WPE9GHF I spend my getaway time in the North Woods, about 45 minutes south of Rhinelander. I've gotten some pretty decent catches with my Grunding Sat 650 Professional. Not the tightest IF in the world, but tremendous audio. And out in the middle of the woods the noise floor is astonishingly low, so there are some opportunities for deep DX you don't find down here in the big city. The bands aren't as full as they were when WNYW was pounding the ether. But there's still plenty out there to hunt down and savor. Some pretty intense political discussions, too. A unique perspective on the World stage. |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
On Dec 30, 5:27*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: I hear Firedrake a lot daytimes here in California, terrifically annoying when it covers signals on a dozen different freqs. *I was just noticing, even with the A and K indices at rock bottom tonight, the bands are unpleasantly quiet. *Sad. Bruce Something big is just around the corner. *We had a bunch of sunspots a few days ago. http://solarcycle24.com/ Indeed, as of this morning, I am already hearing an uptick in stations coming through. Thanks for the link! |
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Just for fun I tried how many countries I can catch during just one day (Well not the whole day...hour or two in the morning and in the evening). I used Sony 7600GR radio with 20 feet of wire attached to whip antenna. Here are results:
1. USA 2. Russia 3. Germany 4. Ukraine 5. Vatican 6. Great Britain 7. Cuba 8. Austria 9. North Korea 10. China 11. Albania 12. India 13. Croatia 14. Philippines 15. Mariana Islands 16. Marocco 17. Lithuania 18. Japan 19. New Zealand 20. Portugal 21. Belgium 22. Sri Lanka 23. Romania 24. Turkey 25. France 26. Tadjikistan 27. Armenia 28. Djibouti 29. Botswana 30. Sao Tome & Pricipe 31. Zambia 32. Kuwait 33. Sweden 34. Slovakia 35. Czech republic 36. Iran 37. Poland 38. Belarus 39. Cyprus 40. Rwanda 41. Thailand 42. Bulgaria 43. Egypt 44. Spain 45. Greece 46. Saudi Arabia 47. Syria 48. Gabon 49. Vietnam 50. Norway 51. Netherlands 52. Estonia 53. Canada 54. Australia |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
But there's still plenty out there to hunt down and savor.
Some pretty intense political discussions, too. A unique perspective on the World stage. Amen, brother! Never quite understood why guys who frequent a particular newsgroup topic are so down on it. Curiously it is this way on so many RADIO related newsgroups. Put a posting on one that stated, "I really like ___." There's always Eeyores out there to moan a response like, "What d'ya wanna like THAT for?" Good grief. There's lots of new shortwave to be heard and expanded coverage of existing stations. If you don't believe it visit any of the shortwave club websites. But you got to get an antenna up and not rely on the crap performance of the Chinese-made toys that they've given us to emulate receivers. True, some stations are no longer there but others have taken their places. Just because we are brainwashed and weary from the mind-numbing domestic propaganda that The Economy Is Everything Nothing Else Matters---not EVERYWHERE in the world is this mantra chanted. There are still places that believe in sharing things for the sake of cultural enjoyment; and presenting news with truth. These places will long believe in the good will of worldwide coverage direct to a receiver as we once did when people used to huddle behind the Iron curtain to hear Radio Free Europe on shortwave. WPE9GHF |
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
Bravo Sami!
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Can't get much on Shortwave.
SX-25 wrote:
Amen, brother! Never quite understood why guys who frequent a particular newsgroup topic are so down on it. Just because HFBC is a shadow of its former self doesn't mean "shortwave" in general sucks. Utilities monitoring is what separates the men from the leetle gurls. Where's Roy? |
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