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Stevie Nichts wrote:

So you blame Bill Clinton for the mess the country is in today?
Go on, do go on.


Well, to the extent that the Glass-Stegal Act was repealed on his watch,
yes.

However, I would respectfully suggest that you do not overlook the fact
that George W. had EIGHT years to do something about it -- and did NOTHING.

In any event, partisanship has nothing to do with it. Corporatocracy has
EVERYTHING to do with it.

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Editor RadioTalkingPoints wrote:

Competition solves problems, and now we have choice too? No more
unions getting a monopoly (even though it with campaign funds, never
really occured to me, Rush has said it before, but the way he
explained it today, it just sunk in there?) Nice job today Rush, I
think Rush is getting better! Genius improving Genius? INCREDIBLE!
Thank you GOD!


This will further reduce the credibility of the mass media and increase
cynicism government. Corporations are not persons. They are
malignant entities. They are Cylons.
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Stevie Nichts wrote:


So you blame Bill Clinton for the mess the country is in today?
Go on, do go on.


Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan, H.W., Clinton, W. have all been disasters
of one kind of another. Clinton was a DLC Democrat, which is the same
as a Republican.
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Joe from Kokomo wrote:


OK, the end of America as we know it. A BIG win for the Corporatocracy.

Want to know why you should worry about the Corporatocracy? Read
"Hoodwinked" by John Perkins, also the author of "Confessions of an
Economic Hit Man".


Ya'll are just now figuring this out? The SCOTUS just codified what's
already happening.
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On Jan 22, 8:39*am, dave wrote:
Stevie Nichts wrote:

So you blame Bill Clinton for the mess the country is in today?
Go on, do go on.


Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan, H.W., Clinton, W. have all been disasters
of one kind of another. *Clinton was a DLC Democrat, which is the same
as a Republican.


ø ROTFLMAO
The worst presidents of the past 100 years
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
FDR
Woodrow Wilson

In one year, Obama is the worst of them all.

––**––
Political correctness is destroying Europe.

America will be the next down the PC tube
greased by academic idiots like Scott Erb,
Noam Chumpsky, and Ward Churchill, and
Slick Willy & Hilly, Algore & Pelosi, and
Barak Hussein Muhammad Obama, too.


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Political correctness is destroying Europe.


But they have universal coverage and 5 week vacations...
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On 1/22/10 01:57 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Jan 21, 5:10 pm, Editor RadioTalkingPoints
wrote:
On Jan 22, 1:02 am, Stevie wrote:





http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/...upreme_court_c...


The Supreme Court has ruled that corporations may spend freely
to support or oppose candidates for president and Congress,
easing decades-old limits on their participation in federal
campaigns.


By a 5-4 vote, the court on Thursday overturned a 20-year-old
ruling that said corporations can be prohibited from using money
from their general treasuries to pay for campaign ads. The
decision, which almost certainly will also allow labor unions to
participate more freely in campaigns, threatens similar limits
imposed by 24 states.


The justices also struck down part of the landmark McCain-
Feingold campaign finance bill that barred union- and corporate-
paid issue ads in the closing days of election campaigns.
----
Here's a suggestion for Congress: instead of unconstitutional
restrictions on free speech, how about legislating 100%
transparency for all campaign contributions?


Well, it is about time, a big thumbs up to the Supreme Court, THANK
YOU!

If Congress were doing their job regulating commerce and currency
issues, we would not need unions? All this money spent on science,
and they can't advise business, but somehow they can mandate things?
Unions are the birth place of political corruption, the embryonic
chamber of destruction when left to their own devices?

Competition solves problems, and now we have choice too? No more
unions getting a monopoly (even though it with campaign funds, never
really occured to me, Rush has said it before, but the way he
explained it today, it just sunk in there?) Nice job today Rush, I
think Rush is getting better! Genius improving Genius? INCREDIBLE!
Thank you GOD!

Thank YOU mmmmmm mmm mmmmm Rush Hudson Limbaugh mmmm mmmm mmmmmmm


Well, whatever else they've done - they have handed the elections and
thus, the lawmaking machinery, to the wealthiest corporations in
America. Extrapolate from that what you will.

Bruce Jensen




That may not be the case. Scott's campaign in Massachussetts was
funded primarily with small donations from individuals. Small
donations being $5, $10 and others less than $100. His war chest
went from from the low 6 figures to mid 7 figures literally
overnight after a single appearance on TV, all from small donations
of less than $100 from individuals, and mushroomed from there.

There is no doubt that large donations are solicited and accepted
from corporate entities, but there is now no denying that a
successful campaign can be waged without them.

The real question should be, given that this law has been on the
books for 60 years, and McCain-Feingold has been on the books since
2003. Why did the court that refused to consider this matter when
McCain-Feingold was enacted, choose to take this decision now?



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On Jan 22, 4:12*am, Stevie Nichts wrote:
On Jan 22, 2:57*am, bpnjensen wrote:

Well, whatever else they've done - they have handed the elections and
thus, the lawmaking machinery, to the wealthiest corporations in
America. *


First, "the wealthiest corporations" include unions,
environmentalists,
and other left-wing special interests, and there's no point in
pretending otherwise.

Second, money never left politics -- McCain-Feingold spawned
any number of workarounds, and special interests continued to
spend their money to campaign for, or against, their candidates.
Why do you think so many 501 and 527 groups sprang up in
its wake?


On the first point, wrong - corporate coffers are hundreds of times
larger than those of unions and environmental groups. There simply is
no comparison.

Secondly, a workaround is not in the same league as a complete green
light.
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On Jan 22, 7:32*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
jls wrote:
*It was never in the contemplation of the Founding Fathers or the
drafters of the post-bellum amendments to endow corporations with the
personalities of human beings.


The foolish five in Scotus just legislated from the bench.


"Foolish"? Nah, they knew EXACTLY what they were doing. I'd more go with
"sinister" or "corrupt".


I agree, James. I'll call them the five foul fiends.
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