wrote:

ø ROTFLMAO
The worst presidents of the past 100 years
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
FDR
Woodrow Wilson

IMHO, you are a real simpleton because you just happened to "overlook"
G.W. Bush as one of the worst presidents.

Want proof? It is generally accepted (even by Obama) that people were
NOT voting -for- Obama; rather that they were voting AGAINST Bush -- and
Obama won by a landslide. Now try again, and see if that tells you
anything about W. Bwahahahahahah

In one year, Obama is the worst of them all.

Again, you seem to overlook a simple fact: Obama INHERITED not just one
but TWO expensive so-called wars with no exit strategy and INHERITED a
major Depression -- that started on Bush's watch.

Rather than picking on Obama, please realize that even if McCain won, we
would still be in exactly the same fix, maybe even worse, due to
"Quitter" Palin the Brain. No one, repeat, NO ONE, could clean up in
only one year as big of a mess as Bush left.

"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...
wrote:

ø ROTFLMAO
The worst presidents of the past 100 years
Carter
Clinton
Kennedy
FDR
Woodrow Wilson

IMHO, you are a real simpleton because you just happened to "overlook"
G.W. Bush as one of the worst presidents.

Want proof? It is generally accepted (even by Obama) that people were NOT
voting -for- Obama; rather that they were voting AGAINST Bush -- and Obama
won by a landslide. Now try again, and see if that tells you anything
about W. Bwahahahahahah

There might have been some of the votes that were anti-Bush votes, but you
must admit that Obama was very popular. To say that it was, to a large
extent, a vote for Obama was a vote against Bush is lessening Obama's real
popularity in the election. Its similar to the Dems that voted for Reagan.

In one year, Obama is the worst of them all.

Again, you seem to overlook a simple fact: Obama INHERITED not just one
but TWO expensive so-called wars with no exit strategy and INHERITED a
major Depression -- that started on Bush's watch.

Bush inherited a military that had been downsized ... the military had to be
spooled up because of the war ... remember all the complaints against Bush's
not worrying about the troops ... hummers were not properly armored etc ...
remember Rumsfeld said you go to war with what you have and not what you
wished you had.

You also must remember that Bush can only spend the money that is oked by
Congress. The economic downturned started in the last year of the Bush
administration ... Congress was taken over by the Dem in two years before
Bush's term was up. At that time the economy was purring along with an
unemployment rate of about 4.6%. True Obama has been in office only one
year, but the two previous years there was a Democratic Congress ... are
they responsible for any of the economic downturn?

Rather than picking on Obama, please realize that even if McCain won, we
would still be in exactly the same fix, maybe even worse, due to "Quitter"
Palin the Brain. No one, repeat, NO ONE, could clean up in only one year
as big of a mess as Bush left.

This is an assumption; there is no way of knowing what the outcome would
have been if McCain/Palin would have been elected ... we do know that a
whole year wouldn't have been wasted trying to fool with the US healthcare
system ... there probably wouldn't have been a cap n trade bill ... there
wouldn't have been a stimulus (pork) package of this magnitude either.

On Jan 22, 2:57�pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

IMHO, you are a real simpleton because you just happened to "overlook"
G.W. Bush as one of the worst presidents.

WTF is with you liberals that you blithely insult anyone
who disagrees with you? You kids are seriously whacked.

On Jan 22, 2:57�pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

IMHO, you are a real simpleton because you just happened to "overlook"
G.W. Bush as one of the worst presidents.

Stevie Nichts wrote:

WTF is with you liberals that you blithely insult anyone
who disagrees with you? You kids are seriously whacked.

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie, you seriously disappoint me.

I list ONE person that I think should be added to the list of bad
presidents and I'm "seriously whacked"?

The OP listed FIVE people on his bad president list and apparently you
think that's just fine and that he is a fine fellow. And yes, I truly
and legitimately feel the OP is being naive at best or a simpleton at
worst for not saving a spot on his list for W.

How hypocritical of you...

On Jan 22, 9:30*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On Jan 22, 2:57 pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

IMHO, you are a real simpleton because you just happened to "overlook"
G.W. Bush as one of the worst presidents.
Stevie Nichts wrote:
WTF is with you liberals that you blithely insult anyone
who disagrees with you? You kids are seriously whacked.

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie, you seriously disappoint me.

I list ONE person that I think should be added to the list of bad
presidents and I'm "seriously whacked"?

Uh, no, Joe, Joe, Joe. You're seriously whacked because
you seem incapable of expressing a thought without
taking on a gratuitous insult.

On Jan 22, 9:30 pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On Jan 22, 2:57 pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
IMHO, you are a real simpleton because you just happened to "overlook"
G.W. Bush as one of the worst presidents.
Stevie Nichts wrote:
WTF is with you liberals that you blithely insult anyone
who disagrees with you? You kids are seriously whacked.
Stevie, Stevie, Stevie, you seriously disappoint me.

I list ONE person that I think should be added to the list of bad
presidents and I'm "seriously whacked"?

Stevie Nichts wrote:

Uh, no, Joe, Joe, Joe. You're seriously whacked because
you seem incapable of expressing a thought without
taking on a gratuitous insult.

Hey, every boy needs a hobby...

....and you don't seem to be doing too badly in the insult department
yourself. ;-)

But it's not about me. Why don't you try addressing the original
contention of G.W. Bush belonging on the list of worst presidents?

On Jan 23, 2:42*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

I list ONE person that I think should be added to the list of bad
presidents and I'm "seriously whacked"?
Stevie Nichts wrote:
Uh, no, Joe, Joe, Joe. You're seriously whacked because
you seem incapable of expressing a thought without
taking on a gratuitous insult.

Hey, every boy needs a hobby...

...and you don't seem to be doing too badly in the insult department
yourself. * ;-)

I only return what's dished out. If you don't like
it, well...

But it's not about me. Why don't you try addressing the original
contention of G.W. Bush belonging on the list of worst presidents?

Okay: I don't agree. Hope that helps.

On Jan 22, 2:57*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Again, you seem to overlook a simple fact: Obama INHERITED not just one
but TWO expensive so-called wars with no exit strategy

And yet, Obama assured us that he *had* an exit strategy
for Iraq -- and don't you remember him telling you that
Afghanistan was the important war? Sure you do!.

and INHERITED a
major Depression -- that started on Bush's watch.

Say, when did the Democrats take over Congress?
Oh, right: 2006. Would you care to revise and extend
your remarks? And what's this about a "depression"?
Not even Krugman goes that far. Go on, do go on.

On Jan 22, 2:57 pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Again, you seem to overlook a simple fact: Obama INHERITED not just one
but TWO expensive so-called wars with no exit strategy

Stevie Nichts wrote:

And yet, Obama assured us that he *had* an exit strategy
for Iraq -- and don't you remember him telling you that
Afghanistan was the important war? Sure you do!.

Hey Stevie...
Are ya sittin' down? Are ya ready for this?

I agree with you; we are on the same side of the fence on this one.

Obama was just telling the people what they wanted to hear -- and they
-desperately- want to hear that we are going to get out of those two
fiasco sink hole 'wars'. A politician that tells the people what they
want to hear -- how quaint! I'm sure no Republican politician ever did that.

But let's look a little deeper.

Poppy (Bush Sr.), in his book, stated that he did not invade Iraq
because "there was no exit strategy".

W painted us in a corner in both places -- we are screwed if we
stay...and we are screwed if we leave. Why? Because there is NO EXIT
STRATEGY. Too bad junior didn't listen to Poppy. And no easy solution
for Obama, McCain or anyone else.

So, Obama said it, people are hoping he's right...but only time will tell.

and INHERITED a
major Depression -- that started on Bush's watch.

Say, when did the Democrats take over Congress?
Oh, right: 2006. Would you care to revise and extend
your remarks? And what's this about a "depression"?
Not even Krugman goes that far. Go on, do go on.

It DID start on Bush's watch as stated above, pegged at either 4Q '07 or
1 Q '08 by nothing less than the very right wing Wall Street Journal.

As to a "depression", it could be semantics... but it IS the worst
economic upset since 1929.

You have to realize that the gubermint fudges the figures; for example,
once your unemployment benefits run out, the gubermint takes you OFF the
list of the unemployed -- even though you still ARE unemployed.

inflation...the gubermint jockeys those numbers around too, by
either continuously changing the "market basket" of goods they use, or
just plain ignoring costs of education, medical care and energy.

Believe it or not, many do call this a Depression. Your mileage may vary.

"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...

On Jan 22, 2:57 pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Again, you seem to overlook a simple fact: Obama INHERITED not just one
but TWO expensive so-called wars with no exit strategy

Stevie Nichts wrote:

And yet, Obama assured us that he *had* an exit strategy
for Iraq -- and don't you remember him telling you that
Afghanistan was the important war? Sure you do!.

Hey Stevie...
Are ya sittin' down? Are ya ready for this?

I agree with you; we are on the same side of the fence on this one.

Obama was just telling the people what they wanted to hear -- and
they -desperately- want to hear that we are going to get out of those two
fiasco sink hole 'wars'. A politician that tells the people what they want
to hear -- how quaint! I'm sure no Republican politician ever did that.

But let's look a little deeper.

Poppy (Bush Sr.), in his book, stated that he did not invade Iraq because
"there was no exit strategy".

W painted us in a corner in both places -- we are screwed if we stay...and
we are screwed if we leave. Why? Because there is NO EXIT STRATEGY. Too
bad junior didn't listen to Poppy. And no easy solution for Obama, McCain
or anyone else.

So Muslim jihadists had been attacking the US at least since the taking of
hostages in Iran ... bombing of Khobar towers in Saudi Arabia, bombing two
US embassies in Africa, Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon, World Trade
Center I bombing and then flying planes into the WTC to name a few attacks
on the US. Also keep in mind that Saddam had not complied with the
agreement for 12 years to account for his WMD. What would be your next move
.... to keep talking ... the UN had done this for 12 years ... we got the
food for oil scam from the UN.

So, Obama said it, people are hoping he's right...but only time will tell.

I give Obama credit for going after Muslim jihadists and his stepping up the
use of military drones to attack Muslim jihadists around the world. I don't
support his handling of the enemy combatants.

and INHERITED a
major Depression -- that started on Bush's watch.

Say, when did the Democrats take over Congress?
Oh, right: 2006. Would you care to revise and extend
your remarks? And what's this about a "depression"?
Not even Krugman goes that far. Go on, do go on.

It DID start on Bush's watch as stated above, pegged at either 4Q '07 or 1
Q '08 by nothing less than the very right wing Wall Street Journal.

Keeping in mind that Congress was held by the Democrats as the US economy
started south ... Congress controls the money and legislation. 4Q '07 or
1st Q '08 there was a Democratic Congress ... what did they do?
Unemployment was about 4.6% at that time.

As to a "depression", it could be semantics... but it IS the worst
economic upset since 1929.

You have to realize that the gubermint fudges the figures; for example,
once your unemployment benefits run out, the gubermint takes you OFF the
list of the unemployed -- even though you still ARE unemployed.

inflation...the gubermint jockeys those numbers around too, by either
continuously changing the "market basket" of goods they use, or just plain
ignoring costs of education, medical care and energy.

Believe it or not, many do call this a Depression. Your mileage may vary.