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Default Old "Boat Anchor" tube receivers vs. Solid State receivers?

Don't let the aging capacitors and tube fears deter you from considering one
of the better pieces made by
National, Hammarlund, Hallicrafters or Collins. Aligned and maintained they
will outpace anything new that
has come along in the last 30 years. The dynamic range is superb and makes
the comparison with new stuff
like comparing the audio of the old well-built Western Electric telephones
with the raucous crappy audio that is found on cell phones.

Stability? Most of the better receivers from that era pose no NOTICEABLE
drift. Nit-picking absurd specifications like saying a new rig is better
than an older one because it only has 10 Hz drift is nonsense. Even on CW or
SSB I doubt most listeners can even detect 100 cycles of instability.

Replacing capacitors is not rocket science. You remove one that says "10 uF"
and you replace it with a new one that says "10 uF." Duh.

Tubes are still plentiful and with careful shopping (not the price gougers
on scum-Bay) you can buy NOS or used-but-verified good inexpensively. I have
restored lots of these receivers and even the worse cases never needed more
than 1 or two tubes.





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Clive wrote:
Don't let the aging capacitors and tube fears deter you from considering
one of the better pieces made by
National, Hammarlund, Hallicrafters or Collins. Aligned and maintained
they will outpace anything new that
has come along in the last 30 years.


No.
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I have a Hallicrafters S-38EB radio.I bought it for about four dollars
about fifteen something years ago at a Goodwill store.
The radio does work and it is in very nice physical and cosmetic
condition.It is a little dusty right now, just like most thingys in my
house.I am not Mr.Clean.The dust helps protect it, you seeeeee,,,,,,,

http://www.shopgoodwill.com

http://www.devilfinder.com
Hallicrafters S-38EB Radios
cuhulin

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I have a Hallicrafters S-38EB radio.I bought it for about four dollars
about fifteen something years ago at a Goodwill store.
The radio does work and it is in very nice physical and cosmetic
condition.It is a little dusty right now, just like most thingys in my
house.I am not Mr.Clean.The dust helps protect it, you seeeeee,,,,,,,

http://www.shopgoodwill.com

http://www.devilfinder.com
Hallicrafters S-38EB Radios
cuhulin


I have a stereo receiver made by Hallicrafters. Has AM/FM/Shortwave AND
a phono preamp.
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Bob Dobbs wrote:
Clive wrote:
Even on CW or
SSB I doubt most listeners can even detect 100 cycles of instability.


I can definitely tell when some station is ten or more kcs off where I'm tuned,
and go to the RIT automatically. If they continue to drift, I might chase them
awhile, but usually move on, suggesting they sober up and quit leaning on the
VFO knob.

My receiver is stable to less than a twentieth of a cycle over several months.
(Using WWV as a reference)

100 Hz is a noticeable change in pitch. A 50 Hz step makes listening to
music on SSB very difficult. I do my major DXing through a 250 Hz
filter, so if you drift you go bye-bye.


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On Mar 8, 4:32*am, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
Clive wrote:
Even on CW or
SSB I doubt most listeners can even detect 100 cycles of instability.


I can definitely tell when some station is ten or more kcs off where I'm tuned,
and go to the RIT automatically. If they continue to drift, I might chase them
awhile, but usually move on, suggesting they sober up and quit leaning on the
VFO knob.


My receiver is stable to less than a twentieth of a cycle over several months.
(Using WWV as a reference)


100 Hz is a noticeable change in pitch. *A 50 Hz step makes listening to
music on SSB very difficult. *I do my major DXing through a 250 Hz
filter, so if you drift you go bye-bye.


No kidding. I find even 10 Hz offset uncomfortable to listen to in
music.
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On Mar 8, 10:16*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 8, 4:32*am, dave wrote:





Bob Dobbs wrote:
Clive wrote:
Even on CW or
SSB I doubt most listeners can even detect 100 cycles of instability..


I can definitely tell when some station is ten or more kcs off where I'm tuned,
and go to the RIT automatically. If they continue to drift, I might chase them
awhile, but usually move on, suggesting they sober up and quit leaning on the
VFO knob.


My receiver is stable to less than a twentieth of a cycle over several months.
(Using WWV as a reference)


100 Hz is a noticeable change in pitch. *A 50 Hz step makes listening to
music on SSB very difficult. *I do my major DXing through a 250 Hz
filter, so if you drift you go bye-bye.


No kidding. *I find even 10 Hz offset uncomfortable to listen to in
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That depends on the music!
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On Mar 8, 1:26*pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 10:16*am, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 8, 4:32*am, dave wrote:


Bob Dobbs wrote:
Clive wrote:
Even on CW or
SSB I doubt most listeners can even detect 100 cycles of instability.


I can definitely tell when some station is ten or more kcs off where I'm tuned,
and go to the RIT automatically. If they continue to drift, I might chase them
awhile, but usually move on, suggesting they sober up and quit leaning on the
VFO knob.


My receiver is stable to less than a twentieth of a cycle over several months.
(Using WWV as a reference)


100 Hz is a noticeable change in pitch. *A 50 Hz step makes listening to
music on SSB very difficult. *I do my major DXing through a 250 Hz
filter, so if you drift you go bye-bye.


No kidding. *I find even 10 Hz offset uncomfortable to listen to in
music.- Hide quoted text -


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True, true - I suppose some might even be improved by adjustments of
this type...
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On Mar 8, 12:18*pm, BDK wrote:

My NRD-515 tunes in 100 HZ steps and SSB would be really annoying if it
didn't have the (modified) delta tune for pitch control. 10HZ is fine,
but 1HZ, is better.


If you have perfect pitch, it is essential! :-D

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