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D. Peter Maus wrote:
There is no Progressive format. There is Progressive CONTENT. But Not a Progressive format. http://www.clearchannel.com/Radio/Pr...sReleaseID=825 http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3428 KPTP KPOJ KTLK are 3 that I listen to on a daily basis. |
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At Air America bankruptcy auction, private info of listeners forsale
On Mar 30, 1:19*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
* *There is no Progressive format. There is Progressive CONTENT. But Not a Progressive format. * *Progressive content in the US has existed since the US. What set Air America apart from the current, previous, and future content, is that they put politics before the sound business model. It's been demonstrated multiple times that progressive content may exist in a profitable business model. Air America's undoing is that they did not establish a working business model before they opened the doors. Had they done THAT, they would be in business, today. * *Several things they did that were their undoing, of which the most significant: They did not build their network based on a stable of broadcasters. Of their prime players, only Randi Rhodes was a broadcaster. And she was the only one who had made a commitment to Radio as a career. Al Franken, the anchor of the network, went on to say...on the air, no less...repeatedly that he had only signed a short term contract, and did not know how long he would be remaining in Radio. * *Radio audiences are based on longevity, and loyalty. Radio viablity is based in the ability of advertisers to be found to support the operation. That support requires a solid listener base to attract advertisers. And Franken made no secret that he was counting the days. A listener base will not form around a host who will not be there at the end of a short term contract. An advertiser base will not form without a listener base, nor a solid and stable operation. Franken was the Big Fish at AAR. He set a tone. He established a foundation. And his repeated comments about the temporary nature of his presence there prevented the formation of both listener and advertiser commitment at the outset. It also prevented his stablemates from making a commitment, as well. And Air America was doomed before it launched, as a result. * *By comparison, Rush, Hannity, Beck and their contemporaries are broadcasters first. They've made a commitment to both the medium and the listener. They understand that Radio IS after all a business. And they operate their shows as a business: Providing content FOR SALE. Advertisers can sign on with some confidence that there will be at least an attempt at stability. And though the content can be as raving and pedantic as AAR's, the business model is solid. * *It's also easier to sell Conservative Radio, because of the nature of Radio. But that's not to say that Progressive Radio can't be sold. It can. It's just not as easy. * *By contrast, NPR, and its similars, also have a working business model. *They, too, provide content for sale. The difference is that NPR and its similars provide content for sale to local stations, and the stations raise funds to pay for it by asking for donations from their listener. Further operating funds are provided by corporate grants and donations, and grants from public foundations. But the business model is still sound. And the business model was in place BEFORE the launch of the content. * *Air America simply didn't do that. * *Progressive content has been around for centuries. It can, it does, and it will survive. Because it was, is, and will be, content offered FOR SALE. Air America forgot that simple element. And failed. Conservative Talk Radio is operated as RADIO: as a business first. It's content provided by broadcasters, who know and understand the Business of Radio, for sale. Air America's founders were not broadcasters. Air America's support staff and manglement were not broadcasters. Air America's talent were mostly not broadcasters. And without that understanding about how broadcasting works, they failed before they launched. * *The failure of Air America was the failure of Air America's business model. Run by broadcasters, as a business first, there may have been a different outcome.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I really like this description. It is probably applicable to far more formnats than just political radio, or radio in general for that matter. Bruce |
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At Air America bankruptcy auction, private info of listeners forsale
On Mar 30, 1:19*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 3/29/10 20:59 , MACK DADDY wrote: On Mar 29, 12:37 pm, DEFCON *wrote: On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, *wrote: The Progressive Talk format continues to do OK. "Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist tyranny? They don't! * Air America never was a very good operation Maybe ACORN should have run it. The Progressive format lives on regardless of Air America! * *There is no Progressive format. There is Progressive CONTENT. But Not a Progressive format. * *Progressive content in the US has existed since the US. What set Air America apart from the current, previous, and future content, is that they put politics before the sound business model. It's been demonstrated multiple times that progressive content may exist in a profitable business model. Air America's undoing is that they did not establish a working business model before they opened the doors. Had they done THAT, they would be in business, today. * *Several things they did that were their undoing, of which the most significant: They did not build their network based on a stable of broadcasters. Of their prime players, only Randi Rhodes was a broadcaster. And she was the only one who had made a commitment to Radio as a career. Al Franken, the anchor of the network, went on to say...on the air, no less...repeatedly that he had only signed a short term contract, and did not know how long he would be remaining in Radio. * *Radio audiences are based on longevity, and loyalty. Radio viablity is based in the ability of advertisers to be found to support the operation. That support requires a solid listener base to attract advertisers. And Franken made no secret that he was counting the days. A listener base will not form around a host who will not be there at the end of a short term contract. An advertiser base will not form without a listener base, nor a solid and stable operation. Franken was the Big Fish at AAR. He set a tone. He established a foundation. And his repeated comments about the temporary nature of his presence there prevented the formation of both listener and advertiser commitment at the outset. It also prevented his stablemates from making a commitment, as well. And Air America was doomed before it launched, as a result. * *By comparison, Rush, Hannity, Beck and their contemporaries are broadcasters first. They've made a commitment to both the medium and the listener. They understand that Radio IS after all a business. And they operate their shows as a business: Providing content FOR SALE. Advertisers can sign on with some confidence that there will be at least an attempt at stability. And though the content can be as raving and pedantic as AAR's, the business model is solid. * *It's also easier to sell Conservative Radio, because of the nature of Radio. But that's not to say that Progressive Radio can't be sold. It can. It's just not as easy. * *By contrast, NPR, and its similars, also have a working business model. *They, too, provide content for sale. The difference is that NPR and its similars provide content for sale to local stations, and the stations raise funds to pay for it by asking for donations from their listener. Further operating funds are provided by corporate grants and donations, and grants from public foundations. But the business model is still sound. And the business model was in place BEFORE the launch of the content. * *Air America simply didn't do that. * *Progressive content has been around for centuries. It can, it does, and it will survive. Because it was, is, and will be, content offered FOR SALE. Air America forgot that simple element. And failed. Conservative Talk Radio is operated as RADIO: as a business first. It's content provided by broadcasters, who know and understand the Business of Radio, for sale. Air America's founders were not broadcasters. Air America's support staff and manglement were not broadcasters. Air America's talent were mostly not broadcasters. And without that understanding about how broadcasting works, they failed before they launched. * *The failure of Air America was the failure of Air America's business model. Run by broadcasters, as a business first, there may have been a different outcome.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow! You really don't get it, do you? Most listeners could not possibly give a rats ass about business models or any of your other corporate talk. What listeners want is something interesting. Something they can relate too. And you conveniently left out some facts, as you conservatives are want to do. Mike Malloy was doing progressive talk long before AAR. Ed Shultz was a sportscaster before he became a political talker. |
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At Air America bankruptcy auction, private info of listeners forsale
On Mar 30, 1:19*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 3/29/10 20:59 , MACK DADDY wrote: On Mar 29, 12:37 pm, DEFCON *wrote: On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, *wrote: The Progressive Talk format continues to do OK. "Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist tyranny? They don't! * Air America never was a very good operation Maybe ACORN should have run it. The Progressive format lives on regardless of Air America! * *There is no Progressive format. There is Progressive CONTENT. But Not a Progressive format. * *Progressive content in the US has existed since the US. What set Air America apart from the current, previous, and future content, is that they put politics before the sound business model. It's been demonstrated multiple times that progressive content may exist in a profitable business model. Air America's undoing is that they did not establish a working business model before they opened the doors. Had they done THAT, they would be in business, today. * *Several things they did that were their undoing, of which the most significant: They did not build their network based on a stable of broadcasters. Of their prime players, only Randi Rhodes was a broadcaster. And she was the only one who had made a commitment to Radio as a career. Al Franken, the anchor of the network, went on to say...on the air, no less...repeatedly that he had only signed a short term contract, and did not know how long he would be remaining in Radio. * *Radio audiences are based on longevity, and loyalty. Radio viablity is based in the ability of advertisers to be found to support the operation. That support requires a solid listener base to attract advertisers. And Franken made no secret that he was counting the days. A listener base will not form around a host who will not be there at the end of a short term contract. An advertiser base will not form without a listener base, nor a solid and stable operation. Franken was the Big Fish at AAR. He set a tone. He established a foundation. And his repeated comments about the temporary nature of his presence there prevented the formation of both listener and advertiser commitment at the outset. It also prevented his stablemates from making a commitment, as well. And Air America was doomed before it launched, as a result. * *By comparison, Rush, Hannity, Beck and their contemporaries are broadcasters first. They've made a commitment to both the medium and the listener. They understand that Radio IS after all a business. And they operate their shows as a business: Providing content FOR SALE. Advertisers can sign on with some confidence that there will be at least an attempt at stability. And though the content can be as raving and pedantic as AAR's, the business model is solid. * *It's also easier to sell Conservative Radio, because of the nature of Radio. But that's not to say that Progressive Radio can't be sold. It can. It's just not as easy. * *By contrast, NPR, and its similars, also have a working business model. *They, too, provide content for sale. The difference is that NPR and its similars provide content for sale to local stations, and the stations raise funds to pay for it by asking for donations from their listener. Further operating funds are provided by corporate grants and donations, and grants from public foundations. But the business model is still sound. And the business model was in place BEFORE the launch of the content. * *Air America simply didn't do that. * *Progressive content has been around for centuries. It can, it does, and it will survive. Because it was, is, and will be, content offered FOR SALE. Air America forgot that simple element. And failed. Conservative Talk Radio is operated as RADIO: as a business first. It's content provided by broadcasters, who know and understand the Business of Radio, for sale. Air America's founders were not broadcasters. Air America's support staff and manglement were not broadcasters. Air America's talent were mostly not broadcasters. And without that understanding about how broadcasting works, they failed before they launched. * *The failure of Air America was the failure of Air America's business model. Run by broadcasters, as a business first, there may have been a different outcome.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is called Progressive Format BECAUSE it features Progressive Content! |
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At Air America bankruptcy auction, private info of listeners forsale
On Mar 30, 3:19*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
* *There is no Progressive format. There is Progressive CONTENT. But Not a Progressive format. Progressive content in the US has existed since the US. ROTFLMAO!!! Yet another propaganda lie from a Leftist=Socialist=Communist="Progresssive". |
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On Mar 29, 10:16*am, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: Although the grotesquely misnamed liberal, lefty and progressive radio program Air America is off the air, its lies, its perverted mission live on Thus proving that the "left" simply doesn't need the overblown, emotional laden, sham moralistic crap the rightwing does Your "side" had NO historical basis for "feeling good" about policies, initiatives, programs in all your miserable history You NEED Faux to make you poor assholes feel good about yourselves We don't Yes you do http://www.globalmuseumoncommunism.org |
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At Air America bankruptcy auction, private info of listeners forsale
On Mar 29, 4:13Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
On Mar 29, 10:16Â*am, wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: Although the grotesquely misnamed liberal, lefty and progressive radio program Air America is off the air, its lies, its perverted mission live on Thus proving that the "left" simply doesn't need the overblown, emotional laden, sham moralistic crap the rightwing does Your "side" had NO historical basis for "feeling good" about policies, initiatives, programs in all your miserable history You NEED Faux to make you poor assholes feel good about yourselves We don't Yes you dohttp://www.globalmuseumoncommunism.org Long live Communism! Hooray! I whistle the Internationale while I throw darts at the Constitution! What fun! |
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At Air America bankruptcy auction, private info of listenersfor sale
bpnjensen wrote:
...while I throw darts at the Constitution! Why not? George W. Bush said "It's just a piece of paper". Heck of a job, Georgie! |
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