Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On Mar 29, 6:50 pm, dave wrote:
I'm a vegetarian.

Priest wrote:

I became a vegetarian 10 years ago for ethical reasons. My decision
did/does have side effects though: lost 50 lbs., energy level
quadrupled, concentration and memory dramatically improved, taste buds
rejuvenated, diet became much more varied,

*much more* varied, just eating veggies and -eliminating- meat, fish and
fowl? Sorry, but that seems contradictory.

meals and cooking became fun,

more fun? Why is it "more fun" to cook one thing than another? Cooking
is cooking, parts is parts.

interesting and a time of reflective appreciation. And the spiritual
benefits realized by refusing to participate in and subsidize the
cruel and inhumane meat industry...

What about that cruel and inhumane treatment of vegetables? You are
killing them (a living thing), boiling them, eating them.

Plants have feelings too, ya know. How would -you- like to be mowed down
in the prime of life?

If you wish to be a vegetarian, so be it. But meat is just another food
group along with fish, fowl and vegetables. Humans have been eating meat
for millenia, since the first cave man speared a woolly mammoth. Meat
has stood the human race in good stead for tens of thousands of years.
(Everything in moderation, of course. I'm not recommending you slam down
two pounds of bacon in a sitting).

It is wasteful to grow meat for food. Just "calories in" vs "calories
out" math shows how wasteful. Plus there is a lot of environmental
damage involved. The quickest way to reduce greenhouse gasses would be
for people to reduce their meat consumption. It could have a dramatic
effect in a very short time.

But we lack the courage, as always.

On Mar 30, 6:00*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:50 pm, dave wrote:
I'm a vegetarian.
Priest wrote:
I became a vegetarian 10 years ago for ethical reasons. My decision
did/does have side effects though: *lost 50 lbs., energy level
quadrupled, concentration and memory dramatically improved, taste
buds rejuvenated, diet became much more varied,

*much more* varied, just eating veggies and -eliminating- meat, fish and
fowl? Sorry, but that seems contradictory.

meals and cooking became fun,

more fun? Why is it "more fun" to cook one thing than another? Cooking
is cooking, parts is parts.

interesting and a time of reflective appreciation. And the spiritual
benefits realized by refusing to participate in and subsidize the
cruel and inhumane meat industry...

What about that cruel and inhumane treatment of vegetables? You are
killing them (a living thing), boiling them, eating them.

Plants have feelings too, ya know. How would -you- like to be mowed down
in the prime of life?

If you wish to be a vegetarian, so be it. But meat is just another food
group along with fish, fowl and vegetables. Humans have been eating meat
for millenia, *since the first cave man speared a woolly mammoth. Meat
has stood the human race in good stead for tens of thousands of years.
(Everything in moderation, of course. I'm not recommending you slam down
two pounds of bacon in a sitting).

The main problem is not eating meat, although it is part of the
ethical dilemma - the bigger problem is that you cannot feed a planet
of 7 billion meat eaters and still be humane, just and not place a
hideous burden on the environment.

Bruce

On Mar 30, 8:00*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:50 pm, dave wrote:
I'm a vegetarian.
Priest wrote:
I became a vegetarian 10 years ago for ethical reasons. My decision
did/does have side effects though: *lost 50 lbs., energy level
quadrupled, concentration and memory dramatically improved, taste
buds rejuvenated, diet became much more varied,

*much more* varied, just eating veggies and -eliminating- meat, fish and
fowl? Sorry, but that seems contradictory.

meals and cooking became fun,

more fun? Why is it "more fun" to cook one thing than another? Cooking
is cooking, parts is parts.

interesting and a time of reflective appreciation. And the spiritual
benefits realized by refusing to participate in and subsidize the
cruel and inhumane meat industry...

What about that cruel and inhumane treatment of vegetables? You are
killing them (a living thing), boiling them, eating them.

Plants have feelings too, ya know. How would -you- like to be mowed down
in the prime of life?

If you wish to be a vegetarian, so be it. But meat is just another food
group along with fish, fowl and vegetables. Humans have been eating meat
for millenia, *since the first cave man speared a woolly mammoth. Meat
has stood the human race in good stead for tens of thousands of years.
(Everything in moderation, of course. I'm not recommending you slam down
two pounds of bacon in a sitting).

Breaking down my comments by sentence and critiquing each...lmao...you
really do have too much free time on your hands don't you. I'd point
out the absurdity of each of your oh so clever rejoinders but, unlike
you, I have too little time on my hands. But thank you for proving
that meat eating definately impairs the brain.

And please do enjoy your toxic dead flesh cocktail of growth hormones,
antibiotics, feces, blood and puss. Yummy!!!

On Mar 30, 11:50*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
Joe from Kokomo wrote:

If you wish to be a vegetarian, so be it. But meat is just another food
group along with fish, fowl and vegetables. Humans have been eating meat
for millenia, *since the first cave man speared a woolly mammoth. Meat
has stood the human race in good stead for tens of thousands of years.
(Everything in moderation, of course. I'm not recommending you slam down
two pounds of bacon in a sitting).

Even as being carnivorous got us to the top of the food chain,
it might not sustain but instead be our undoing.

IOW:
Is the human phenomena just a short lived blink in the eons of time?

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

No doubt - as much as the naysayers cry foul, you just *can't* stop
evolution. Even now, Nature is up to her dirty and insidious genetic
tricks...

....as evidenced by many on Usenet ;-D

Bruce

On Mar 29, 10:30*pm, Priest wrote:
On Mar 29, 6:50*pm, dave wrote:

I'm a vegetarian.

I became a vegetarian 10 years ago for ethical reasons. My decision
did/does have side effects though: *lost 50 lbs., energy level
quadrupled, concentration and memory dramatically improved, taste buds
rejuvenated, diet became much more varied, meals and cooking became
fun, interesting and a time of reflective appreciation. And the
spiritual benefits realized by refusing to participate in and
subsidize the cruel and inhumane meat industry have been positively
awe-inspiring and a very special bond with nature and animals emerged
that is beyond description.

Can't help adding that I find it noteworthy that four of the more
intelligent individuals in this group are all vegetarian. Interesting.

Those were my reasons and results exactly - today I am 50, fit, hike
through the mountains, ride my bike daily and making love is
great! :-) Can't vouch for the intelligence part, though - I became
more of a juvenile delinquent ;-)

bpnjensen wrote:

Can't vouch for the intelligence part, though - I became
more of a juvenile delinquent ;-)


Tell me about it.

The last 'all-veggie' picnic up at the Planetarium turned into a
switchblade fight. I'll have a chance to redeem myself tonight. There's
gonna be something called a 'chicken run' up on Thunder Road.




mikey dean II