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Ian Jackson[_2_] April 18th 10 09:16 PM

Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
 
In message
,
bpnjensen writes
On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they
just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku #
to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well.


This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y
SKU: 750254801679

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-(

You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on
the G5! :-)


I have one (Eton G5). Essentially, I agree with those comments. LW
insensitive, and suffers from MW interference. MW is OK. SW not bad from
(say) 4 to 20MHz (not good at all 1.6 to 3MHz, where whip switches in).
FM seems very good (don't have really local stations, so haven't noticed
overload). Where insensitive, external antenna helps, but overloads
easily.
--
Ian

bpnjensen April 18th 10 09:41 PM

Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
 
On Apr 18, 1:16*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message
,
bpnjensen writes





On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they
just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku #
to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well.


This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y
SKU: 750254801679


--


Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-(


You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on
the G5! :-)


I have one (Eton G5). Essentially, I agree with those comments. LW
insensitive, and suffers from MW interference. MW is OK. SW not bad from
(say) 4 to 20MHz (not good at all 1.6 to 3MHz, where whip switches in).
FM seems very good (don't have really local stations, so haven't noticed
overload). Where insensitive, external antenna helps, but overloads
easily.
--
Ian


So, Ian - the whip is not the antenna for 1.6 to 3 MHz? If so, I
assume it relies on the internal ferrite, which would typically be
inadequate...I have an older single-conversion superhet analog radio
where the ferrite works all the way to 6 MHz - to increase
sensitivity, I place a *single* wrap of normal wire around the radio,
connected to my external antennae. That brings up the signals a lot.
More than one wrap of wire and I get images galore...so my experience
matches yours closely.

I think the lesson here is that:

(1) It's hard to get good reception on a portable on the 1.6-3/4 MHz
band; and

(2) you need a rock solid front end to be able to use an antenna for
1.6 to 3/4 MHz and NOT get spurious junk, unless you are far away from
major MW transmitters.

Bruce Jensen

Ian Jackson[_2_] April 18th 10 10:26 PM

Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
 
In message
,
bpnjensen writes
On Apr 18, 1:16*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message
,
bpnjensen writes





On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they
just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku #
to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well.


This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y
SKU: 750254801679


--


Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-(


You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on
the G5! :-)


I have one (Eton G5). Essentially, I agree with those comments. LW
insensitive, and suffers from MW interference. MW is OK. SW not bad from
(say) 4 to 20MHz (not good at all 1.6 to 3MHz, where whip switches in).
FM seems very good (don't have really local stations, so haven't noticed
overload). Where insensitive, external antenna helps, but overloads
easily.
--
Ian


So, Ian - the whip is not the antenna for 1.6 to 3 MHz? If so, I
assume it relies on the internal ferrite, which would typically be
inadequate...I have an older single-conversion superhet analog radio
where the ferrite works all the way to 6 MHz - to increase
sensitivity, I place a *single* wrap of normal wire around the radio,
connected to my external antennae. That brings up the signals a lot.
More than one wrap of wire and I get images galore...so my experience
matches yours closely.

I think the lesson here is that:

(1) It's hard to get good reception on a portable on the 1.6-3/4 MHz
band; and

(2) you need a rock solid front end to be able to use an antenna for
1.6 to 3/4 MHz and NOT get spurious junk, unless you are far away from
major MW transmitters.

Yes. It uses the ferrite rod up to 2.999MHz. At 3MHz, you can hear the
noise increase, but the sensitivity is poor up to at least 4MHz. The
external antenna connection (via 3.5mm audio jack) seems to work on all
frequencies. There is a 10dB attenuate to help with overload (a tuneable
passive preselector would help a lot).

I forgot to mention that it's full of self-generated internal beats
(nothing to do with the incoming signals). A few of them paralysingly
strong, especially when you're using the whip.

All-in-all, it's not too bad a little portable radio, but it certainly
is not a serious communications receiver.
--
Ian


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