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With the support of 70 percent of its citizens, Arizona has ordered
sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens, half a million of whom now reside there. Arizona acted because the U.S. government has abdicated its constitutional duty to protect the states from invasion and refuses to enforce America’s immigration laws. “We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to act,” said Gov. Jan Brewer. “But decades of inaction and misguided policy have created an unacceptable situation.” We have a crisis in Arizona because we have a failed state in Washington. What is the response of Barack Obama, who took an oath to see to it that federal laws are faithfully executed? He is siding with the law-breakers. He is pandering to the ethnic lobbies. He is not berating a Mexican regime that aids and abets this invasion of the country of which he is commander in chief. Instead, he attacks the government of Arizona for trying to fill a gaping hole in law enforcement left by his own dereliction of duty. He has denounced Arizona as “misguided.” He has called on the Justice Department to ensure that Arizona’s sheriffs and police do not violate anyone’s civil rights. But he has said nothing about the rights of the people of Arizona who must deal with the costs of having hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers in their midst. How’s that for Andrew Jackson-style leadership? Obama has done everything but his duty to enforce the law. Undeniably, making it a state as well as a federal crime to be in this country illegally, and requiring police to check the immigration status of anyone they have a “reasonable suspicion” is here illegally, is tough and burdensome. But what choice did Arizona have? The state has a fiscal crisis caused in part by the burden of providing schooling and social welfare for illegals and their families, who consume far more in services than they pay in taxes and who continue to pour in. Even John McCain is now calling for 3,000 troops on the border. Police officers and a prominent rancher have been murdered. There have been kidnappings believed to be tied to the Mexican drug cartels. There are nightly high-speed chases through the barrios where innocent people are constantly at risk. If Arizona does not get control of the border and stop the invasion, U.S. citizens will stop coming to Arizona and will begin to depart, as they are already fleeing California. What we are talking about here is the Balkanization and breakup of a nation into ethnic enclaves. A country that cannot control its borders isn’t really a country anymore, Ronald Reagan reminded us. The tasks that Arizonans are themselves undertaking are ones that belong by right, the Constitution and federal law to the Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and Homeland Security. Arizona has been compelled to assume the feds’ role because the feds won’t do their job. And for that dereliction of duty the buck stops on the desk of the president of the United States. Why is Obama paralyzed? Why does he not enforce the law, even if he dislikes it, by punishing the businessmen who hire illegals and by sending the 12 million to 20 million illegals back home? President Eisenhower did it. Why won’t he? Because he is politically correct. Because he owes a big debt to the Hispanic lobby that helped deliver two-thirds of that vote in 2008. Though most citizens of Hispanic descent in Arizona want the border protected and the laws enforced, the Hispanic lobby demands that the law be changed. Fair enough. But the nation rose up as one to reject the “path-to- citizenship” — i.e., amnesty — that the 2007 plan of George W. Bush, McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama envisioned. Al Sharpton threatens to go to Phoenix and march in the streets against the new Arizona law. Let him go. Let us see how many African-Americans, who are today frozen out of the 8 million jobs held by illegal aliens that might otherwise go to them or their children, will march to defend an invasion for which they are themselves paying the heaviest price. Last year, while Americans were losing a net of 5 million jobs, the U.S. government — Bush and Obama both — issued 1,131,000 green cards to legal immigrants to come and take the jobs that did open up, a flood of immigrants equaled in only four other years in our history. What are we doing to our own people? Whose country is this, anyway? America today has an establishment that, because it does not like the immigration laws, countenances and condones wholesale violation of those laws. Nevertheless, under those laws, the U.S. government is obligated to deport illegal aliens and punish businesses that knowingly hire them. This is not an option. It is an obligation. Can anyone say Barack Obama is meeting that obligation? http://buchanan.org/blog/whose-country-is-this-3955 The Arizona Uproar Listening to the national uproar, you'd be forgiven for thinking that Arizona has marched into the civil rights apocalypse with its new state law cracking down on illegal immigrants. Last Friday, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed SB1070, making it a crime to be in the state illegally and requiring cops, where "reasonable suspicion" exists, to determine a person's legal status. Rev. Al Sharpton is promising to come to Arizona to march, the New York Times says that the state has gone "off the deep end," and the Nazi references are flying. Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony likened SB1070 to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques." Riding the noise for political advantage, President Obama is summoning his Justice Department to look into the matter, saying that the law would "undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans." But 70 percent of Arizona residents support the law, according to Rasmussen. What's going on here? Do we know something the rest of the country doesn't? Actually, we do. Context is everything, and it'd be nice if the national media provided some, rather than simply slamming Arizona as a redneck haven filled with nativists and bubbas with a hankering for racial profiling. An estimated 500,000 illegal aliens live in Arizona, and many are decent folks, to be sure. But the border is still wide open, and many more are coming. Last year in Border Patrol's 262-mile-wide Tucson Sector, agents arrested 241,000 illegal aliens, a drop of more than 130,000 from 2007. It sounds great until you understand that gotaways outnumber arrests by three to one. Does the country realize this, or have the people bought Janet Napolitano's political fairy tale that border security has been "transformed" from where we were in 2007? As Obama lectures Arizona, citizens here await his decision on an urgent request to send three thousand National Guard troops to the border. Senators John McCain and Jon Kyl recently asked for soldiers, as did Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, to bring some security to American citizens being hammered by cross-border smugglers and thugs. Here's an important bit of context: This isn't your father's illegal immigration, when polite farm workers offered to do chores in return for some water and a sandwich as they walked north. Today, the drug cartels have taken over the people-smuggling business. They own the trails into the country and dominate the land, the same way urban gangs control neighborhoods Any group wanting in has to deal with them, and the going rate is $2,500 per person. If you don't have the cash, the cartel coyote will offer to bring you in for free if you carry his dope. As Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever testified to the Senate Homeland Security Committee last week, most of the groups coming up now have a gun behind them. Along the Chiricahua Corridor smuggling route north and east of Douglas, Arizona, residents have been screaming for some time about break-ins, threats, intimidation, vandalism, and home invasions. But the feds did nothing to keep citizens safe. Instead, they talked amnesty. Then the inevitable happened. On March 27, Cochise County rancher Rob Krentz was murdered on his land, presumably by a drug smuggler. The death occurred on a well- known drug trail, and trackers followed the killer's prints back into Mexico. He is still at large. Now, I can't argue with those who say that SB1070 has some provisions that smack of desperation -- such as making it a crime to stop your car to pick up a day laborer or to enter a stopped car to get temporary work. That sounds impossible to enforce. But critics also say that it will have no impact on besieged residents of southern Arizona, and I disagree. It could help. We have a huge problem with crooks coming up from Mexico to our cities and towns, committing crimes, and bolting back south of the border. Not long ago, I wrote a story that backtracked the records of two of these border coyotes and found that between them, they'd been arrested and released by either law enforcement or the courts a total of 35 times. One was let go after a traffic stop, and the other had worked construction in Phoenix for years. If this law had been in effect, the police might've been able to get them off the street before they were able to lead more groups into southern Arizona, break into homes, and frighten citizens. Civil rights? What about the civil right of American citizens to drive up to their homes at night and have some reasonable assurance that no one is inside? On March 31, four hundred people gathered outside the one-room Apache School to tell their elected reps what it's like to live in smuggler- occupied territory. The meeting was held there, in the cold, open air, in part because the nearest place to host a group that size inside was seventy round-trip miles away, and these folks didn't feel comfortable leaving their homes for that length of time. They live by a rule of thumb: If you leave your house empty, it will be occupied by illegals or drug smugglers. We're not talking just about homes five miles from the international line. We're talking about homes up to sixty miles north of the border. Racial profiling doesn't matter much when you're in a fight to preserve your way of life and keep your family and property safe. Let me give you a different perspective on racial profiling. Now, when Border Patrol chases down and arrests illegals south of I-10, everybody says, "Atta boy. Good police work." But if these crossers put a toe north of I-10, they're home free. Except for Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, nobody is looking for them, and if you do, it's racial profiling. The farther you get from the line, the more people want to make this problem about race. It's the ground the left wants to fight on because it's so effective. Political correctness shuts people up and keeps the border open. Arizona has had enough and seen enough. This bill, admittedly flawed, motivated in part by anger and frustration, is an effort to step in and do something about a serious national problem on our southern border that grows more dangerous all the time. But the national media largely ignore it because it offers up the wrong victims and the wrong politics. They don't send reporters out to Arizona get the story, to walk the smuggling trails, to sit with beleaguered Americans at their kitchen tables and understand the torment their lives have become. Instead, they adopt the preening pose of the self-righteous, screaming from a safe distance about the bubbas. All 70 percent of them. It's more fun than context. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...na_uproar.html |
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"Chas. Chan" wrote:
With the support of 70 percent of its citizens, Arizona has ordered sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens, half a million of whom now reside there. Nope. SB 1070 does not address border security at all, nor does it empower local authorities to deport anyone. |
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"Spartakus" wrote in message ... "Chas. Chan" wrote: With the support of 70 percent of its citizens, Arizona has ordered sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens, half a million of whom now reside there. Nope. SB 1070 does not address border security at all, nor does it empower local authorities to deport anyone. .. .. I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. |
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. . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? |
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"Cicero Venatio" wrote in message m... S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? False. You will not be sued for complying with the law. You document your activity as an employer. Get the crooks who exploit the illegals and the illegals will go home. Probably only need a few widely publicized examples and the problem disappears. The "real ID" law was passed and many states have opted out. Libertarians oppose, what in effect, is an internal passport. The lax enforcement against employers during the eight years of the bush,jr administration was a favor to his friends in the SW |
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Cicero Venatio wrote:
S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
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"Kevin Alfred Strom" wrote in message ... Cicero Venatio wrote: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ "...The Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed by the 1943 Magnuson Act, which permitted Chinese nationals already residing in the country to become naturalized citizens. It also allowed a national quota of 105 Chinese immigrants per year, although large scale Chinese immigration did not occur until the passage of the Immigration Act of 1965. Despite the fact that the exclusion act was repealed in 1943, the law in California that Chinese people were not allowed to marry whites was not repealed until 1948...." |
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On Apr 27, 8:46*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote: And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians? |
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bpnjensen wrote:
On Apr 27, 8:46 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians? Yes indeed. And the fact that many treaties were not kept redounds to our shame as a people -- and constitutes a lesson in the corruption of the Washington regime that all peoples should learn. The Republic of Lakotah, which declared its independence from the Evil Empire some years ago, shows that Russell Means and his people are far advanced in their thinking and morality compared to most European-Americans. My hope is that we will catch up soon. http://theamericanmercury.org/2010/0...e-departments/ With all good wishes, Kevin, WB4AIO. -- http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
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Sid9 wrote:
"Cicero Venatio" wrote in message m... S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? False. You will not be sued for complying with the law. -------------- You've never been sued have you? If I knew your real name, where you live, I could show you personally how easy it is to do. Then you'd be "educated" on how the real world works. |
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UK is not a Country.
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:01:00 -0400, "Sid9" puked:
"Spartakus" wrote in message ... "Chas. Chan" wrote: With the support of 70 percent of its citizens, Arizona has ordered sheriffs and police to secure the border and remove illegal aliens, half a million of whom now reside there. Nope. SB 1070 does not address border security at all, nor does it empower local authorities to deport anyone. . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. And especially the people using drugs that bring these people in. They should step up the drug enforcement big time. -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:33:55 -0700, Cicero Venatio
puked: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? Not to mention, you are advised NOT to ask if someone is in the country legally upon hiring them because it could be considered discriminatory. How ****ed up is that? -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:38:23 -0400, "Sid9" puked:
"Cicero Venatio" wrote in message om... S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? False. You will not be sued for complying with the law. What land do you live in? In the US there are professional minorities that make a living doing just that. And to say that you "will not be sued" for anything demonstrates your tenuous grasp of the reality of the legal system. You can be sued for pretty much anything. You document your activity as an employer. Get the crooks who exploit the illegals and the illegals will go home. Probably only need a few widely publicized examples and the problem disappears. The "real ID" law was passed and many states have opted out. Libertarians oppose, what in effect, is an internal passport. The lax enforcement against employers during the eight years of the bush,jr administration was a favor to his friends in the SW -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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"Cicero Venatio" wrote in message m... Sid9 wrote: "Cicero Venatio" wrote in message m... S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? False. You will not be sued for complying with the law. -------------- You've never been sued have you? If I knew your real name, where you live, I could show you personally how easy it is to do. Then you'd be "educated" on how the real world works. .. .. Judges frown on frivolous lawsuits...it might be a costly endeavor. |
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Camels used to be native in America.
So were Horses, untill they got all hunted down and eaten up and then Horses showed up again by the Spaniards. Over seventy five percent (at least seventy six percent) of Arizonans Approve of the new Bill.The ones who don't Approve are those damn Illegal Aliens CRIMMINALS and those damn fed govt CRIMMINALS. Look at how Mexico treats Illegal Aliens. http://www.libertypost.org cuhulin |
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Chas. Chan wrote:
snip Nobody on the TV has interviewed the Border Patrol. I have not seen one second of footage of a Border Patrol/DHS official discussing this crap. There are already plenty of reasons to avoid spending money in Arizona. This is just another one. |
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bpnjensen wrote:
On Apr 27, 8:46 pm, Kevin Alfred wrote: And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians? The "Indians" were invaders from Asia. They killed off the mammoths and tigers. |
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On Apr 28, 7:24*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 27, 8:46 pm, Kevin Alfred wrote: And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians? The "Indians" were invaders from Asia. *They killed off the mammoths and tigers. This is partially debatable, but I won't go into paleobiology and paleoclimatology at this point. They did get here by purely natural means, which allowed not only humans but many other species to advance their ranges. What Nature allows, I don't question. Bruce |
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On Apr 28, 4:23*am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote: bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 27, 8:46 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. You mean like when the Europeans displaced the Indians? Yes indeed. And the fact that many treaties were not kept redounds to our shame as a people -- and constitutes a lesson in the corruption of the Washington regime that all peoples should learn. The Republic of Lakotah, which declared its independence from the Evil Empire some years ago, shows that Russell Means and his people are far advanced in their thinking and morality compared to most European-Americans. My hope is that we will catch up soon. http://theamericanmercury.org/2010/0...-david-hill-bl... With all good wishes, Kevin, WB4AIO. --http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ A good and honest answer. I appreciate this. Bruce |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:34 -0400, "Sid9" puked:
"Cicero Venatio" wrote in message om... Sid9 wrote: "Cicero Venatio" wrote in message m... S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? False. You will not be sued for complying with the law. -------------- You've never been sued have you? If I knew your real name, where you live, I could show you personally how easy it is to do. Then you'd be "educated" on how the real world works. . . Judges frown on frivolous lawsuits...it might be a costly endeavor. Yet every day, courthouses across America are slap-ass loaded with them... -- lab~rat :-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? |
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On 4/28/2010 7:23 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
And the fact that many treaties were not kept redounds to our shame as a people -- and constitutes a lesson in the corruption of the Washington regime that all peoples should learn. Sadly, this is nothing new. The "Lady in Red" said she would blow the whistle on John Dillinger if the government wouldn't deport her back to Romania. Guess who got a free trip to Romania even though she held up her end of the bargain. We lied to the people we were supposed to support for the Bay of Pigs invasion. We screwed the Hmong for their help in the Viet Nam war. We screwed the Kurds TWICE with broken promises. It seems the word of the government isn't worth very much. ....and the beat goes on. |
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Snopes Exposed.I have said before, Sometimes Snopes doesn't get it
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On Apr 27, 11:46*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote: Cicero Venatio wrote: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. *If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. *Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. *Simple solutions are for simpletons. *The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not.. *When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. *Sound unfair, or course it is. *BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? *If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. --http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is that this is a non-White vs White, as is so many other political issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially) left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they founded and built, and will be hunted to extinction by the non-Whites who are just itching to destroy the USA. |
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On Apr 27, 11:46*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote: Cicero Venatio wrote: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. *If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. *Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. *Simple solutions are for simpletons. *The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not.. *When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. *Sound unfair, or course it is. *BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? *If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. --http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is that this is a non-White vs White issue, as are so many other political issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially) left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they founded and built, and will be persecuted to near extinction. |
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"DEFCON 88" wrote in message ... On Apr 27, 11:46 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo- oliver.com wrote: Cicero Venatio wrote: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. --http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is that this is a non-White vs White, as is so many other political issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially) left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they founded and built, and will be hunted to extinction by the non-Whites who are just itching to destroy the USA. .. .. A classic example of fear and paranoia! Because he/she is uneducated and incapable of doing anything useful, he/she fears these illegal immigrant farm workers |
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You gonna get a new free cahhhhhhhhh,,,,,, govmint gonna pay off your
mortgage,,,, you gonna get free health care insurance,,,,, you gonna get this,,,,,, you gonna get that,,,,,,,,, Change baby, Change! The only kind of Change most people are seeing nowadays is one or two cents worth of pocket Change in their pockets, if that! Nowadays, if they see a Penny laying on the sidewalk of a parking lot, they stop and pick it up and put it in their pocket,,,, pocket Change! and govmint will Steal that from them too! cuhulin |
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On Apr 29, 1:34*pm, wrote:
You gonna get a new free cahhhhhhhhh,,,,,, govmint gonna pay off your mortgage,,,, you gonna get free health care insurance,,,,, you gonna get this,,,,,, you gonna get that,,,,,,,,, Change baby, Change! The only kind of Change most people are seeing nowadays is one or two cents worth of pocket Change in their pockets, if that! Nowadays, if they see a Penny laying on the sidewalk of a parking lot, they stop and pick it up and put it in their pocket,,,, pocket Change! and govmint will Steal that from them too! cuhulin (Raising hand) I have a question - whoever said anyone was gonna get free any of these things? I pay close attention, and I don't remember any of that...except from conservatives who CLAIMED somebody said it. I did, however, pay a lot LESS tax last year than before. I was taken aback too, because not only do I deserve to pay more to support the important things provided by government, but if I don't, many things normal Americans take for granted (and things that I personally value) will collapse. Bruce |
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"Who's country is this?' What a dumass question. Our boys are away
fighting for the American way, liberty for all. This country belongs to those who wish to see it prosper and keep it strong. Too bad the government gets in the way at times. If someone comes in through the back door, and tries to destroy my home and any part of my way of life, then it's war. Will the teary eyed ones have any compassion left when everything they've come to believe in or work for has been taken away by groups such as the Muslims or Mexican bloodlines? Not likely but it may already be too late to stop the influx. Has the spirit of 1776, of those willing to fight for their country, long since been washed away in a haze of drugs and untaught history lessons. "Sid9" wrote in message ... "DEFCON 88" wrote in message ... On Apr 27, 11:46 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo- oliver.com wrote: Cicero Venatio wrote: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. --http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is that this is a non-White vs White, as is so many other political issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially) left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they founded and built, and will be hunted to extinction by the non-Whites who are just itching to destroy the USA. . . A classic example of fear and paranoia! Because he/she is uneducated and incapable of doing anything useful, he/she fears these illegal immigrant farm workers |
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Arizona Senate Bill 1070.Utah has a similar Bill in the Works and Texas
is proposing a similar bill too.All Fifty U.S.States need a Bill like that.Against Illegal Aliens.Illegal Aliens are NOT Immigrants. cuhulin |
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The government gets in the way?
The government just saved every American's ass with quick decisive action to prevent another Republican Great Depression. Mexicans are a trivial problem. Scapegoating them for Republican mismanagement, since Reagan, is only a cover-up for the damage they've done to all of us. There's no work here fewer Mexicans are coming in and many are leaving....no big expensive fence needed. .. .. .. "All Yankee" wrote in message ... "Who's country is this?' What a dumass question. Our boys are away fighting for the American way, liberty for all. This country belongs to those who wish to see it prosper and keep it strong. Too bad the government gets in the way at times. If someone comes in through the back door, and tries to destroy my home and any part of my way of life, then it's war. Will the teary eyed ones have any compassion left when everything they've come to believe in or work for has been taken away by groups such as the Muslims or Mexican bloodlines? Not likely but it may already be too late to stop the influx. Has the spirit of 1776, of those willing to fight for their country, long since been washed away in a haze of drugs and untaught history lessons. "Sid9" wrote in message ... "DEFCON 88" wrote in message ... On Apr 27, 11:46 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo- oliver.com wrote: Cicero Venatio wrote: S . . I wonder who in AZ provides employment for a half million people? Throw a few of these employers in jail and their fellow criminal employers will fire all of the half million illegals. ----------- not that easy. If you want a law suit filed against you for racial discrimination by the state or the feds, or you could be sued by Chicanos por la Causa or La Raza for being racist. Also all of these people have documentation, it may be forged documentation, but how can you tell. Simple solutions are for simpletons. The flaw in the e-verify system was there was no picture of the individual in the database, but maybe in the future they will have some sort of system where employers can actually find out if the employee is illegal or not. When the feds bust an employer, they actually have some pictures that go with the social security numbers, something the employer had no access to. Sound unfair, or course it is. BTW, do the feds have a picture of you, "Sid9"? If not an illegal could have a forged a social security card with "Sid9" "555-11-5555" or whatever your number is, and how would the employer tell if it was you or someone else, unless there is a picture to go with it? The answer is to go back to what America had prior to 1965: a national origins based immigration system (wherein immigration from any country was allowed only to the extent of that nationality's percentage of the already existing American population), and a race-based definition of citizenship (see the Naturalization Act of 1790, in force until the 1950s). Under such a system, no complicated set of ID documents would be required -- just a good pair of eyes. Of course, Central Americans of European descent would easily be able to sneak through -- but then, they aren't the ones causing problems, are they? I know that the Arizona (and other) patriots who want to stop the invasion from the south fall all over themselves denying that they have any racial motivation. But if all they really care about is "what's legal," they might as well quit all their fussing and go home and watch "Dancing With the Stars." For "what is legal" can change in a nanosecond -- the moment the criminals in Washington declare their "amnesty," every invader will instantaneously become "legal." And then what will the patriots do? Become honest, and admit that this is a biological issue, of one people displacing another people and taking their territory and resources? I hope so. Without honesty, no solution is possible. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. --http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is that this is a non-White vs White, as is so many other political issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially) left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they founded and built, and will be hunted to extinction by the non-Whites who are just itching to destroy the USA. . . A classic example of fear and paranoia! Because he/she is uneducated and incapable of doing anything useful, he/she fears these illegal immigrant farm workers |
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DEFCON 88 wrote:
Agreed! The non-Whites who are chimping-out over Arizona's law freely admit that their main concern is for their RACE. The unspoken truth is that this is a non-White vs White, as is so many other political issues these days. Non-Whites are not afraid to stand up and organize for their own race. Unless Whites stop being a bunch of grovelling cowards, afraid of being called "racist" by a bunch of (essentially) left-wing Marxist thugs, and start standing up for themselves AS A RACE, Whites will utterly lose the country and civilization that they founded and built, and will be hunted to extinction by the non-Whites who are just itching to destroy the USA. Well, what do you expect? Are you one of those who maintain we did negro slaves a favor by introducing them to our wonderful Western Civilization? Twisted Europeans and their collective megalomania have laid waste to the planet. |
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You gonna get free money,,,, you gonna get free gas,,,,,, you gonna get
a free house,,,,, you gonna get a free wide screen tv set,,,,, you gonna get free chicken mcnuggets,,,,,,, you gonna get free everything you want, baby! http://reason.com/blog/2008/10/31/ob...-free-gas-free You gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get free,,,,,,,, Those STUPID!!! MOFOS ACTUALLY BELIEVE ALL OF THOSE LIES!!! Former KMOX Saint Louis,Missouri Radio talk show host, Jim White ~ YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!!!!!! I used to listen to Jim White every night, from Midnight to 5:00 AM untill he retired. Jim White is Right. cuhulin |
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On Apr 29, 7:13*pm, wrote:
You gonna get free money,,,, you gonna get free gas,,,,,, you gonna get a free house,,,,, you gonna get a free wide screen tv set,,,,, you gonna get free chicken mcnuggets,,,,,,, you gonna get free everything you want, baby!http://reason.com/blog/2008/10/31/ob...-free-gas-free You gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get free,,,,,, you gonna get free,,,,,,,, YO MUHFUGGA, GIBS ME MUH FREE OBAMA MUNNY AN SHEEIT, NOAMSAYN? |
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On Apr 29, 6:42*pm, dave wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote: Well, what do you expect? *Are you one of those who maintain we did negro slaves a favor by introducing them to our wonderful Western Civilization? * Hindsight is 20-20, but we'd be much better off today if we simply left them alone in Africa with flies crawling all over their faces. Unfortunately, now we're stuck with a permanent class of violent-prone parasites and criminals with an average 25 point IQ deficit. Lucky us. |
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If fed govt would just leave us alone, we would all be better off.
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