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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung May 19th 10 02:12 AM

"Enough Money"
 
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."

The key word in this statement, made by President Barack Obama
recently, is "you." There is nothing wrong with my deciding how much
money is enough for me or your deciding how much money is enough for
you, but when politicians think that they should be deciding how much
money is enough for other people, that is starting down a very
slippery slope.

Politicians with the power to determine each citizen's income are no
longer public servants. They are public masters.

[...]

http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...8/enough_money

What page are we on today? http://mises.org/books/TRTS/

dave May 19th 10 01:59 PM

"Enough Money"
 
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."



Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.

Family dynasties are Unamerican.

Growth is another name for tumor.

lab~rat >:-) May 19th 10 03:35 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On Wed, 19 May 2010 04:59:41 -0800, dave puked:

¯baMa¯ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."



Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.

Family dynasties are Unamerican.

Growth is another name for tumor.


So you're going to tell your children to go out in the world and have
a mediocre career because that's the American way? Maybe they'll be
qualified to work for my kids, but I'm thinking probably not...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

DEFCON 88 May 19th 10 07:30 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 19, 8:59Â*am, dave wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."


.. . . . . . . . . . . . .


Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.


Nonsense. Restricting people's freedom to acquire as much wealth as
they want (unless obtained through criminal activity) is immoral and
Unamerican, and reeks of the typical jealousy of success exhibited by
the Communist liberal/"progressive" left.



Family dynasties are Unamerican.


You mean like the Kennedys?


DEFCON 88 May 19th 10 07:39 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 19, 9:47*am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
dave wrote:

[...]



[...]



Escape from the current oligarchy can come only from a new elite
with different values -- and high biological quality.


With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/



What should those different values and higher biological qualities
be?




D. Peter Maus[_2_] May 19th 10 07:49 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On 5/19/10 13:30 , DEFCON 88 wrote:
On May 19, 8:59 am, wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."


. . . . . . . . . . . . .


Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.


Nonsense. Restricting people's freedom to acquire as much wealth as
they want (unless obtained through criminal activity) is immoral and
Unamerican, and reeks of the typical jealousy of success exhibited by
the Communist liberal/"progressive" left.



Family dynasties are Unamerican.


You mean like the Kennedys?


The Rockefellers?

dave May 19th 10 08:15 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
dave wrote:
[...]

Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral



As a poor person financially who totally opposes what the billionaire
media and corporations are doing to our world and who has sacrificed a
great deal for taking that stand, I certainly can't be accused of being
a shill for them.

But doesn't your moral statement above require a commissar or committee
to decide what my -- and my family's -- "needs" are?

I do not wish to live under such rulers, who would be no better than the
current oligarchs.

And, in fact, it is quite natural for superior men and women to create
and amass more than they can currently use. This is the basis for
leisure time, and without leisure time, and the freedom it brings from
Man's constant scrambling for the necessities, there would be no
philosophy -- or art -- or science.



and Unamerican.

[...]


What a bizarre claim. Washington and Madison and Jefferson wouldn't, I
think, have concurred.

However, we may have some points of agreement.


People can make all the money they want, as long as they pay their fair
share of taxes. The wealthy pay way less, as a percentage of their
income, as any other demographic. Going after the Swiss banks is a good
start.

http://tompaine.com/Archive/scontent/7082.html

dave May 19th 10 08:17 PM

"Enough Money"
 
lab~rat :-) wrote:?? On Wed, 19 May 2010 04:59:41 -0800, dave puked:?? ?? ¯baMa¯ Tse Dung wrote:?? One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop?? and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough?? money."???? Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.???? Family dynasties are Unamerican.???? Growth is another name for tumor.?? ?? So you're going to tell your children to go out in the world and have?? a mediocre career because that's the American way? Maybe they'll be?? qualified to work for my kids, but I'm thinking probably not...?? --?? lab~rat :-)?? Do you want polite or do you want sincere?????I tell my children to learn to survive with very little. Amassing ??wealth is no career.??

dave May 19th 10 08:22 PM

"Enough Money"OR how much *LOVE* is enough
 
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
dave wrote:
[...]
Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral



Did you mention that to Hollywood and the Rock stars, you might mention
it to Clinton and (BIG NEW HOUSE)Al Gore too.


George Soros
Bill Gates
Warren Bufett

SO.... if "you" can determine how much is enough, then you Naturally
will also determine how much *LOVE* is enough and take the love from
someone with too much and redistribute it to someone with too little?

Materialism is death

lab~rat >:-) May 19th 10 08:30 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On Wed, 19 May 2010 12:17:42 -0700, dave puked:

lab~rat :-) wrote:?? On Wed, 19 May 2010 04:59:41 -0800, dave puked:?? ?? øbaMaø Tse Dung wrote:?? One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop?? and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough?? money."???? Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.???? Family dynasties are Unamerican.???? Growth is another name for tumor.?? ?? So you're going to tell your children to go out in the world and have?? a mediocre career because that's the American way? Maybe they'll be?? qualified to work for my kids, but I'm thinking probably not...?? --?? lab~rat :-)?? Do you want polite or do you want sincere?????I tell my children to learn to survive with very little. Amassing ??wealth is no career.??


Maybe they can teach you how to use a puter...
--
lab~rat :-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[email protected] May 19th 10 09:12 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Tookin mee ah leetl cig anna ah coffee bareaque frum woikin onnas mah
howis.(House, iffin y'all cats dont's nose wuts dat T'IS)

LQQKA hyr, dee reeson most Wealthy peepuls issa Wealthy issa bercos dey
izza Smart anna oilso Intelligent anna oilso ahgin, dey know how to
Invest their Money.They Earned their Money and their Wealth and they
have the Right to do as they wish with their Money and Wealth.

Pssssst, I am looking for a rich old woman.If you know of a rich old
widow woman, send her over here to me!
cuhulin


bpnjensen May 19th 10 09:31 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 19, 11:49Â*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 5/19/10 13:30 , DEFCON 88 wrote:





On May 19, 8:59 am, Â*wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."


. . . . . . . . . . . . .


Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.


Nonsense. Restricting people's freedom to acquire as much wealth as
they want (unless obtained through criminal activity) is immoral and
Unamerican, and reeks of the typical jealousy of success exhibited by
the Communist liberal/"progressive" left.


Family dynasties are Unamerican.


You mean like the Kennedys?


Â* Â*The Rockefellers?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What I think he means is, that American Dynasties based on wealth come
ominously close to European Dynasties (or any other dynasties in
liberty-regressive nations) based on wealth, or power, or inherited
status. Ultimately, at their core, is the concept that one family
group amasses and maintains potentially undue power over others
through whatever means is at their disposal (in this case money and
political connection), and this is not at all what the Forefathers had
in mind in their Cradle of Liberty.

Having said that, I do have a soft spot for the Rockefellers - were it
not for very altruistic latter generations of that family, we would
have neither Acadia National Park nor the Jackson Hole district of
Grand Teton National Park - both near and dear to my heart.

Bruce Jensen

[email protected] May 19th 10 11:55 PM

"Enough Money"
 
The City of Angels (Los Angeles,California, there is another Los Angeles
in South America too) used to have a fine Trolley Car system many years
ago.Along came that damn Rockefella SOB and he had those Trolley Car
Rails ripped from the streets of the City of Angels.

I have a soft back book here which I bought at the Books A Million Book
store on I-55 North Frontage Road a bunch of years ago.That Book is all
about the American Trolley Cars with a lot of photos too.Some of those
old American built Trolley Cars were sold to South America.They, or some
of them, are still running in South America.

To HELL with those damn Rockefellars!!!
cuhulin


[email protected] May 20th 10 04:13 AM

"Enough Money"
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
FEMA employee Fired

FIRED!, and that is GOOD.
cuhulin


bpnjensen May 20th 10 04:34 AM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 19, 3:55*pm, wrote:

To HELL with those damn Rockefellars!!!
cuhulin


OK, so you DON'T like National Parks ;-)

[email protected] May 20th 10 03:42 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Lookin lyke it's ahgwyna rain.Ahh reely orts tah mow mah yaryd tudey.Ahh
reckons Ahh weel gits ats its now.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Kevin Costner's Centrifuge Invention

Furr cleanin uppa dat British POLLUTION Crap in the Gulf of Mexico.
cuhulin


dave May 20th 10 07:30 PM

"Enough Money"
 
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On May 19, 8:59 am, dave wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."

. . . . . . . . . . . . .

Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.


Nonsense. Restricting people's freedom to acquire as much wealth as
they want (unless obtained through criminal activity) is immoral and
Unamerican, and reeks of the typical jealousy of success exhibited by
the Communist liberal/"progressive" left.


I proposed no laws restricting anyone's ability to amass a fortune.



Family dynasties are Unamerican.


You mean like the Kennedys?

Exactly. And the Bushes.

[email protected] May 20th 10 08:12 PM

"Enough Money"
 
When I said Smart and Intelligent Wealthy people, that leaves OUT ALL
politicians,,, some of those Hollyweird people too!
Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood are Smart and Intelligent and Wealthy,
so is Sean Connery and a bunch of other people.Sean Connery grew up in a
slum area of Edinburgh,Scotland.There is also an Edinburg,(without the
h) Mississippi.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Edinburg,Mississippi

Now, lets me gits bak tu ahwoikin onna mah howis, soon as Ahh takes
doggy out en teh fryont yahrd furr ah few minits.
cuhulin


ZNUYBV May 20th 10 08:16 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 19, 5:59Â*am, dave wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."


Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.

Family dynasties are Unamerican.

Growth is another name for tumor.


Unlimited wealth is permissible if you are a Democrat. Democrats will
share their wealth with you.

ZNUYBV May 20th 10 08:22 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 19, 5:59Â*am, dave wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."


Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.

Family dynasties are Unamerican.

Growth is another name for tumor.


Obama has the right idea. His half brother lives in a dirt florr hut
with no running water and his Aunt is on welfare in Boston.

Kevin Alfred Strom May 20th 10 09:39 PM

"Enough Money"
 
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On May 19, 9:47 am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
dave wrote:

[...]



[...]


Escape from the current oligarchy can come only from a new elite
with different values -- and high biological quality.


With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/



What should those different values and higher biological qualities
be?






As far as values are concerned: A sense of peoplehood is essential
-- and a sense of peoplehood necessitates race consciousness, since
nations are biological entities, not mental or geographic ones.

With a sense of peoplehood -- of who "we" are -- and the ability to
see that the survival and progress of our people should be our
highest moral values, trumping all others, we have a _chance_ of
survival. Without those values, there is no hope: Healthier peoples
will displace us and swamp us -- physically, culturally, and
genetically.

As for biological quality:

Life, for all living beings, is a struggle for the right to pass our
genes on to future generations.

Some human groups have less frontal lobe capabilities than we do,
but are far more fecund and loyal to their kind on average than we are.

Others have slightly higher IQs than us on average, but less
tendency to produce creative geniuses.

Only time will tell which is the best strategy. There have always
been races and varieties of men (just as there have always been
varieties of birds or wheat or squirrels), for as long as there have
been men on this planet.

As in the days of _homo neanderthalis_ and his competitors -- and as
in the days of the several races of _homo erectus_ -- some of the
branches of humanity will succeed and continue to evolve and branch
yet further... and others will go extinct.

The best strategy for our people being among the former is, I think,
positive eugenics. This does not at all mean a society more coercive
than ours is. It just means rewarding people with high character and
intelligence and creativity for having children -- and rewarding
those with a lack of those characteristics for not having children.
(This could ultimately lead to a dramatic reduction in societal
coercion, since people of high intelligence and character and
responsibility don't need many laws or policemen or prisons, nor do
they generally want them.)

I believe that the nation that adopts positive eugenics on a large
enough scale will advance and prosper at a rapid and compounding
rate. It could possibly leave the rest of us behind to the same
extent that _erectus_ was left behind once true humans emerged --
and refused to mate with the lower types.


With all good wishes,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Sid9[_2_] May 20th 10 10:00 PM

"Enough Money"
 

"ZNUYBV" wrote in message
...
On May 19, 5:59 am, dave wrote:
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."


Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.

Family dynasties are Unamerican.

Growth is another name for tumor.


Obama has the right idea. His half brother lives in a dirt florr hut
with no running water and his Aunt is on welfare in Boston.

..
..
A stupid diversion from the subject.

Try to concentrate.



dave May 20th 10 11:16 PM

"Enough Money"
 
ZNUYBV wrote:
On May 19, 5:59 am, dave wrote:



Growth is another name for tumor.


Unlimited wealth is permissible if you are a Democrat. Democrats will
share their wealth with you.


I am an NP. Money doesn't really exist. All is phony.

bpnjensen May 20th 10 11:30 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 20, 3:16*pm, dave wrote:
ZNUYBV wrote:
On May 19, 5:59 am, dave wrote:


Growth is another name for tumor.


Unlimited wealth is permissible if you are a Democrat. *Democrats will
share their wealth with you.


I am an NP. *Money doesn't really exist. *All is phony.


A Non-Profit? What a sweet deal! ;-)

Day Brown[_2_] May 21st 10 04:30 AM

"Enough Money"
 
On 05/20/2010 03:39 PM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
The best strategy for our people being among the former is, I think,
positive eugenics. This does not at all mean a society more coercive
than ours is. It just means rewarding people with high character and
intelligence and creativity for having children -- and rewarding those
with a lack of those characteristics for not having children. (This
could ultimately lead to a dramatic reduction in societal coercion,
since people of high intelligence and character and responsibility don't
need many laws or policemen or prisons, nor do they generally want them.)

I believe that the nation that adopts positive eugenics on a large
enough scale will advance and prosper at a rapid and compounding rate.
It could possibly leave the rest of us behind to the same extent that
_erectus_ was left behind once true humans emerged -- and refused to
mate with the lower types.

Aristotle:"Most men are such slaves to passion they'd do better in the
hands of a more rational master". Politics claims, but fails, to produce
that master.

Reading Cosmopolitan and Glamour to see what young women are being told,
I find raps about them giving up on ever meeting "Mr. Wright" and going
to fertility clinics. They wont have the perfect marriage, but are very
happy with the perfect baby.

Upscale white thirty something career women, no longer sexy hotties are
increasingly doing this, and no doubt, raising the first generation of
the Uberwench.

But in the name of equal opportunity, we should subsidize fertility
clinics for poor women and provide DNA analysis. If need be, provide in
vitro so these women, who have repeatedly shown us they can raise kids
on little money, would be far more rewarded for their effort later in
life as successful children will be better able to look after momma.
Even if mom's skin is darker.

There's lotsa stories from the Robber Baron era of successful men who
took very good care of their black nannies later in life. This just
moves that process up 9 months. It'd reduce the cost of premature
infants so much that alone would be justify fertility clinic services.

Make it available to illegal women. the men who think they own these
women will ship them back to the old country ASAP rather than using them
to produce anchor babies.

Orval Fairbairn[_2_] May 21st 10 05:37 AM

"Enough Money"
 
In article ,
"Sid9" wrote:

"ZNUYBV" wrote in message
...
On May 19, 5:59 am, dave wrote:
?baMa? Tse Dung wrote:
One of the many shallow statements that sound good-- if you don't stop
and think about it-- is that "at some point, you have made enough
money."

Amassing wealth beyond your needs is immoral and Unamerican.

Family dynasties are Unamerican.

Growth is another name for tumor.


Obama has the right idea. His half brother lives in a dirt florr hut
with no running water and his Aunt is on welfare in Boston.

.
.
A stupid diversion from the subject.

Try to concentrate.


IIRC, Obama, in his inaugural address, proclaimed, "I am my brother's
keeper."

Yet another dissembling from him.

--
Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

dave May 21st 10 02:17 PM

"Enough Money"
 
bpnjensen wrote:
On May 20, 3:16 pm, wrote:
ZNUYBV wrote:
On May 19, 5:59 am, wrote:


Growth is another name for tumor.


Unlimited wealth is permissible if you are a Democrat. Democrats will
share their wealth with you.


I am an NP. Money doesn't really exist. All is phony.


A Non-Profit? What a sweet deal! ;-)


No party. But I'm going to join the Green Party.

bpnjensen May 21st 10 05:37 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 21, 6:17*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On May 20, 3:16 pm, *wrote:
ZNUYBV wrote:
On May 19, 5:59 am, *wrote:


Growth is another name for tumor.


Unlimited wealth is permissible if you are a Democrat. *Democrats will
share their wealth with you.


I am an NP. *Money doesn't really exist. *All is phony.


A Non-Profit? *What a sweet deal! ;-)


No party. *But I'm going to join the Green Party.


Welcome to the club! :-)

[email protected] May 21st 10 08:35 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Arrah,,,

http://www.devilfinder.com
The Moving Wall Jackson,Mississippi May 2010

Going to call a few of my old buddys and see if they want to go.
I need to buy a film cartridge for my Kodak film camera/picture box!
cuhulin


m II May 23rd 10 05:36 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On 10-05-20 02:39 PM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

As far as values are concerned: A sense of peoplehood is essential --
and a sense of peoplehood necessitates race consciousness, since nations
are biological entities, not mental or geographic ones.



I've noticed the 'biological entity' business earlier. Corporations,
Large organizations and Political parties exhibit the same
characteristic. As in a living body, there is a need for nourishment and
growth. The antibodies are always at work.

Maintaining Income/Money flow replaces food/water. Growth is mandatory.
New cells may be added through procreation or recruitment. Public
relations become the camouflage device of choice and as always, the
inner, not-so-wholesome workings aren't visible to the world at large.
Much like the intestines of a Supermodel.

Survival is at the top of the list. These 'biological' entities will
defend individual 'cells' or 'units' or 'employees' up to a degree. If
the Brain unit realizes that maintaining this defense will cost too
dearly, the member is chewed off and left. A Politician/TV Evangelist
with his leg in a corruption/morality trap is a fine example.

First, the cellular denial stage: "I have done nothing wrong.". Then the
Body attempts defense: "We have to wait for all the facts to be in
before we pass judgment.". Things then rot further and the disreputable
cell is surgically removed and all visible ties severed.

The act of complete remorse, feigned or genuine, may sometimes act as a
healing agent. Exhibiting free flowing tears helps the process.



mike


Day Brown[_2_] May 23rd 10 09:45 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On 05/23/2010 11:36 AM, m II wrote:
On 10-05-20 02:39 PM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

As far as values are concerned: A sense of peoplehood is essential --
and a sense of peoplehood necessitates race consciousness, since nations
are biological entities, not mental or geographic ones.



I've noticed the 'biological entity' business earlier. Corporations,
Large organizations and Political parties exhibit the same
characteristic. As in a living body, there is a need for nourishment and
growth. The antibodies are always at work.

Maintaining Income/Money flow replaces food/water. Growth is mandatory.
New cells may be added through procreation or recruitment. Public
relations become the camouflage device of choice and as always, the
inner, not-so-wholesome workings aren't visible to the world at large.
Much like the intestines of a Supermodel.

Survival is at the top of the list. These 'biological' entities will
defend individual 'cells' or 'units' or 'employees' up to a degree. If
the Brain unit realizes that maintaining this defense will cost too
dearly, the member is chewed off and left. A Politician/TV Evangelist
with his leg in a corruption/morality trap is a fine example.

First, the cellular denial stage: "I have done nothing wrong.". Then the
Body attempts defense: "We have to wait for all the facts to be in
before we pass judgment.". Things then rot further and the disreputable
cell is surgically removed and all visible ties severed.

The act of complete remorse, feigned or genuine, may sometimes act as a
healing agent. Exhibiting free flowing tears helps the process.

Reasonable, and worth thinking about.

But consider the growing power of women. The brave heart, strong right
arm, sword in hand... no longer cuts it. These power structures you
refer to were all established by alpha males. But the threats and
violence they employed to get power dont work so well anymore. They cant
even protect themselves from modern weapons like nukes and WMD, much
less the rest of us.

Their protection services were why we put up with their BS in the first
place. And in contrast to the Semitic claim that they are all the "Sons
of Abraham", now we see upscale thirty something white career women
going to fertility clinics to select from among the most promising Y
chromosomes... to get the perfect baby, and blowing off the idea of ever
having the perfect marriage.

And as the network of fertility clinics expands, the price will fall
down to the point where non-white poor women will take advantage of the
same services. And we all know what Y chromosome lines they will pick.

The whole notion of "race" will become obsolete in a few generations.

[email protected] May 23rd 10 10:34 PM

"Enough Money"
 
It must be Moooooooooondust,,,,,,
It must be Mooooooooooodust,,,,,,

Yeah, that's the ticket, it's Mooooooooooondust.
http://www.nicap.org/moondust.htm
cuhulin, the Moondusty


RHF May 23rd 10 11:04 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On May 23, 3:16*pm, dave wrote:
Day Brown wrote:

The whole notion of "race" will become obsolete in a few generations.


- The human race will be obsolete in a few generations.

Dave in the Race for Humanity : You are Obsolete [.]

-*"Civilization" is a failure.

Dave speaking of "Civilization" being a Failure
You are the 'poster-boy' ~ RHF

dave May 23rd 10 11:16 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Day Brown wrote:


The whole notion of "race" will become obsolete in a few generations.


The human race will be obsolete in a few generations. "Civilization" is
a failure.

[email protected] May 23rd 10 11:51 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Heather, doing the 5:30 PM tv weather news.She said, It is 91 degrees
outside right now, you might want to crank up your airconditioner.
She said, You know what that does to your electric bill!
cuhulin


[email protected] May 24th 10 02:42 AM

"Enough Money"
 
Let a big enough rock out there in Space hit Planet Earth and we are all
Toast!
It won't take any prisioners either.

Backwater Hick Space Industry.
http://www.nvisionsolutions.com/news.php?story=65

How Green Was My Valley is on the FMC channel.

How Green Was My Valley, and How Green is My Valley Still.
Shanti and Dvid sat in the warm glow of their mum's ee.

Slainte O Dhia Duit.
cuhulin


Kevin Alfred Strom May 24th 10 02:29 PM

"Enough Money"
 
Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/23/2010 09:42 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
...
Humans have one fatal flaw called "me, me, me!". Nobody seems to think
beyond their own comfort zone until forced to, and that day is getting
nearer with every new born human.


Yep... that be the problem, alright.. and to top it off, the relative few
that can and do think about the big picture are called loonies by the
rest..



10-4 on that one. I've gotten into it with a lot of people on the
Internet and there are still the religious loonies who think 'God' wants
them to have 10 or more children. At this point my daughter is even
aware of the approaching 'event' or 'events' and does not want to bring
a child into this nuthouse of a world. I don't want any of my blood line
having to live through "Hell on Earth", and it is so obviously coming I
can't believe the number of people with the heads up their asses.




If your blood line doesn't live through the coming Hell on Earth,
then your blood line won't live at all.

After the debacle caused by greed, irrationality, dysgenics, and a
deeply flawed economic system, there will still be a need for human
types with high intelligence and the ability to create high culture
and science, so that evolution can continue once again in an upward
direction.

Within each race and civilization, one can roughly divide the
population into _problem-makers_ and _problem-solvers_.

The overpopulation problem is primarily caused by the vast
oversupply and terrifying fecundity of problem-makers.

But there is a real _shortage_ of problem-solvers.

Problem-solvers tend to be intelligent and responsible.
Unfortunately, problem-solvers often carry the "responsibility" part
too far -- to the point where it becomes self-defeating.

They see overpopulation. They see a clouded future. They see what
tremendous time and resources it takes to give a child the best
possible life.

So they limit their numbers. While the problem-makers continue to
increase through profligate reproduction.

With each generation, human numbers get larger -- but, far more
importantly, the percentage of problem-solvers gets smaller and smaller.

Upon this elite group all human progress -- and probably even human
survival -- depends. And they are committing suicide.

We may be heading for a near-extinction event, such as the event(s)
that brought the European and Asian races into being. (We know that
such an event or events took place, since genetic variation among
races which left Africa in prehistoric times is _far less_ than
among those who stayed -- therefore extreme circumstances made for a
dramatic culling of the population, resulting in relatively rapid
evolution and the formation of new races.)

If drastic steps are taken now to increase the problem-solver
percentage of our population, it's possible that a cataclysmic
collapse and near-extinction-type culling can be avoided.

If we don't do that, America will continue to go down the path of
Third Worldization -- and become little more than a gigantic
nuclear-armed Zimbabwe, and a powerful catalyst for destruction.

Either way, the problem-maker contribution to the gene pool will,
ultimately, be drastically reduced. Nature cannot be fooled.



With all good wishes,



Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

[email protected] May 24th 10 03:17 PM

"Enough Money"
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
All of the people on Earth could fit into Ceylon

Or Jacksonville,Florida,,, or Texas,,,

There is more than enough space on Earth for everybody, there is more
than enough arable land on Earth to feed everybody on Earth.Hydroponic
gardening/crops could work too.
cuhulin


Bill Baka May 24th 10 08:41 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On 05/24/2010 07:17 AM, wrote:
http://www.devilfinder.com
All of the people on Earth could fit into Ceylon

Or Jacksonville,Florida,,, or Texas,,,

There is more than enough space on Earth for everybody, there is more
than enough arable land on Earth to feed everybody on Earth.Hydroponic
gardening/crops could work too.
cuhulin

I read a "Book of Knowledge" published in the 1930's and it said that
all the people on earth could fit into a one mile square cube. These
days it would probably take a 2 mile square, shoulder to shoulder.
Peace,
Bill Baka

Bill Baka May 24th 10 09:03 PM

"Enough Money"
 
On 05/24/2010 06:29 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/23/2010 09:42 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
...
Humans have one fatal flaw called "me, me, me!". Nobody seems to think
beyond their own comfort zone until forced to, and that day is getting
nearer with every new born human.

Yep... that be the problem, alright.. and to top it off, the relative
few
that can and do think about the big picture are called loonies by the
rest..



10-4 on that one. I've gotten into it with a lot of people on the
Internet and there are still the religious loonies who think 'God'
wants them to have 10 or more children. At this point my daughter is
even aware of the approaching 'event' or 'events' and does not want to
bring a child into this nuthouse of a world. I don't want any of my
blood line having to live through "Hell on Earth", and it is so
obviously coming I can't believe the number of people with the heads
up their asses.




If your blood line doesn't live through the coming Hell on Earth, then
your blood line won't live at all.

After the debacle caused by greed, irrationality, dysgenics, and a
deeply flawed economic system, there will still be a need for human
types with high intelligence and the ability to create high culture and
science, so that evolution can continue once again in an upward direction.

Within each race and civilization, one can roughly divide the population
into _problem-makers_ and _problem-solvers_.

The overpopulation problem is primarily caused by the vast oversupply
and terrifying fecundity of problem-makers.


Correct.

But there is a real _shortage_ of problem-solvers.

Problem-solvers tend to be intelligent and responsible. Unfortunately,
problem-solvers often carry the "responsibility" part too far -- to the
point where it becomes self-defeating.

They see overpopulation. They see a clouded future. They see what
tremendous time and resources it takes to give a child the best possible
life.


All correct above.

So they limit their numbers. While the problem-makers continue to
increase through profligate reproduction.


Too correct. Thank you welfare and illegals. They breed like crazy and
do nothing but lower the collective IQ. Evolution in reverse.

With each generation, human numbers get larger -- but, far more
importantly, the percentage of problem-solvers gets smaller and smaller.

Upon this elite group all human progress -- and probably even human
survival -- depends. And they are committing suicide.


The highest IQ group seem to be too busy making new discoveries and not
making any superior babies. Many professionals I have known do not have
kids at all, married or not. Then they complain about traffic jams and
the results of the mice breeding. sigh.

We may be heading for a near-extinction event, such as the event(s) that
brought the European and Asian races into being. (We know that such an
event or events took place, since genetic variation among races which
left Africa in prehistoric times is _far less_ than among those who
stayed -- therefore extreme circumstances made for a dramatic culling of
the population, resulting in relatively rapid evolution and the
formation of new races.)


I think it will be a total extinction event(s), brought on by greed,
ignoring the problem until it is too late. We humans are driving many
species into extinction ever day. Japan and a few other countries are
still whaling, even though the whale population is dropping to near
extinction. The mountain gorillas are all but gone, thanks to Japan
paying good money for gorilla hand ash trays. Actually I think I just
pointed out one of the major offenders, Japan.

If drastic steps are taken now to increase the problem-solver percentage
of our population, it's possible that a cataclysmic collapse and
near-extinction-type culling can be avoided.


That would require some major social engineering, like pairing up
individuals with with high IQ's and making babies that would grow up and
just possibly solve the problems. That would be assuming that these
individuals would be willing. Tax the snot out of the lower IQ problem
makers and cut welfare families off from making babies just to get a
'raise'. Do not feed the starving children in Africa or anywhere else
unless the food has birth control in it. It will never happen or course
since that would be politically incorrect, and/or offensive to the
religious types.

If we don't do that, America will continue to go down the path of Third
Worldization -- and become little more than a gigantic nuclear-armed
Zimbabwe, and a powerful catalyst for destruction.

Either way, the problem-maker contribution to the gene pool will,
ultimately, be drastically reduced. Nature cannot be fooled.


Of course the problem makers will go first, but then we problem solvers
will have no one at the lower levels to grow and harvest food. Kind of a
self defeating thing so I think we will all go.



With all good wishes,



Kevin Alfred Strom.

Cheers,
Bill Baka


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