On May 20, 12:51*am, Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 11:05*pm, bpnjensen wrote:





On May 19, 4:40*pm, Gregg wrote:

On May 19, 3:38*pm, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.
OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.
Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.
Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up.. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce
Is that the Sangean ATS909? It has a real front end.

Dave, i believe he has the super 398. I'm not sure what all the mods
are from radiolabs. but, Bruce is not the first person to state this.
i guess they do something on the front end of this port. if it behaves
on the DX-ultra, it's doing great. i have one here in a tight inverted
V , and it works super.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's right Drifter. Here is the site and specs.http://www.radiolabs..com/products/r...s/super909.php

Yepp, they gave mine that treatment too. *Very nice :-) *The sound and
sensitivity and selectivity are all significantly improved, has a real
RF Gain control and well-chosen narrow/wide filters. *Me like!

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bruce, I forgot to ask you. What do you keep your "tone" on? They have
the normal/ talk ( I think)/ and music. Before I sent mine to RL I had
to keep it set on talk. But when they sent it back to me - I couldn't
believe the difference in the audio. It was so much better, that I
keep my setting on "music" for everything and it sounds great.

Well, we use ours mostly for FM music, so that's what I keep it on
usually - but when it goes to SW, I put nit on talk.

On May 20, 1:18*am, Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 11:58*am, bpnjensen wrote:





On May 19, 7:51*am, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.

It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.

Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.

OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.

Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.

Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. *They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. *If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. *The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just so you know, RL either includes the mod for the whip or if you
asked them to do it they would. I got my 398 basically as soon as they
came out. I kind of had mixed feelings on Chris Justice for the drama
between him and Grove (I'm sure you read the story), it was pretty
hairy on both sides IMO.

But when I sent mine to Chris he had just broke away from Grove and I
think I was one of the first to get mine modded....I'm not saying
literally the first but you know what I mean. But I had asked him
about the whip and he wasn't quite sure at the time if I remember
right but later he sent me an email explaining to me why the whip
sucked and that he would take care of it. After he started modding the
398/909's in earnest I noticed that ( I think) there was no mention of
doing anything to the whip itself on their site....I don't know - I
could be wrong. *{?}

But when I got mine back there was a HUGE difference just off the whip
itself - in a way it ****ed me off that the radio wasn't like that
from go get. But I've never even used the original external antenna
jack or the add on antenna socket on the back of the case he added.
I've always just used a little length of 12 gauge and rolled it up
real tight and placed it over the whip itself with a quarter inch of
wire showing and clipped onto that. Have you used the add on antenna
socket he put on the back of your radio? Do you like it - good
results?

I have used the new antenna socket on the back with RCA plug hooked up
to my PL-259 from the antenna phaser. Works great, as does the
standard side plug. For the whip, I would not make a direct metal-
metal connection to a wire; just coil up the incoming wire insulated
and place it over the whip. Induction does the rest for you,
minimizes images and the potential for static damage.

Bruce

Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Nice shed

On May 20, 10:05*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 20, 1:18*am, Gregg wrote:





On May 19, 11:58*am, bpnjensen wrote:

On May 19, 7:51*am, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.

It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.

Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.

OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.

Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.

Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. *They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. *If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. *The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just so you know, RL either includes the mod for the whip or if you
asked them to do it they would. I got my 398 basically as soon as they
came out. I kind of had mixed feelings on Chris Justice for the drama
between him and Grove (I'm sure you read the story), it was pretty
hairy on both sides IMO.

But when I sent mine to Chris he had just broke away from Grove and I
think I was one of the first to get mine modded....I'm not saying
literally the first but you know what I mean. But I had asked him
about the whip and he wasn't quite sure at the time if I remember
right but later he sent me an email explaining to me why the whip
sucked and that he would take care of it. After he started modding the
398/909's in earnest I noticed that ( I think) there was no mention of
doing anything to the whip itself on their site....I don't know - I
could be wrong. *{?}

But when I got mine back there was a HUGE difference just off the whip
itself - in a way it ****ed me off that the radio wasn't like that
from go get. But I've never even used the original external antenna
jack or the add on antenna socket on the back of the case he added.
I've always just used a little length of 12 gauge and rolled it up
real tight and placed it over the whip itself with a quarter inch of
wire showing and clipped onto that. Have you used the add on antenna
socket he put on the back of your radio? Do you like it - good
results?

I have used the new antenna socket on the back with RCA plug hooked up
to my PL-259 from the antenna phaser. *Works great, as does the
standard side plug. *For the whip, I would not make a direct metal-
metal connection to a wire; just coil up the incoming wire insulated
and place it over the whip. *Induction does the rest for you,
minimizes images and the potential for static damage.

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Right, that is what I did. There is no actual wire touching the whip
itself.

On May 20, 10:31*am, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Nice shed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK - I went out there in the freeking dark and measured my "shed."

I was close in what I was thinking , but off pretty much in the
height. The "Heavyweight Champ Of Sheds"heh comes in peaked at
"exactly" eleven and a quarter X eleven and a quarter X nineteen and
three quarter. The height of nineteen and three quarter though....
that is at the tallest part, the rooftop is like a house, follow me?
That is where I measured, but the slant coming down isn't dramatic -
it's pretty gradual. I'm 6ft.2" and have no problem at all in there
with room or fear of bumping into anything and once I put four more
shelves in there with the two already there - - I can move some more
fun stuff in there. If only I had electricity in there, I could put in
a window (it's windowless) and a little AC unit and a little heater
for the winter. It wouldn't take much IMO to cool or heat a little
area like that.

But I have a spot where I can put things above me, but once I do, I
can't see them which kind of sucks, but I just use my little wooden
six step ladder to take a peak up there. The walls were made ( I'm not
too technical here so I don't know how to phrase it in building lingo)
with the outside wall and then the spray foam insulation and then
another wall to cover it up, still with me? The floor is just your
typical floor, it creaks in a couple spots, I would say the floor is
the worst in terms of stability but in my "not really knowing how to
build a shed mind" .....it would be the easiest to replace - I hope.

But after I measured it I had to walk into the hallowed
area...lol...pretty cool to see that wire clipped to the AD dissapear
into the shed and there she stood when I opened that heavy ass door
start the baptist church choir music my lazy susan with the Vaunted
GE P-780 sitting proudly on top of her. Pathetically I felt somewhat
aroused snicker so I HAD TO sit in my very comfy rocking chair where
I then turned on the GE.

I have to say.....HUGE difference with the wire to the AD. Every
little turn of the dial produced something I could work with in
turning the table to bring in the signal or peaking or nulling with
the loop. So I'm very pleased, it's one of those things I always
wanted to do but just never got around to doing it. So I have to get
another set of fresh D cells for my other 780 because I don't want to
miss having one in the house. Now knowing the dimensions and how it
was built, does it sound safe enough to keep it out there all the
time? Drifter, if you're reading this - let me know your opinion.

On May 20, 10:01*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 20, 12:51*am, Gregg wrote:





On May 19, 11:05*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

On May 19, 4:40*pm, Gregg wrote:

On May 19, 3:38*pm, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 3:23 PM, dave wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:
On May 19, 7:51 am, Drifter wrote:
On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.
It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.
Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.
OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.
Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.
Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce
Is that the Sangean ATS909? It has a real front end.

Dave, i believe he has the super 398. I'm not sure what all the mods
are from radiolabs. but, Bruce is not the first person to state this.
i guess they do something on the front end of this port. if it behaves
on the DX-ultra, it's doing great. i have one here in a tight inverted
V , and it works super.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's right Drifter. Here is the site and specs.http://www.radiolabs.com/products/re...s/super909.php

Yepp, they gave mine that treatment too. *Very nice :-) *The sound and
sensitivity and selectivity are all significantly improved, has a real
RF Gain control and well-chosen narrow/wide filters. *Me like!

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bruce, I forgot to ask you. What do you keep your "tone" on? They have
the normal/ talk ( I think)/ and music. Before I sent mine to RL I had
to keep it set on talk. But when they sent it back to me - I couldn't
believe the difference in the audio. It was so much better, that I
keep my setting on "music" for everything and it sounds great.

Well, we use ours mostly for FM music, so that's what I keep it on
usually - but when it goes to SW, I put nit on talk.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, I can picture that, it sounds great on FM and the RDS is pretty
cool.

On May 20, 10:05*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 20, 1:18*am, Gregg wrote:





On May 19, 11:58*am, bpnjensen wrote:

On May 19, 7:51*am, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.

It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.

Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.

OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.

Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.

Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

Drifter...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. *They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. *If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. *The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just so you know, RL either includes the mod for the whip or if you
asked them to do it they would. I got my 398 basically as soon as they
came out. I kind of had mixed feelings on Chris Justice for the drama
between him and Grove (I'm sure you read the story), it was pretty
hairy on both sides IMO.

But when I sent mine to Chris he had just broke away from Grove and I
think I was one of the first to get mine modded....I'm not saying
literally the first but you know what I mean. But I had asked him
about the whip and he wasn't quite sure at the time if I remember
right but later he sent me an email explaining to me why the whip
sucked and that he would take care of it. After he started modding the
398/909's in earnest I noticed that ( I think) there was no mention of
doing anything to the whip itself on their site....I don't know - I
could be wrong. *{?}

But when I got mine back there was a HUGE difference just off the whip
itself - in a way it ****ed me off that the radio wasn't like that
from go get. But I've never even used the original external antenna
jack or the add on antenna socket on the back of the case he added.
I've always just used a little length of 12 gauge and rolled it up
real tight and placed it over the whip itself with a quarter inch of
wire showing and clipped onto that. Have you used the add on antenna
socket he put on the back of your radio? Do you like it - good
results?

I have used the new antenna socket on the back with RCA plug hooked up
to my PL-259 from the antenna phaser. *Works great, as does the
standard side plug. *For the whip, I would not make a direct metal-
metal connection to a wire; just coil up the incoming wire insulated
and place it over the whip. *Induction does the rest for you,
minimizes images and the potential for static damage.

Bruce- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I forget, can those external antennas - especially the RCA plug - you
could hook up an external FM antenna just for music, right? DX the FM
band.

Gregg wrote:
On May 20, 10:31 am, wrote:
Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

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OK - I went out there in the freeking dark and measured my "shed."

I was close in what I was thinking , but off pretty much in the
height. The "Heavyweight Champ Of Sheds"heh comes in peaked at
"exactly" eleven and a quarter X eleven and a quarter X nineteen and
three quarter. The height of nineteen and three quarter though....
that is at the tallest part, the rooftop is like a house, follow me?
That is where I measured, but the slant coming down isn't dramatic -
it's pretty gradual. I'm 6ft.2" and have no problem at all in there
with room or fear of bumping into anything and once I put four more
shelves in there with the two already there - - I can move some more
fun stuff in there. If only I had electricity in there, I could put in
a window (it's windowless) and a little AC unit and a little heater
for the winter. It wouldn't take much IMO to cool or heat a little
area like that.

But I have a spot where I can put things above me, but once I do, I
can't see them which kind of sucks, but I just use my little wooden
six step ladder to take a peak up there. The walls were made ( I'm not
too technical here so I don't know how to phrase it in building lingo)
with the outside wall and then the spray foam insulation and then
another wall to cover it up, still with me? The floor is just your
typical floor, it creaks in a couple spots, I would say the floor is
the worst in terms of stability but in my "not really knowing how to
build a shed mind" .....it would be the easiest to replace - I hope.

But after I measured it I had to walk into the hallowed
area...lol...pretty cool to see that wire clipped to the AD dissapear
into the shed and there she stood when I opened that heavy ass door
start the baptist church choir music my lazy susan with the Vaunted
GE P-780 sitting proudly on top of her. Pathetically I felt somewhat
arousedsnicker so I HAD TO sit in my very comfy rocking chair where
I then turned on the GE.

I have to say.....HUGE difference with the wire to the AD. Every
little turn of the dial produced something I could work with in
turning the table to bring in the signal or peaking or nulling with
the loop. So I'm very pleased, it's one of those things I always
wanted to do but just never got around to doing it. So I have to get
another set of fresh D cells for my other 780 because I don't want to
miss having one in the house. Now knowing the dimensions and how it
was built, does it sound safe enough to keep it out there all the
time? Drifter, if you're reading this - let me know your opinion.


A radio shack? You'll need a fan in the winter to bring the warm air down.

On May 21, 12:42*am, Gregg wrote:
On May 20, 10:05*am, bpnjensen wrote:





On May 20, 1:18*am, Gregg wrote:

On May 19, 11:58*am, bpnjensen wrote:

On May 19, 7:51*am, Drifter wrote:

On 5/19/2010 9:06 AM, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
OK. I cleaned out my mini barn on the back part of my property.. It now
looks like what I wanted when I had it build. I've got two shelves up
and I'm going to add six more throughout the area.

It is now primed and ready for me to bring some of my equipment out
there. I brought out the lasy susan table and my GE P780 and later
today I'm going to bring the DX398 out there. I have my Pop Comm / MT
mags - my killer rocking chair :-) - I've been having fun.

Even though I live in a pretty good area whereas there isn't much RFI
to deal with, I did notice a big difference just being roughly 70 ft.
away from the house.

OK - here is the question. With the GE and even the 398 I suppose. I
ran a length of 12 gauge to my AD DX Sloper with a alligator clip and
ran it back to the GE. My thinking was that I could couple that to
both of my radios that way, which I did with the GE already- along
with having my loop out there. Will this work? I noticed a big
difference out there, but I was only out there for maybe 45 minutes
and it was around 5pm - so I don't know if the radio came alive just
because I was away from everything or because I hooked up to the
antenna. Any comments would be appreciated.

Antenna overload will be your enemy. Figure a way to couple the energy
to the receivers without swamping the front-ends.

Gregg. I have to go with Dave on this. the 398 has a lose front-end, and
almost any bit of wire over 20 ft. will give you trouble. i would
say the less hash is your big winner. that sloper is a real keeper, but
I would try your set-up on a few desk tops. I believe you will see a
bigger difference, from the house out there. it's like going from a
random long wire, to a good loop. you really don't receive more, you
just "hear" more. a lot of those low signals have always been there,
but now they kind of jump out at you. sounds like a cool set up. is
your barn dry? if you keep your receivers there, ya gotta watch the
humidity. and don't forget the winter cold, ya don't want to kill
a good receiver. have fun.

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I have used my DX-398 (Radiolabs mods) with my Alpha Delta DX-ULTRA
and a 60-foot wire outside, with lots of MW blowtorches nearby (like 2
- 50 kW stations within 2 miles on salt flats and another 5 miles away
or so, plus several others not far), and on SW anyway, it is no worse
than any other radio. *They all get some level of images below 3.5
MHz, bit nothing serious above. *If I got even ten miles away from
this crummy place, most of that would cease too.

The 398, for real signals, leaps ahead dramatically with an external
wire or active antenna. *The built-in whip is too weak - because, as I
understand it, Sangean places a resistor either in series with the
darn thing, or across to the ground, either of which is a dumb idea
and both of which are bypassed by the external antenna socket(s) :-/

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Just so you know, RL either includes the mod for the whip or if you
asked them to do it they would. I got my 398 basically as soon as they
came out. I kind of had mixed feelings on Chris Justice for the drama
between him and Grove (I'm sure you read the story), it was pretty
hairy on both sides IMO.

But when I sent mine to Chris he had just broke away from Grove and I
think I was one of the first to get mine modded....I'm not saying
literally the first but you know what I mean. But I had asked him
about the whip and he wasn't quite sure at the time if I remember
right but later he sent me an email explaining to me why the whip
sucked and that he would take care of it. After he started modding the
398/909's in earnest I noticed that ( I think) there was no mention of
doing anything to the whip itself on their site....I don't know - I
could be wrong. *{?}

But when I got mine back there was a HUGE difference just off the whip
itself - in a way it ****ed me off that the radio wasn't like that
from go get. But I've never even used the original external antenna
jack or the add on antenna socket on the back of the case he added.
I've always just used a little length of 12 gauge and rolled it up
real tight and placed it over the whip itself with a quarter inch of
wire showing and clipped onto that. Have you used the add on antenna
socket he put on the back of your radio? Do you like it - good
results?

I have used the new antenna socket on the back with RCA plug hooked up
to my PL-259 from the antenna phaser. *Works great, as does the
standard side plug. *For the whip, I would not make a direct metal-
metal connection to a wire; just coil up the incoming wire insulated
and place it over the whip. *Induction does the rest for you,
minimizes images and the potential for static damage.

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I forget, can those external antennas - especially the RCA plug - you
could hook up an external FM antenna just for music, right? DX the FM
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I think so - I'd have to check. What you'd need to do is put up an
external FM-designed antenna as high as possible. I have tried my big
outdoor wires on FM and VHF and UHF on one of my portables, and the
little whip antennas are usually as good or better for most
applications, just because the wavelengths are a better match. In
this case, height is more important than excess size.

On May 21, 9:19*am, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
On May 20, 10:31 am, *wrote:
Gregg wrote:
On May 19, 10:55 pm, wrote:
Be sure to keep a couple of rat traps in your barn/shed.
cuhulin

Ha! It's cool Cuh, not that there aren't critters around (because
there are) but I've never seen a rat in my area before. Lots of
coons / bunny wabbits / squirrels / some kittie cats. But I have to
say, the barn/shed was built like freeking Noah's Ark, if you can
overdo a small area like that....IMO it was overdone and I literally
paid for it $$$ - but that's cool. I'll measure it today so you guys
have a better idea, it's not a big space, but it was built like a mini
barn - but not as big as a barn - follow me? But definitely more than
enough room to store my extra kitchen set / ladders/shovels etc. stuff
like that.

Nice shed- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK - I went out there in the freeking dark and measured my "shed."

I was close in what I was thinking , but off pretty much in the
height. The "Heavyweight Champ Of Sheds"heh *comes in peaked at
"exactly" eleven and a quarter X eleven and a quarter X nineteen and
three quarter. The height of nineteen and three quarter though....
that is at the tallest part, the rooftop is like a house, follow me?
That is where I measured, but the slant coming down isn't dramatic -
it's pretty gradual. I'm 6ft.2" and have no problem at all in there
with room or fear of bumping into anything and once I put four more
shelves in there with the two already there - - I can move some more
fun stuff in there. If only I had electricity in there, I could put in
a window (it's windowless) and a little AC unit and a little heater
for the winter. It wouldn't take much IMO to cool or heat a little
area like that.

But I have a spot where I can put things above me, but once I do, I
can't see them which kind of sucks, but I just use my little wooden
six step ladder to take a peak up there. The walls were made ( I'm not
too technical here so I don't know how to phrase it in building lingo)
with the outside wall and then the spray foam insulation and then
another wall to cover it up, still with me? The floor is just your
typical floor, it creaks in a couple spots, I would say the floor is
the worst in terms of stability but in my "not really knowing how to
build a shed mind" .....it would be the easiest to replace - I hope.

But after I measured it I had to walk into the hallowed
area...lol...pretty cool to see that wire clipped to the AD dissapear
into the shed and there she stood when I opened that heavy ass door
start the baptist church choir music *my lazy susan with the Vaunted
GE P-780 sitting proudly on top of her. Pathetically I felt somewhat
arousedsnicker *so I HAD TO sit in my very comfy rocking chair where
I then turned on the GE.

I have to say.....HUGE difference with the wire to the AD. Every
little turn of the dial produced something I could work with in
turning the table to bring in the signal or peaking or nulling with
the loop. So I'm very pleased, it's one of those things I always
wanted to do but just never got around to doing it. So I have to get
another set of fresh D cells for my other 780 because I don't want to
miss having one in the house. Now knowing the dimensions and how it
was built, does it sound safe enough to keep it out there all the
time? Drifter, if you're reading this - let me know your opinion.

A radio shack? *You'll need a fan in the winter to bring the warm air down.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ha! You think? :-) I guess one Hammarlund HQ in the winter should keep
it toasty (if there was electric.)