"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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On May 26, 3:55 am, "VegasNightOwl"
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote in
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Denton wrote:
The British Petroleum BP Corporation has laughed at us stupid Americans
for 34 days. They've ruined one of our greatest natural resources and
decimated thousands of lives. Our government acts like it is scared to
make a frowny-face at these English faggots.

We should seize all BP property for starters; but we won't because we
gutless.

BP...with the so-called "Queen" a major stockholder...needs us to send
a
message. Don't spend a dime with these
pricks as our way of saying "thank you for doing a greater act of
terrorism against the US than ANYTHING ever done for which we went to
war
over.

Frankly, this will hurt the little guy who owns your local station, and
their employees much more than it'll hurt BP.

The way it works in Connecticut (and probably in most parts of the
country) is there are central terminals where they have huge tanks. When
a
tanker comes in, it fills whatever tank(s) have room, and whoever
supplied
the gas gets paid. When a tank truck comes in to get gas for delivery to
your local station - no matter what brand it is, it's filled from
whatever
tank they're currently emptying.

The difference is each brand has their own additives, so before they
fill
up the tank truck with maybe 10k gallons, they put in a tiny amount of
the
brand specific additives. (Kinda like adding salt to a hamburger)

Most of BP's money comes from filling the tanks before the gas is
branded.

Hi Mark,

Finally....finally....finally! Somebody who knows how oil is moved,
refined
then sold on the open market. Boycotting BP will be as effective as
boycotting McDonalds. As the saying goes....it ain't gonna work kids. I
don't like what I see in the Gulf either but it comes down to the fact
that
we are an energy consuming nation......fossil fuel energy. We will never
be
able to "completely" ween ourselves off of oil no matter how much we cut
back. We still need oil for lubrication and most
importantly......PLASTICS!
That's right. Anything you see of plastic, whether hard or soft, it came
from oil. All of your synthetic fabrics are from oil as well.

So - how big a proportion of extracted oil is used for things other
than fuel? And how much is incinerated into the air?

If nobody buys BP oil, you can bet BP will get the message when their
sellers don't want their stock.

Some are wondering, what about the recycling? It's all good too but how
does the recycled material get to its main destination? Hmmmm....trucks.
And they run on diesel, which is lower refined oil. So no matter how you
slice it, energy in fossil fuel form is needed for today's economic
engine,
as well as the future.

Our recycling trucks here run on landfill LNG, not diesel. They could
easily run on other things too, as long as somebody can see past the
end of their nose and this year's immediate bottom line.

Bruce Jensen


A few trucks using LNG isn't going to cut. Even 10,000 trucks across the
country won't cut it. Natural gas is a great play but there are a couple
big problems with it. Transportation, (safety and mass quantities) and
storage. First, transporting LNG is very volatile and can only be done is
small quantities at a time. It would take multiple deliveries of LNG per
day to just keep up with the demand at the station. Unlike the distribution
of gasoline every other day or so depending on how sales are. Storage would
be a regulatory hell at the filling station. To keep LNG in the proper
form, liquid, it needs to be kept cold. Basically, a freezer unit to keep
the tank cold so the gas doesn't expand prematurely. So we're back at the
use of electricity to keep the compressors running. Solar? It's
supplemental, not primary so you need a steady source.



VegasNightOwl