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On 05/31/2010 03:32 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 5/31/2010 2:06 AM, Bill Baka wrote:

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money.
I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

Well, you may be right...or you may be wrong.

You know these bulbs are -identical- how? You've seen the specs for both
brands, you've done a comparative chemical analysis of the gas and the
phosphor coating inside the bulbs, right? Oh, what's that you say? They
both -look- like CFLs so they must be identical?


On 5/31/2010 1:05 PM, Bill Baka wrote:

You want to analyze them be my guest.


ME analyze them? YOU were the one shooting from the hip when you said
they were -identical-. I just wanted YOU to defend YOUR statement. I am
still interested to know why you think they are identical.

I'm still not going to take the damn things apart and have the wife in a
fit.

As an aside, got a friend that bought both the Chinese junkers and GE.
He claimed the warranty support for GE was great and non-existent for
the Chinese.


On 5/31/2010 1:05 PM, Bill Baka wrote:

Whoa, big surprise there. Be still my trembling heart.


Well, maybe it -was- a big surprise to you, as you blamed it on CEO
greed...overlooking the fact that the price differential could be
related to a good warranty versus a poor or no warranty. (Not that we
don't have an overabundance of corporate greed). :-)


Tell that to the employees at Kodak who lost their jobs when the film
got too expensive and they moved to Mexico. Now the film division is
going down anyway. That corporate manager might not get his Porsche.

Do I feel sorry for the executive??
Hardly.


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Not exactly light bulbs per se, but Sharp announces Quadtron LED 3D TVs.
http://www.techchee.com

Chee, far as I am concerned,,, too much money for the amount of bread.
I will wait for Holography TV.
Waiting, that will last me the rest of my life too.
cuhulin

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On May 30, 11:06*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.


CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China


Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'


"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."


and now you know ~ RHF
* .


For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.


The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White & Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
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RHF wrote:
On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.


CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China


Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'


"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."


and now you know ~ RHF
.


For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.


The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
.

I think the most interference is between 10 and 100 kHz. Beyond that it
drops off quickly. Never been an issue here. I can get KUZZ 24/7.
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On 06/01/2010 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:
On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.


CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China


Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'


"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."


and now you know ~ RHF
.


For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.


The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.


Why do you think they have such great service? It's prepaid for by you
the customer.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
.




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On Jun 1, 7:18*am, Bill Baka wrote:
On 06/01/2010 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:



On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill *wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:


Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.


CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China


Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'


"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."


and now you know ~ RHF
* *.


For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.


The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& *Warm White}


- - While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

- Why do you think they have such great *service?
- It's prepaid for by you the customer.

Yeah - The Cost of Doing Business
-is- The Cost of Doing Business
and that "Cost" is normally built into the Price of
the Product or Service that the Customer Pays*.

* Note including the "Cost" of Business Taxes
and Payroll Taxes. {more of the 'indirect' Taxes
we all pay daily}

taxes ... pass it along ~ RHF


-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.


Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.


~ RHF
* .


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The Profits and Perils of LEDs.
http://intelligentenergyportal.com

There is Profit, what is the Peril? Perish the Thought.
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