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Default West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's

Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?



VegasNightOwl




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On Jul 30, 12:46*am, "VegasNightOwl"
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Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? *One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl


VNO,

WLW-AM on 700 kHz at 50KW is an example of
how the old Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
are not-so-clear channel and now only have a
'protected' broadcast zone or 750 {Air} MIles.

FCC AM Query = 137 Records for 700 kHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

KDKA 1020 kHz
{FCC has 200+ Records for 1020 kHz}

WSM 650 kHz
{FCC has 136+ Records for 650 kHz}

Maybe you need a Remote Desert DXing Spot :
-Note- Do your Scouting and Set-Up during the
Day and come back around Twilight to start your
DXing.
-Tip- Dress for the Desert and being outdoors.
Boots & Hat + Water, etc.

In Nevada find yourself a one of those long gently
sloping valleys that seam to go on forever . . .

Drive far out into the desert, or at lease a few
miles away from anything man-made.

Get on the western-side of the valley with the
down ward slope facing toward the Eastern Sky.

Run an Insulated Stranded Wire along the Desert
Floor for 100, 200, 500 or 1000 Feet; usually the
longer the better. Point this Wire toward :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

Put a 4-Foot Ground Rod at the far-eastern-end
and Strip an Inch or two of the Insulation from the
End and Attach the Wire to the Ground Rod using
a Clamp.

-Alternative- Use a 1-Watt Resistor between the
end for the Wire and the Ground Rod : 220 Ohm;
330 Ohm; 470 Ohm; 620 Ohm; 750 Ohm; and
910 Ohm. Pick and choose a Resistor to see
what works best for you with this Antenna at
your location. -OR- Don't connect the Wire to
the Ground Rod and see what you hear.

Take a 5-Gallon Jeep Can full of Water and Soak*
the Ground for about a foot or two around the
Ground Rod; use all of the Water.
* Do this to the Ground each time you use
the Antenna for the Night.

At the near-western-end of the Wire Strip back
the Insulation and connect to your AM Radio
or your Car's Whip Antenna.

It is Import to "Mark" this Near-Western-End
Location very well so that you can Find "It" in
the Twilight when you come back : Painted
Stake, Reflectors, Piled Rocks; all three.

Beverage On Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://www.am-dx.com/antenna_overview.htm
-and- http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/bog/

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF
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RHF wrote:


-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.


A map? Are you sure? Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.
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On Jul 30, 12:31*pm, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.


A map? *Are you sure? *Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.


The "East Coast" and the Target AM/MW Radio
Stations that he listed are around 2200 Air Miles
from Las Vegas, NV.

For a 500 Foot BOG Antenna from Las Vegas, NV
these general headings :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shoot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}
Will get you 'close enough' {In-the-Zone} to Receive
the Target Area/City/States

Beverage-On-the-Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4fc3323dde7474
The Beam-Width {Best Receiving Angle}
is in the general direction of the Far-End
and is around 60~90 Degrees.

~ RHF
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RHF wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:31 pm, wrote:
RHF wrote:

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.


A map? Are you sure? Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.


The "East Coast" and the Target AM/MW Radio
Stations that he listed are around 2200 Air Miles
from Las Vegas, NV.

For a 500 Foot BOG Antenna from Las Vegas, NV
these general headings :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shoot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}
Will get you 'close enough' {In-the-Zone} to Receive
the Target Area/City/States

Beverage-On-the-Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4fc3323dde7474
The Beam-Width {Best Receiving Angle}
is in the general direction of the Far-End
and is around 60~90 Degrees.

~ RHF
.


Atlanta is 86.5 degrees N-S relative to Las Vegas

http://www.gcmap.com/dist?P=LAS-ATL



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"RHF" wrote in message
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On Jul 30, 12:46 am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms,
been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now
with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl


VNO,

WLW-AM on 700 kHz at 50KW is an example of
how the old Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
are not-so-clear channel and now only have a
'protected' broadcast zone or 750 {Air} MIles.

FCC AM Query = 137 Records for 700 kHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

KDKA 1020 kHz
{FCC has 200+ Records for 1020 kHz}

WSM 650 kHz
{FCC has 136+ Records for 650 kHz}

Maybe you need a Remote Desert DXing Spot :
-Note- Do your Scouting and Set-Up during the
Day and come back around Twilight to start your
DXing.
-Tip- Dress for the Desert and being outdoors.
Boots & Hat + Water, etc.

In Nevada find yourself a one of those long gently
sloping valleys that seam to go on forever . . .

Drive far out into the desert, or at lease a few
miles away from anything man-made.

Get on the western-side of the valley with the
down ward slope facing toward the Eastern Sky.

Run an Insulated Stranded Wire along the Desert
Floor for 100, 200, 500 or 1000 Feet; usually the
longer the better. Point this Wire toward :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

Put a 4-Foot Ground Rod at the far-eastern-end
and Strip an Inch or two of the Insulation from the
End and Attach the Wire to the Ground Rod using
a Clamp.

-Alternative- Use a 1-Watt Resistor between the
end for the Wire and the Ground Rod : 220 Ohm;
330 Ohm; 470 Ohm; 620 Ohm; 750 Ohm; and
910 Ohm. Pick and choose a Resistor to see
what works best for you with this Antenna at
your location. -OR- Don't connect the Wire to
the Ground Rod and see what you hear.

Take a 5-Gallon Jeep Can full of Water and Soak*
the Ground for about a foot or two around the
Ground Rod; use all of the Water.
* Do this to the Ground each time you use
the Antenna for the Night.

At the near-western-end of the Wire Strip back
the Insulation and connect to your AM Radio
or your Car's Whip Antenna.

It is Import to "Mark" this Near-Western-End
Location very well so that you can Find "It" in
the Twilight when you come back : Painted
Stake, Reflectors, Piled Rocks; all three.

Beverage On Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://www.am-dx.com/antenna_overview.htm
-and- http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/bog/

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF
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VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting. I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.
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"dave" wrote in message
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VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting.
I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would
be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.



I think both KDWN and KXNT are directional at night. Where are you located?



VegasNightOwl



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VegasNightOwl wrote:
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VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting.
I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would
be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.



I think both KDWN and KXNT are directional at night. Where are you located?



VegasNightOwl



Between L. A. and Palmdale.

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On Jul 31, 6:25*am, dave wrote:
VegasNightOwl wrote:
RHF,


Thanks for the antenna tips. *Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting. *I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl


- I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.

Dave both are in Las Vegas, NV and only
about 200 Air Miles away from you in SoCal

Here KXNT-AM on 840 kHz is blocked
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...7&y=2&sr=Y&s=C
by KMPH in Modesto, CA {Oakdale}
which is only about 30 Air Miles away.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...l=KMPH&x=0&y=0

But KDWN-AM is strong here on 720 kHz
just about every night.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...l=KDWN&x=0&y=0
as is KKOH-AM on 780 kHz from Reno, NV
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...l=KKOH&x=0&y=0


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