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Here's a book that you can read to understand how IBOC works (I mean if
you actually want to understand it).

"http://www.radioworld.com/article/8410".


So I have to buy a book, and find time to read through it, to find out
about something I'm not especially interested in. Thanks for the link,
but I think I'll pass on this one.
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Richard Evans wrote:

SMS wrote:


Here's a book that you can read to understand how IBOC works (I mean if
you actually want to understand it).

"http://www.radioworld.com/article/8410".


So I have to buy a book, and find time to read through it, to find out
about something I'm not especially interested in. Thanks for the link,
but I think I'll pass on this one.


Don't worry...it isn't a "book". It is one of Radio World's usual
half-assed articles that pretends to be technical. Believe me, real
radio engineers don't learn from Radio World.

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John Higdon wrote:


Don't worry...it isn't a "book". It is one of Radio World's usual
half-assed articles that pretends to be technical. Believe me, real
radio engineers don't learn from Radio World.


And I don't need any book or article to know that 2 different radio
signals on the same frequency, is not a good idea.
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On Sep 5, 10:54*am, Richard Evans
wrote:
John Higdon wrote:

Don't worry...it isn't a "book". It is one of Radio World's usual
half-assed articles that pretends to be technical. Believe me, real
radio engineers don't learn from Radio World.


And I don't need any book or article to know that 2 different radio
signals on the same frequency, is not a good idea.


IBOC : A Broadcast System : Designed To Jam
the Fringe-Distant Competition

It is the IBOC Signal that effects the Broadcasting
Radio Station Itself.

It's the IBOC Signal Side-Bands that effectively JAMS
Both the Adjacent Channels for 10+ kHz at 1%
and 20+ kHz at 10%

The result is AM/MW Radio DX is 'o-u-t' with IBOC
and Local AM/MW Radio Stations have a Lock-on
the Local Broadcast Market by JAMMING all the
Fringe and Distant Adjacent Channels by using IBOC.

IBOC a System that Allows you to Jam the next
door neighboring Metro Area's Radio Competition
right out of Your Local Radio Market

IBOC : A Broadcast System : Designed To Jam
the Fringe-Distant Competition

iboc - it's about business ~ RHF
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On Sep 5, 4:32*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:54*am, Richard Evans
wrote:

John Higdon wrote:


Don't worry...it isn't a "book". It is one of Radio World's usual
half-assed articles that pretends to be technical. Believe me, real
radio engineers don't learn from Radio World.


And I don't need any book or article to know that 2 different radio
signals on the same frequency, is not a good idea.


IBOC : A Broadcast System : Designed To Jam
the Fringe-Distant Competition


- It isn't the IBOC Signal that effects the Broadcasting
- Radio Station Itself.

It's the IBOC Signal Side-Bands that effectively JAMS
Both the Adjacent Channels for 10+ kHz at 1%
and 20+ kHz at 10%

The result is AM/MW Radio DX is 'o-u-t' with IBOC
and Local AM/MW Radio Stations have a Lock-on
the Local Broadcast Market by JAMMING all the
Fringe and Distant Adjacent Channels by using IBOC.

IBOC a System that Allows you to Jam the next
door neighboring Metro Area's Radio Competition
right out of Your Local Radio Market

IBOC : A Broadcast System : Designed To Jam
the Fringe-Distant Competition

iboc - it's about business ~ RHF
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On 9/5/2010 8:31 AM, Richard Evans wrote:
SMS wrote:


Here's a book that you can read to understand how IBOC works (I mean
if you actually want to understand it).

"http://www.radioworld.com/article/8410".


So I have to buy a book, and find time to read through it, to find out
about something I'm not especially interested in. Thanks for the link,
but I think I'll pass on this one.


No, you don't have to do anything. If you were interested in
understanding the technology of IBOC rather than making uninformed
comments about it, it would be a wise thing to do. But apparently you're
content to talk about things you "know" that aren't actually true.
Whatever lights your board.
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SMS wrote:


No, you don't have to do anything. If you were interested in
understanding the technology of IBOC rather than making uninformed
comments about it, it would be a wise thing to do. But apparently you're
content to talk about things you "know" that aren't actually true.
Whatever lights your board.


I know as much as I need to know.

Spectrally in efficient.
Causes interference to other services.
Is used at bit rates so low that sound quality can't possibly be
anything better than horrible.
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In article ,
Richard Evans wrote:

Spectrally in efficient.
Causes interference to other services.
Is used at bit rates so low that sound quality can't possibly be
anything better than horrible.


Pretty good summary. I created a long version several years ago with
numbers, graphs, and spectrum analyzer photos. I'll see if I can dig
that up.

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In article ,
SMS wrote:

No, you don't have to do anything. If you were interested in
understanding the technology of IBOC rather than making uninformed
comments about it, it would be a wise thing to do. But apparently you're
content to talk about things you "know" that aren't actually true.
Whatever lights your board.


I would suggest asking a real, working radio technician how IBOC works
rather than reading Radio World, well known INSIDE the industry as being
pretty much a rag.

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