On Sep 17, 3:11*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

I have had 20+ LED Lights for 120-VAC
with the Standard USA E27-Base.

Only 4~6 have lasted more than a Year
with out going blank or loosing half the
individual LEDs in the Bulbs.

Some of these LEDs cost in the $20~$30

IMHO - LEDs are still : Not Ready for Prime Time.

These Mushroom CFLs rated at 120 Watts Light
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/289..._anion_CFL.jpg
Output {=Lumens} and use only 30 Watts of Power
are Good for Reading Lights {Daylight} and Shine
http://cgi.ebay.com/370294601763
Well in most places a 100 Watt Incandescent Bulb
was used before.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001A0GFCG/

dave wrote:

sctvguy1 wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Old incandescent bulbs ARE better for reading. They give off a much
better light.

They do? How so?
A more mellow 'Yellowish' light rather than the harsh white. I still have a
couple of 60watt bulbs in a light just for that reason.

On Sep 17, 4:45*pm, dave wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

LEDs don't seem very cost effective, and the energy usage seems
comparable to CFLs.

Rough 100 Watt Power Light Output Equivalents :

Old Incandescent Bulb Watts = 100 {Cost $1}

New CFL Bulb Watts = 26 : {Cost $4 ~ 4X}
INC to CFL 4:1

LED Bulb Claim Watts = 11 : {Cost $25 ~ 25X}
INC to LED 9:1
CFL to LED 2:1

IMHO - Currently The Best Bang For The Buck :
Is The CFL Bulb :
* Relative Initial Cost to Buy the 1st Bulb
* Longer Service Life and fewer Bulb Replacements
* * CFL Life = 13 INCs ~ 1-CFL = 1/3 of INC Total
* Fewer Watts Used per Hour/Month/Year/LC
Lower Energy Cost over it Total Life-Cycle


These Spiral {Mushroom} CFLs rated at
120 Watts Light Output {=Lumens} and use
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/289..._anion_CFL.jpg
only 30 Watts of Power are Good for Reading
Lights {Daylight} and Shine Well in most places
http://cgi.ebay.com/370294601763
a 100 Watt Incandescent Bulb was used before.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001A0GFCG/
In a Kitchen where they are switch On&Off many
times Daily and are "On" for 8~12 Hours Daily
these last about 3-Years before they don't
Light-Up anymore.

On Sep 17, 5:28*pm, sctvguy1 wrote:
dave wrote:
sctvguy1 wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Old incandescent bulbs ARE better for reading. *They give off a much
better light.

They do? How so?

A more mellow 'Yellowish' light rather than the harsh white. I still have a
couple of 60watt bulbs in a light just for that reason.

Take a Look at the new GE Reveal CFLs

GE 'Reveal' CFL Bulbs -promise- Clean, Beautiful Light
http://www.gelighting.com/na/home_li...reveal_cfl.htm
-but- they are NOT Daylight {Bright}
-and- they are NOT Full Spectrum {White}
-sort-of-like- the pale mellow yellow of old
Incandescent Bulbs

FWIW - GE Reveal CFLs sell for ~$10
for a pair at Wal*Mart

On Sep 17, 4:00*pm, wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Just make sure they are manufactured here and not in the Peoples
Republic. Last time I checked they still used a red banner. Guess some
people never had the 'privilege' of living under a complete
dictatoprship...

On Sep 17, 6:57*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/17/2010 4:45 PM, dave wrote:

...
LEDs don't seem very cost effective, and the energy usage seems
comparable to CFLs.

When LEDs come into mass production, to the extent of CFLs, that will
fix the cost effectiveness ... a good LED consumes 50% the power of a
CFL, or better ... this efficiency is not as advanced as it will be in
the future.

Regards,
JS

There seems to be a surge in LED usage lately, mostly in cars and
traffic lights. I do like LEDs. They literally stay cool. But
expensive,for now.

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 3:57 pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/17/2010 4:45 PM, dave wrote:

...
LEDs don't seem very cost effective, and the energy usage seems
comparable to CFLs.

When LEDs come into mass production, to the extent of CFLs, that will
fix the cost effectiveness ... a good LED consumes 50% the power of a
CFL, or better ... this efficiency is not as advanced as it will be in
the future.

Regards,
JS

I'll buy that - I think LEDs will be ubiquitous in the future, and
will be able to serve almost every need.

I bought some LED spotlights for our back path. Run on three "D" cells, IR
activated by motion sensor. The first time I turned one on, it near blinded
me.. it throws a light path for well over 100'... Batteries are supposed to
last around 2 years.

On Sep 17, 11:30Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 17, 5:54Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:





On Sep 17, 5:11Â*pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 1:00 PM, wrote:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=295820

Yes, Repeal the ban on the common light bulb! SCREW those Damn Commie
democraps and libturds!!!
Go to the stores, load up on common light bulbs! Get em while you can.
cuhulin

Really, it is time to go LED ... if we ever need them, we can bring back
incandescent ...

Regards,
JS

So, we need to outlaw incandescents because you say so?
Would it not be wise to err on the side of free choice?

LIBERAL FASCISTS can't, won't stop with just incandescent bulbs...

Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy [www.masterbationtoday.com] Zoi
said Thursday that the U.S. Department of Energy has a “mandate� to
issue regulations to determine what household appliances are available
to Americans in the future.

Speaking at the inaugural meeting of the recently reestablished
Secretary of Energy Advisory Board (SEAB), Zoi pointed to four tactics
the Obama administration intended use to advance the “deployment of
clean energy.� The first three were government subsidies for private-
sector green energy projects, special tax incentives for green energy
projects and low-interest government-backed loans for green energy
projects.

“The fourth one, which the secretary and I love,� said Zoi, “is where
we have a mandate. Where we can actually just issue regulations and do
market transformation.�

[...]

Before becoming President Barack Obama’s assistant secretary of energy
for energy efficiency and renewable energy, Zoi served as
environmental adviser to President Bill Clinton and the founding CEO
of former Vice President Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.

Zoi said that stricter federal energy efficiency standards will “drive
innovation� and are “cost effective.�

“As the secretary [Chu] says, ‘We’re going to MAKE [by Liberal Fascist
force] people save money for themselves,’� Zoi said. “They haven’t
dumped the dollar bills on the ground yet.�

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75469

WTF!

Are you always this psychotic, or just a really bad actor?- Hide quoted text -

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His real name must be Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. Another escapee.

On 9/17/2010 9:51 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

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I'll buy that - I think LEDs will be ubiquitous in the future, and
will be able to serve almost every need.

I bought some LED spotlights for our back path. Run on three "D" cells, IR
activated by motion sensor. The first time I turned one on, it near blinded
me.. it throws a light path for well over 100'... Batteries are supposed to
last around 2 years.



I have a series of 5 watt cree leds on a large aquarium. The plants
grow like crazy. 60 watts of leds seem noticeably brighter than the 160
watts of fluorescent they replaced ... the leds have already come down
in cost since I purchased mine over a year ago ... the focus of the leds
allow the light to used more efficiently, with the fluorescent, a lot of
light was lost out the sides and ends ...

Regards,
JS

On Sep 17, 9:51*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

...
On Sep 17, 3:57 pm, John Smith wrote:

On 9/17/2010 4:45 PM, dave wrote:

...
LEDs don't seem very cost effective, and the energy usage seems
comparable to CFLs.

When LEDs come into mass production, to the extent of CFLs, that will
fix the cost effectiveness ... a good LED consumes 50% the power of a
CFL, or better ... this efficiency is not as advanced as it will be in
the future.

Regards,
JS

I'll buy that - I think LEDs will be ubiquitous in the future, and
will be able to serve almost every need.

I bought some LED spotlights for our back path. Run on three "D" cells, IR
activated by motion sensor. The first time I turned one on, it near blinded
me.. it throws a light path for well over 100'... Batteries are supposed to
last around 2 years.

My only concern with LEDs, and this is partly selfish, is that their
spectra are often very broadband and have strong spikes in the blue-
green region. For an amateur astronomer trying to avoid light
pollution, this presents some problems - astro objects often glow in
this region of the spectrum; human vision in the dark is best in this
region of the spectrum; and eyepiece filters used to control light
pollution usually pass wavelengths in this region of the spectrum.
Consequently, LEDs are in direct conflict with good views of deep-sky
objects, and the glow from these devices are nearly impossible to
overcome using filtration. This was not the case with most other
light devices, excepting things like brilliant blue halogen lamps.
Incandescent light, in particular, is easy to filter, as are many
ordinary fluorescent wavelengths.