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Joe from Kokomo[_2_] October 5th 10 01:36 AM

(OT) : ? Jerry Brown Forged Papers !
 

Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:
In ,
John wrote:

On 10/2/2010 7:30 PM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
An army may gather, but only the rider will do the fighting. The
rest will
merely witness it.


Yeah, I often stand on the sidelines and do nothing ... however, if that
day I don't, go on with what you are doing ... simply pay me no heed ...


If you were a real christian, you would have to worry about blasphemy.
Now,
hurry on, sonny, with all that pretend outrage.


On 10/3/2010 3:20 PM, dave wrote:

Gambling at Rick's?!?


I'm shocked...shocked, I say.


John Smith October 5th 10 02:58 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/4/2010 2:54 PM, (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)

...


You must be a fool. It is all in your head. Government has as much
authority, power and respect as the people it governs will allow it ...
if you haven't noticed, that is not much today.

If you are still into government worship, I understand how the landscape
will look different to you; But, realize, the people in mental
institutions which are locked into the "reality they live" are much in
the same predicament--it sure looks real to them!

In truth, glimpse the world in reality ... drugs have never been easier
to obtain ... guns have never been easier to obtain ... prostitutes have
never been easier to obtain ... more laws are being broken in front of
me than I can shake a stick at ... drive into the bad part of the city
you live in, see if it isn't scarier than it has ever been (if in doubt,
ask a cop) ... etc., etc.

And, you stand there and act as if I am going to believe there is
respect for the law left? That anyone has respect for any sheet of
paper that government issues?

You are joking right? And, if I have gone off the deep edge and this is
not happening right before my eyes ... then brother, this is one hell of
a nightmare I am living through!

Regards,
JS


John Smith October 5th 10 03:04 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/4/2010 2:42 PM, (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)

...
Specify ANY place in the United States where a couple can
be lawfully married in a church WITHOUT having a marriage
license. AND be accorded all of the benefits to married couples
that the state provides. THEN we can discuss this.
...


I asked my wife, she remembers as I, we may be mistaken, but in 1970
when we wed in a Catholic church, the only paper we can remember was one
saying our blood types were compatibly for some damn reason ... perhaps
something about a possible chance of death or defect in the offspring if
incompatible ...

The paper work is in a bank lockbox so we can't check just now ... it
sounds like there have been changes since then ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 5th 10 03:08 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/4/2010 5:47 PM, (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)

...
Right. And there are a LOT of benefits available to the legally-
married. And artificially/arbitrarily-added religious embellishments
add ZERO legal value to a marriage. They do NOTHING to legitimize
it.
...


Brother, if you are getting married to collect government benefits, you
shouldn't be married in the first place.

Any valid reason to marry has NOTHING what-so-ever to do with government
benefits ... and they some wonder why divorce is so high?

ROFLOL ... ROFLOL ... ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

Clave[_3_] October 5th 10 03:25 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/4/2010 5:47 PM, (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)

...
Right. And there are a LOT of benefits available to the legally-
married. And artificially/arbitrarily-added religious embellishments
add ZERO legal value to a marriage. They do NOTHING to legitimize
it.
...


Brother, if you are getting married to collect government benefits, you
shouldn't be married in the first place.


He didn't say anything like that.


Any valid reason to marry has NOTHING what-so-ever to do with government
benefits ...


And yet those benefits *do* get conferred on married people.

Jim




RHF October 5th 10 03:31 AM

Idiots-R-Us : Married In God's Eyes -wrt- No License Issued By "The State"
 
On Oct 4, 2:42*pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) http://
www.LayoffRemedy.com" wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 08:20:08 -0700,
Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) http://www.LayoffRemedy.com wrote:


[ ... ]



- - - (1) *ALL marriages are STATE-licensed.
- - - NO license, NO marriage!

Now But NOT Always in the Past . . .

FWIW - The Commingling of Marriage as a Function
"Of The State" {State Record} that was Performed by
'The Church' stated as Codified during Napoleon's
Reign in France -wrt- The "Napoleonic Code"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_code

"The State"s Issued 'Birth Certificates' -replaced-
Church Recorded 'Baptismal Records' as a Legal
Proof of Birth and Citizenship and Inheritance.

[email protected] October 5th 10 04:04 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On Oct 4, 10:54*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/4/2010 7:44 PM, RHF wrote:

...
What State ?
* .


That was done to appease Calif, however, we ended up getting married in
Nevada so all the relative could gamble! *I don't think the paperwork
was even required there ... but then, again, I could be mistaken.

It all had to do with making you aware because the baby might have to be
given a transfusion on birth, says my wife ... I don't know, and too
lazy to research it.

Regards,
JS


This is what they told the people back in those days. No longer
required in some states and the reason is truly disgusting. Don't even
research this...

John Smith October 5th 10 04:10 AM

Surely there is a better way to dole out free stuff rather thanto require marriage.... 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/4/2010 8:00 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

...
So the Gay reason to marry isn't the need for "commitment" it's the need
for GOVERNMENT WELFARE.


Surely there is a better way to dole out free stuff rather than to
require marriage....


Exactly. Has about the same value as homosexual marriage ... none!

Regards,
JS

Clave[_3_] October 5th 10 04:58 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/4/2010 7:25 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Any valid reason to marry has NOTHING what-so-ever to do with government
benefits ...


And yet those benefits *do* get conferred on married people.

Jim


The fact that I exist in the world absolutely means dust will settle on me
... and has about as much meaning to marriage as marriage to the dust on
me.

If you took away all government benefits, the effect on valid marriage
would be zero. The government give tax breaks to the rich, also ... the
ways of government are a mystery to logic, reason and sanity ...


Nice tap-dance. Let us know if you ever have anything serious to say about
the issue.

Jim




Clave[_3_] October 5th 10 05:00 AM

Surely there is a better way to dole out free stuff rather than to require marriage.... 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...

On 10/4/2010 7:25 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Any valid reason to marry has NOTHING what-so-ever to do with
government
benefits ...

And yet those benefits *do* get conferred on married people.



So the Gay reason to marry isn't the need for "commitment" it's the need
for GOVERNMENT WELFARE.


I see -- you're so confused and embarrassed by what I said that you have to
pretend I said something completely different.

Jim




John Smith October 5th 10 02:04 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/4/2010 8:58 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Nice tap-dance. Let us know if you ever have anything serious to say about
the issue.

Jim


The only things sane to say about marriage are the following:

1) Marriage is only valid between 1 man and 1 woman.
2) Marriage was given to the first man and the first woman by God. The
oldest existing record of humankind bears this out as fact. This was a
time before government and institutions of man ... this authority cannot
be usurped by government(s.)
3) Homosexuals are an abomination.
4) The church has the only recognizable authority over marriage.
5) Idiots and morons in government can pass any rules, regulations and
laws which their treasonous actions will allow ... a sane person will
simply ignore them.
6) The government IS the majority of the people. The present bunch
occupying our public servant offices only have valid authority when
representing, acting in and carryout out the wishes and best interests
of the people.

The truth, logic and reason of the above is so blatantly self-evident
that no sane individual can find legitimate argument with these facts
and truths. Free your mind, recognize the truth and be free ...

Prove yourself a fool and dispute the above!

Regards,
JS



[email protected] October 5th 10 02:29 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom ofReligion" -and- 'The Separation...
 
It's All Really Very Simple, If ... You Can Become a Conspiracy
Investigator
http://www.rense.com/general92/if.htm

http://www.devilfinder.com
General George S. Patton's opinion of the Jews

Joos!
cuhulin


Joe from Kokomo[_2_] October 5th 10 02:43 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:04 AM, John Smith wrote:

The only things sane to say about marriage are the following:


4) The church has the only recognizable authority over marriage.


Regards, JS


Huh?

So, are you saying that all those heterosexual couples married in a
civil ceremony on the steps of City Hall aren't really married?


[email protected] October 5th 10 03:09 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom ofReligion" -and- 'The Separation...
 
We'll all be drinkin free bubble ubb, and eatin that rainbow stewwwww ~
Merle Haggard - Six Pack movie.

I needs to go to the Lowe's store, after stoppin off first at the
Goodwill store, Ergo the Goodwill store is right on the way to the
Lowe's store.At Lowe's store, I am going to load up on some more General
Electric Reveal 60 Watt Incandescent Light Bulbs too.

I have to wait untill the Goldfinger movie is over, on the Encore
channel.
cuhulin


Reaper G October 5th 10 03:54 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On Oct 5, 6:04*am, John Smith wrote:
On 10/4/2010 8:58 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Nice tap-dance. *Let us know if you ever have anything serious to say about
the issue.


Jim


The only things sane to say about marriage are the following:

1) Marriage is only valid between 1 man and 1 woman.
2) Marriage was given to the first man and the first woman by God. *The
oldest existing record of humankind bears this out as fact. *This was a
time before government and institutions of man ... this authority cannot
be usurped by government(s.)
3) Homosexuals are an abomination.
4) The church has the only recognizable authority over marriage.
5) Idiots and morons in government can pass any rules, regulations and
laws which their treasonous actions will allow ... a sane person will
simply ignore them.
6) The government IS the majority of the people. *The present bunch
occupying our public servant offices only have valid authority when
representing, acting in and carryout out the wishes and best interests
of the people.

The truth, logic and reason of the above is so blatantly self-evident
that no sane individual can find legitimate argument with these facts
and truths. *Free your mind, recognize the truth and be free ...

Prove yourself a fool and dispute the above!


Republican Britney Spears's drunken Vegas shotgun wedding to Jason
Alexander.
Sen. John Ensign and other "Promise Keepers" cheating on their wives
Richard "The Nightstalker" Ramirez getting hitched while serving a
life sentence.
"Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire?"

Seems to me that the homosexuals are the ones taking marriage
seriously.


John Smith October 5th 10 05:39 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 6:43 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

...
Huh?

So, are you saying that all those heterosexual couples married in a
civil ceremony on the steps of City Hall aren't really married?


Remember the question, WWJD?

Well, just ask yourself, "Would God recognize such a marriage?"

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 5th 10 05:44 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:09 AM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
Also those in protestant or eastern orthodox churches. Synagogues, mosques,
assorted temples. And since the god he claims to follow might show greater
leniency and mercy than him, he has to tell his god how to judge other people.


I would follow a God which asks of me to follow the Ten Commandments. I
would follow Jesus's teachings ... indeed, when one see the benefits one
reaps from leading a life which involves attempting to structure ones
self, ones actions and ones beliefs from such followings, as well as
choosing friends which follow such teachings, there really is not a
second choice ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 5th 10 05:45 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 7:54 AM, Reaper G wrote:

...
Republican Britney Spears's drunken Vegas shotgun wedding to Jason
Alexander.
Sen. John Ensign and other "Promise Keepers" cheating on their wives
Richard "The Nightstalker" Ramirez getting hitched while serving a
life sentence.
"Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire?"

Seems to me that the homosexuals are the ones taking marriage
seriously.


Funny, everything you mention just sounds the same to me.

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 5th 10 05:48 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:06 AM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
Someone said you will know a seed by its fruit. Your fruit is hatred, violence,
usurpation of the bible's god's justice, refusal to obey the bible's saviour's
call for nonviolence, blasphemy, and heresy. So what is your seed and who is
your god?


Oh, it is much worse that that. I am absolutely arrogant in my belief
that it is the correct thinking ... and, if you really ask the above
question, in honesty, no answer will be suitable for you--other than
your own beliefs, to which the freedoms of America entitle you.

Regards,
JS

BDK[_6_] October 5th 10 05:51 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
In article ,
says...
On 10/5/2010 6:43 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

...
Huh?

So, are you saying that all those heterosexual couples married in a
civil ceremony on the steps of City Hall aren't really married?


Remember the question, WWJD?

Well, just ask yourself, "Would God recognize such a marriage?"

Regards,
JS


Wow, all this political and religious stuff makes me nostalgic for the
good old days, when people posted about....radios.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

John Smith October 5th 10 05:57 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:51 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Wow, all this political and religious stuff makes me nostalgic for the
good old days, when people posted about....radios.


Find something on a freq which is interesting! SW just isn't what it
used to be, yanno'?

But, share if you find something better than the same old rag chew of
the ham bands or some religious rantings of "millionaire preachers", or
the same old "politically correct dribble" flowing out of the country
sanctioned stations ... I am listening. And, number stations I can do
without!

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 5th 10 06:02 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:52 AM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
Jesus said to be nonviolent in response to violence and never judge other people.


I am afraid that I missed the part of Jesus denying me, or his
following, the right and responsibility of self preservation--whether
preserving my life, my freedoms, my property, my family, my friends, my
nation, my community, etc., etc.


You might try it sometime.


As I said, I consider it your right to have your own views ... find
someone who wants to change your thinking if you want to start dispute
.... I get too much fun watching idiots, imbeciles and morons ... why
would I even end the entertainment?

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 5th 10 06:05 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:53 AM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
Then you are not a christian.


Yes, you have pointed out that we have a totally different perspective
of reality. You have consistently pointed out that we disagree. You
have been consistant in being consistant.

I got you, your thinking, etc. Can you get that? Do you have a point I
am missing? I mean, am I supposed to care what you think? If so, you
doom yourself to disappointment.

Regards,
JS

BDK[_6_] October 5th 10 06:23 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
In article ,
says...
On 10/5/2010 9:51 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Wow, all this political and religious stuff makes me nostalgic for the
good old days, when people posted about....radios.


Find something on a freq which is interesting! SW just isn't what it
used to be, yanno'?

But, share if you find something better than the same old rag chew of
the ham bands or some religious rantings of "millionaire preachers", or
the same old "politically correct dribble" flowing out of the country
sanctioned stations ... I am listening. And, number stations I can do
without!

Regards,
JS


But right wing politics (left wing too) and religion are just as
boring/annoying as ever.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 5th 10 06:40 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/3/2010 7:27 PM, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:


"CC",

All nice and good but Ignores the Fact
that it all Negates "Freedom of Religion".
.
Once Again Let Me Repeat Myself :
Put a "Freedom of Religion" 'Clause' In Any
"Gay Marriage" Law and I Am For It [A-OK]
-however- Leave It Out and Force Churches to
Perform "Gay Marriage" and I Am Against It [.]


It's against the law for government to tell a church what to do.
I say the 1866 equal protection law applies, as well as the 14th amendment.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 5th 10 07:21 PM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/3/2010 6:52 AM, (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)
http://www.LayoffRemedy.com wrote:


With reference to Same-Sex Marriage vis-a-vis Civil Unions...

See this:

http://www.egalitarian.biz/Marriage-is-MARRIAGE.html


"Any Other Designation is a Deliberate and Hateful
Imposition of Second-Class Citizen Status"

So my drivers license has several designations and by having one that
has limitations like *NO NIGHT DRIVING* would make me a second class
citizen?




RHF October 5th 10 09:24 PM

Idiots-R-Us : Is Marriage A Basic Universal Human Right ? - That NOState Should Be Allowed To License !
 
On Oct 4, 7:54*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/4/2010 7:44 PM, RHF wrote:

...
What State ?
* .


That was done to appease Calif, however, we ended up getting married in
Nevada so all the relative could gamble! *I don't think the paperwork
was even required there ... but then, again, I could be mistaken.

It all had to do with making you aware because the baby might have to be
given a transfusion on birth, says my wife ... I don't know, and too
lazy to research it.

Regards,
JS


? California Blood Test ?
The Basis for the Blood Test was to Detect the
Sexually Transmitted Diseases Syphilis -not-
Genetically [DNA] Connections.

RHF October 5th 10 09:30 PM

Idiots-R-Us : In Search of 'Loony'
 
On Oct 4, 2:54*pm, "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) http://
www.LayoffRemedy.com" wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:35:00 -0700,

John Smith wrote:
*(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) http://www.LayoffRemedy.com wrote:


[ ... ]

* * As I said, the ONLY marriage which are valid are preformed,
recognized and respected by the church (Gods' representatives.)


* * In your *wacko* OPINION. *Are you out to PROVE to everyone
that you truly are dumber than a sack of hammers and have ZERO
credibility?

* * You've pretty much already accomplished that, in just that one
totally ABSURD comment.

* * *The idiots didn't pay any attention when gov't passed rules,
regulations and laws which are unconstitutional, illegal, treasonous
and fraudulent...


* * *Such AS? *OTHER than such circumventions of the Constitution
like the 55-mph speed limit being imposed 35 years ago by BLACK-
MAILING the states, or these ILLEGAL and UNdeclared "wars" we
keep wasting lives and billions of dollars on... before inevitably
LOSING them.

*---but then, the idiots have missed a lot more than just that...
proof is right before your eyes; *With an excellent demonstration
in progress in the mess we are in.


- You are OFF-topic.
-*Which is logical, since you are ALL WET on
- that LOONY marriage view of yours.

"CC" ?LOONY?

"CC" You Want "Loony" !

then 'cc' simply look in a mirror ;;-}} ~ RHF

RHF October 5th 10 09:50 PM

Idiots-R-Us : What Would 'You' Do ?
 
On Oct 3, 6:46*pm, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult
wrote:
In article ,
*John Smith wrote:


- WWSD?

! What Would "S" Do !

? Who or What is "S" ?

! Saddam ! {Hussein}

! the big Salami !

! Sarah ! {Palin}

! Satin ! {The Devil}

WW'G'D ? = What Would 'God' Do ?

WW'J'D ? = What Would 'Jesus' Do ?

WW'A'D ? = What Would 'Allah' Do ?

WW'B'D ? = What Would 'Buddha' Do ?

WW'PM'D ? = What Would 'Prophet Mohammad' Do ?

WW'G'D ? = What Would 'Gandhi' Do ?

WW'MLK'D ? = What Would 'MLK' Do ?

WW'Mx'D ? = What Would 'Marx' Do ?

WW'L'D ? = What Would 'Lenin' Do ?

WW'S'D ? = What Would 'Stalin' Do ?

WW'H'D ? = What Would 'Hitler' Do ?

WW'Mz'D ? = What Would 'Mao' Do ?


WW'TGP'D ? = What Would 'The Great Pumpkin' Do ?

WW'O'D ? = What Would 'Obama' Do ?

?q? what would 'you' do . . . - wwud ~ RHF

John Smith October 6th 10 04:23 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 11:30 AM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
Pretty much all of Matthew 5.

If you believe there is eternal life after a death, what value is a year or ten
or millenia against an eternity?


I find your take on things ... interesting?

However, we need more of the Knights of Columbus for the second coming
.... however, spiritual warriors are encouraged to apply ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 6th 10 04:25 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 4:14 PM, Clave wrote:

...
You might try reading Acts some time. Through about half of it, the
Apostles are deciding how much of the Law of Moses the Gentiles really need
to adopt to become Christians.

Pretty much all they were left with was not to share in food offered at
pagan ceremonies. That's it. Other than that, do what Jesus said, nothing
of which "defines marriage" or condemns homosexuality.

John 8:1-11 gives a pretty clear idea of what Jesus himself thought about
the Laws of Moses.

Jim


Homosexuality is an abomination, to God ... it is simply disgusting to
the majority ...

Regards,
JS


John Smith October 6th 10 04:29 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 4:17 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Are you saying you know the Mind of God well enough to answer that question
yourself?

Jim


I know what I believe he would say ... yes. Extrapolation of the books
leads to a logical conclusion ... God would not OK government having
anything to say of marriage ... it is his creation under his domain.
However, obfuscation the most obvious is the realm of cheats and liars ...

Regards,
JS


Clave[_3_] October 6th 10 04:37 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/5/2010 4:14 PM, Clave wrote:

...
You might try reading Acts some time. Through about half of it, the
Apostles are deciding how much of the Law of Moses the Gentiles really
need
to adopt to become Christians.

Pretty much all they were left with was not to share in food offered at
pagan ceremonies. That's it. Other than that, do what Jesus said,
nothing
of which "defines marriage" or condemns homosexuality.

John 8:1-11 gives a pretty clear idea of what Jesus himself thought about
the Laws of Moses.

Jim


Homosexuality is an abomination, to God ...


You didn't understand a single word.

Jim




Clave[_3_] October 6th 10 04:38 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/5/2010 4:17 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Are you saying you know the Mind of God well enough to answer that
question
yourself?

Jim


I know what I believe he would say ... yes... Extrapolation of the books
leads to a logical conclusion ...


I explained why your conclusion is wrong. You don't care.

Jim




John Smith October 6th 10 04:38 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 3:24 PM, Clave wrote:

...
...snip childish bigotry...

We already know that your opinion isn't based on reason. You don't have to
keep proving it.

Jim


I have never been liked by child molesters or homosexuals ...

Here is a nice little site that is one product of homosexuality, in my
opinion:

http://www.nambla.org/

Of great insight to into the minds of queers are these two links, found
on the page:

http://www.nambla.org/hay2002.htm

http://www.nambla.org/pederasty.htm

A complete read of the above enlightens one to the sickness, depravity
and debauchery some attempt to sell you as "another lifestyle." This is
why God uses the term ABOMINATION!

Regards,
JS



Clave[_3_] October 6th 10 04:45 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/5/2010 3:24 PM, Clave wrote:

...
...snip childish bigotry...

We already know that your opinion isn't based on reason. You don't have
to
keep proving it.

Jim


I have never been liked by child molesters or homosexuals ...


Oops -- you accidentally acknowledged that they aren't the same thing.

Jim




John Smith October 6th 10 05:04 AM

Idiots-R-Us : Is Marriage A Basic Universal Human Right ? - ThatNO State Should Be Allowed To License !
 
On 10/5/2010 1:24 PM, RHF wrote:

...
? California Blood Test ?
The Basis for the Blood Test was to Detect the
Sexually Transmitted Diseases Syphilis -not-
Genetically [DNA] Connections.
...


Well, I can't remember all the details from those long decades ago ...
however, I am certain no one ever mentioned any STD to me or the wife,
and she agrees. But hey, I no longer believe anything the government
tells me ... so, that problem is fixed, apparently, one way or another.

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 6th 10 05:09 AM

Idiots-R-Us : Equal Protection 'Under' The Law -and- The Equalityof All Human {Civil} Rights
 
On 10/5/2010 8:26 PM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:

...
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/ima...rop8ruling.pdf

Look up the Findings of Fact. It covers all of this. If you dispute this, you
should've involved yourself in the case when you had a chance.


A prime example of why my "looniness" causes me to totally disregard
government ... I hope others have the gonads to let the likes of this
also awaken them to the fact that they no longer have respect either ...

Regards,
JS

[email protected] October 6th 10 05:10 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On Oct 5, 12:57*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/5/2010 9:51 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Wow, all this political and religious stuff makes me nostalgic for the
good old days, when people posted about....radios.


Find something on a freq which is interesting! *SW just isn't what it
used to be, yanno'?

But, share if you find something better than the same old rag chew of
the ham bands or some religious rantings of "millionaire preachers", or
the same old "politically correct dribble" flowing out of the country
sanctioned stations ... I am listening. *And, number stations I can do
without!

Regards,
JS


Time and frequency stations never changed their content. Except CHU,of
course ( must be related to our dear friend Cu-Hu ) .

John Smith October 6th 10 05:15 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:10 PM, wrote:

...
Time and frequency stations never changed their content. Except CHU,of
course ( must be related to our dear friend Cu-Hu ) .


True, ... on all fronts.

Regards,
JS


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