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bpnjensen October 6th 10 05:54 AM

Idiots-R-Us : Equal Protection 'Under' The Law -and- The Equalityof All Human {Civil} Rights
 
On Oct 5, 6:42*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 10/5/2010 6:54 PM, RHF wrote:





On Oct 5, 11:24 am, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult
wrote:
In article ,
*Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:


On 10/3/2010 7:27 PM, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:


"CC",


All nice and good but Ignores the Fact
that it all Negates "Freedom of Religion".
* .
Once Again Let Me Repeat Myself :
Put a "Freedom of Religion" 'Clause' In Any
"Gay Marriage" Law and I Am For It [A-OK]
-however- Leave It Out and Force Churches to
Perform "Gay Marriage" and I Am Against It [.]


It's against the law for government to tell a church what to do.
I say the 1866 equal protection law applies, as well as the 14th amendment.


Amendment IX

- - The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not
be
- - construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


- One of the enumerated rights is the right
- to equal protection of the law.


=WRT= Equal Protection 'Under' The Law
-and- The Equality of All Human {Civil} Rights


[nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.]

NO one can marry direct DNA relations(Family) and NO body can marry
anyone but the opposite sex.....

Gays would have no physical reason to *NOT* marry family since they
can't produce retarded/weak DNA offspring. So when you allow the gays to
marry the Heterosexuals will then be able to complain that their civil
rights are being violated by stopping them from marrying their brother
or sister or son or daughter. Then using equal protection under the law
you would be forced to allow heterosexual family members like brother,
sister or father, daughter marriages also.

And that is one reason that Marriage is NOT what is needed for gays. You
have a death certificate for a reason and you don't use a death
certificate for someones birth, they are for different purposes, as
should Marriage NOT be used for both Heterosexual and Homosexual unions.
They are two very different applications of law and to use the same
document and rules and regulations will be a disservice to one or the
other and at some point would lead to violating the "equal protection
under the law" part of the constitution.


Do you always make it up as you go along?

bpnjensen October 6th 10 05:57 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On Oct 5, 8:29*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/5/2010 4:17 PM, Clave wrote:

...
Are you saying you know the Mind of God well enough to answer that question
yourself?


Jim


I know what I believe he would say ... yes. *Extrapolation of the books
leads to a logical conclusion ... God would not OK government having
anything to say of marriage ... it is his creation under his domain.
However, obfuscation the most obvious is the realm of cheats and liars ....

Regards,
JS


I would hesitate to try to count the number of times God changed His
mind in the Bible. The lack of consistency, even within chapters, can
be mind-boggling.

John Smith October 6th 10 06:04 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On 10/5/2010 9:57 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

...
I would hesitate to try to count the number of times God changed His
mind in the Bible. The lack of consistency, even within chapters, can
be mind-boggling.


I don't find that. However, I do find that the whole point of what God
is speaking on is missed by some ... like when the homosexuals demand
"equality" in marriage and "the tax breaks" and totally miss the whole
point of marriage ... it is why homosexual logic looks insane to
heterosexuals, a good portion of the time!

Regards,
JS

Clave[_3_] October 6th 10 06:24 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separation of Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/5/2010 9:57 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

...
I would hesitate to try to count the number of times God changed His
mind in the Bible. The lack of consistency, even within chapters, can
be mind-boggling.


I don't find that...


That's because you're a lying, bigoted, phony-ass "Pay-attention-to-
MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" troll. You haven't read the Bible, and you aren't a
Christian.

Jim




RHF October 6th 10 07:37 AM

RRS : nostalgic for the - good old days, when people posted about....radios.
 
On Oct 5, 9:51*am, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...



On 10/5/2010 6:43 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:


...
Huh?


So, are you saying that all those heterosexual couples married in a
civil ceremony on the steps of City Hall aren't really married?


Remember the question, WWJD?


Well, just ask yourself, "Would God recognize such a marriage?"


Regards,
JS


- Wow, all this political and religious stuff makes me nostalgic for
the
- good old days, when people posted about....radios.
- --
- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

Figure that this one thread has saved a few Wives
from being Beaten and countless Dogs from getting
Kicked. a n d . . . a short wave good bye ~ RHF

RHF October 6th 10 07:42 AM

(OT) : The Issue Is "Freedom of Religion" -and- 'The Separationof Church and State' -wrt- 'Civil Union' -versus- "Gay Marriage"
 
On Oct 5, 9:53*am, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult
wrote:
In article ,
*John Smith wrote:

On 10/5/2010 9:06 AM, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult wrote:


...
Someone said you will know a seed by its fruit. Your fruit is hatred,
violence,
usurpation of the bible's god's justice, refusal to obey the bible's
saviour's
call for nonviolence, blasphemy, and heresy. So what is your seed and who
is
your god?


Oh, it is much worse that that. *I am absolutely arrogant in my belief
that it is the correct thinking ... and, if you really ask the above


CBOC -wrote-
"Jesus said to be nonviolent in response to violence
and never judge other people."

CBOC -wrote-
"Then you are not a christian."

Sounds like you-too are Judging 'other' People

Oops make that me-three oops oops ~ RHF


--
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. * * * * * I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? * * * At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Blessed be.



RHF October 6th 10 08:10 AM

Idiots-R-Us : Which Part of Man {Adult Male} & Boy {Child Male} LoveNAMBLA - Do You Not Understand To Be Child Molestation ?
 
On Oct 5, 8:45*pm, "Clave" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...

On 10/5/2010 3:24 PM, Clave wrote:


...
...snip childish bigotry...


We already know that your opinion isn't based on reason. *You don't have
to
keep proving it.


Jim


- - I have never been liked by child molesters or homosexuals ...

- Oops -- you accidentally acknowledged that they aren't the same
thing.
-
- Jim

"CLAVE" {Jim} seting your reply to 'alt.stupidity'
is a real wimp-out . . .

Which Part of Man {Adult} & Boy {Child} Love NAMBLA
Do You Not Understand To Be Child Molestation ?
NAMBLA http://www.nambla.org/
-aka- Sick Gay Rights

Man {Adult Male} Using Boy {Child Male} = Homosexuals [.]
NAMBLA http://www.nambla.org/
-aka- Sick Homosexual 'Gay' Criminals : Not LGBT Rights

Man {Adult Male} Exploiting Boy {Child Male} = Child Abuse [.]
NAMBLA http://www.nambla.org/
-aka- Sick Homosexual 'Gay' Criminals : Not LGBT Rights

Man {Adult Male} Victimizing Boy {Child Male} = Child Molestation [.]
NAMBLA http://www.nambla.org/
-aka- Sick Homosexual 'Gay' Criminals : Not LGBT Rights

Clave[_3_] October 6th 10 08:14 AM

Idiots-R-Us : Which Part of Man {Adult Male} & Boy {Child Male} Love NAMBLA - Do You Not Understand To Be Child Molestation ?
 


"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Oct 5, 8:45 pm, "Clave" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...

On 10/5/2010 3:24 PM, Clave wrote:


...
...snip childish bigotry...


We already know that your opinion isn't based on reason. You don't
have
to
keep proving it.


Jim


- - I have never been liked by child molesters or homosexuals ...

- Oops -- you accidentally acknowledged that they aren't the same
thing.
-
- Jim

"CLAVE" {Jim} seting your reply to 'alt.stupidity'...


....is entirely appropriate for k00ks who've demonstrated that they're
beyond rational discussion.

Jim




RHF October 6th 10 08:40 AM

Idiots-R-Us : List of Ten Human Values Associated With ChurchOrdained Marriage of One Man and One Women
 
On Oct 6, 12:14*am, "Clave" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

...



On Oct 5, 8:45 pm, "Clave" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message


...


On 10/5/2010 3:24 PM, Clave wrote:


...
...snip childish bigotry...


We already know that your opinion isn't based on reason. *You don't
have
to
keep proving it.


Jim


- - I have never been liked by child molesters or homosexuals ...


- Oops -- you accidentally acknowledged that they aren't the same
thing.
-
- Jim


- - "CLAVE" {Jim} seting your reply to 'alt.stupidity'...

CLAVE" {Jim},
Doing It Again is just a Foolish Double Wimp-Out
alt.stupidity,alt.you.belong.here.more.than.he.doe s

CLAVE" {Jim}, "you.belong.here.more.than.he.does"
you know yourself - oh too well ;;-}} ~ RHF

duke October 7th 10 08:00 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:35:21 -0700, Project China Blue Book
wrote:

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 05:33:03 -0800, dave wrote:

RHF wrote:
Tell it to Ratzinger!


Sorry, he's already put a stop to such a mortal sin.


After a millenia and a half, it's about time.


He's only been in charge 5 years.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

John Smith October 7th 10 08:08 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/7/2010 12:00 PM, duke wrote:

...
He's only been in charge 5 years.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****


Well, that is certainly one way to look at it. Another would be to look
at Gods' chosen people ... they tend to respond to missile attacks with
missiles.

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 7th 10 08:18 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/7/2010 12:13 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
Are you talking about people who returned to the scene of their crimes without
waiting for their god's forgiveness?


Actually, I thought it would be quite apparent, to most, that we are
talking jews and radical mooselums ... but then I remembered, you are
here ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 7th 10 08:20 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495 years of
child abuse.


I don't think the (or a church) has ever committed child
abuse/molestation/etc. It is always done by individuals. Same way the
schools are not actively engaged in molesting children, it is done by
individual teachers ... perhaps a group of them can get together to
perform their perversions ... who knows?

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 7th 10 08:23 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495 years of
child abuse.


I can see how you would naturally pose such a question though.
Homosexuals just seem naturally driven towards child molestation ... but
I think such behavior is pretty much specific to the mental disease of
homosexual-ism. And, relate are those bizarre trans-genitalia groups ...

Regards,
JS

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 7th 10 10:03 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 

On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495
years of
child abuse.


We don't pass the sins of the father onto the son..... that is NOT America.

It is why we don't Jail all the Socialists right now.


John Smith October 7th 10 10:21 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/7/2010 2:03 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

...
We don't pass the sins of the father onto the son..... that is NOT America.

It is why we don't Jail all the Socialists right now.


We certainly don't blame the police department for cops who molest
children, beat their wives, engage in crime, etc.

No, we don't blame churches for the actions of those who have deceived
us and lurk like wolves in sheeps' clothing ... they are nothing but
vile trojan horses ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 8th 10 12:58 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/7/2010 3:50 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
That's a yes, you won't object to 1495 years of child abuse.


Just be careful that type of logic doesn't turn into homosexual "type"
of insanity--where they point at everyone else around them claiming they
are doing worse and expect everyone to overlook their degenerate, weird,
sick, disgusting, un-human, etc. behavior!

That would be bad; That would be very, very bad ...

Regards,
JS

duke October 8th 10 01:07 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:08:13 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 10/7/2010 12:00 PM, duke wrote:

...
He's only been in charge 5 years.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****


Well, that is certainly one way to look at it. Another would be to look
at Gods' chosen people ... they tend to respond to missile attacks with
missiles.


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 8th 10 01:08 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:10:47 -0700, Project China Blue Book
wrote:

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:35:21 -0700, Project China Blue Book
wrote:

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 05:33:03 -0800, dave wrote:

RHF wrote:
Tell it to Ratzinger!

Sorry, he's already put a stop to such a mortal sin.


After a millenia and a half, it's about time.


He's only been in charge 5 years.


What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495 years of
child abuse.


No, I'm not, but then again I AM says that man who is a priest is the
problem, and not the priest who is a man.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 8th 10 01:09 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:20:46 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495 years of
child abuse.


I don't think the (or a church) has ever committed child
abuse/molestation/etc. It is always done by individuals. Same way the
schools are not actively engaged in molesting children, it is done by
individual teachers ... perhaps a group of them can get together to
perform their perversions ... who knows?


That's exactly the point. The problem is with the man and not the priest.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 8th 10 01:10 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:03:11 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495
years of
child abuse.


We don't pass the sins of the father onto the son..... that is NOT America.


But you do pass along his 10 fingers and 10 toes.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

dave October 8th 10 04:52 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


Bull****.

John Smith October 8th 10 05:48 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/8/2010 7:47 AM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
Except your church actively conspired to protect them and let them continue
their abuse.


Yep, and it is a real and constant danger. Tends to happen most in any
large corporation, institution and of course, our government is a prime
example ... the abuses my change, the cover-ups remain the same ...

Regards,
JS

RHF October 8th 10 06:54 PM

Idiots-R-Us : Which Part of Man {Adult Male} & Boy {Child Male} Love NAMBLA - Do You Not Understand To Be Child Molestation ?
 
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:23:32 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495 years of
child abuse.


I can see how you would naturally pose such a question though.
Homosexuals just seem naturally driven towards child molestation ... but
I think such behavior is pretty much specific to the mental disease of
homosexual-ism. And, relate are those bizarre trans-genitalia groups ...

Regards,
JS


Yes there is a History of Child Abuse/Exploitation/Molestation
by 'The Church' and Churches in general : Which also reflects
the same History of Child Abuse/Exploitation/Molestation in
the greater-society as a whole.

Some of this Abuse/Exploitation/Molestation is Hetrosexual
Pedophile by Adult Males upon underage Girls : Both in the
larger society and the churches.
-imho- Whether in Society or the Church these Adult Males
are Criminals.

Some of this Abuse/Exploitation/Molestation is Homosexual
Pedophile {NAMBLA} by Adult Males upon underage Boys :
Both in the larger society and the churches.
-imho- Whether in Society or the Church these Adult Males
are Criminals.

Remember that when you are Condemming 'The Church'
you are also Condemming Society as a whole . . .

Oops You Yourself are a Member of Society and
-and- Yes You Are Condemming Yourself . . .

Which Part of Man {Adult Male} & Boy {Child Male} Love
NAMBLA - Do You Not Understand To Be Child Molestation ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9db7a0e44c15b8

My Name October 8th 10 07:14 PM

Allan Ginsburg, is the late Jew poet and leading member of NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association but, he is not alone! Check out these other HOMOSEXUAL jews
 
dave related :

Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all,
that the radical homosexual movement in the United States
is a Jewish movement.

Jews created it and run it from top to bottom.
They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease,
sin and sickness through America like a wildfire.

Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis

Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist.

Moisés Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee of GLAAD.

Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist journalist, writer."

Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate [1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."

Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA] national board member.

Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi Germany.

Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors. Mitchell Gold -- HRC Board Marty Lieberman -- HRC BoardAndy Linsky -- HRC BoardDana Perlman -- HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green -- HRC Associate Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] -- President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, DC.

Barney Frank -- member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel -- executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund -- and -- the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn -- Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] -- Treasurer, GLAAD Judy Gluckstern -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Stephen M. Jacoby -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Matt Riklin -- Board, GLAADCarol Rosenfeld -- Board, GLAAD.William Weinberger -- Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler -- Board, GLAAD. David Huebner -- GLAAD Counsel.

Richard Goldstein -- Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler -- Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin -- Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill -- Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein -- Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin -- lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen -- a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst -- long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs: Marty Seldman, president

"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: ..... Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer -- Director of Training [political training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman -- Board of Directors, NGLTF. Beth Zemsky -- Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer -- Treasurer, NGLTF. Jeff Levi -- first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project

Martin Duberman -- author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist [one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights organization].

Susan Spielman -- principal/head of Common Ground, an education/consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.

Gertrude Stein -- wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in 1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff -- founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman -- founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial Network; president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin -- New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick -- GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler -- American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura" campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist, molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] -- co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons -- American professor, journalist, and founder of the National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams -- American physician, HIV expert, medical marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) -- [Canadian]; archivist of the International Jewish GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official; appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out Day [October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy [ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Surina Kahn -- American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler -- founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England.

Kathy Levinson -- American investor and philanthropist; serves on the board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light -- actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner -- gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage -- American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] -- founder and coordinator of the Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] -- American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian cable TV network.

Rex Wockner -- longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news for the gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher -- became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine [1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American Man Boy Love Association.

Source: NFW

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/cont.../28/8347.shtml

Posted March 2, 2010

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1267563866
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But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. The light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead,
and Christ shall give thee light. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 8th 10 07:49 PM

Giving up on your life, that's suicide NOT passivism.
 
On 10/8/2010 3:04 PM, dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:




So letting someone gut you like a pig with a knife and you not trying to
continue to live is suicide. It's giving up on life and that's suicide
NOT passivism.


I've never been gutted by a pig with a knife, but it does sound
deliciously ironic.


**** happens.

dave October 8th 10 08:04 PM

Giving up on your life, that's suicide NOT passivism.
 
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:




So letting someone gut you like a pig with a knife and you not trying to
continue to live is suicide. It's giving up on life and that's suicide
NOT passivism.


I've never been gutted by a pig with a knife, but it does sound
deliciously ironic.

duke October 9th 10 08:10 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:00:11 -0700, Project China Blue Book
wrote:

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:08:13 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 10/7/2010 12:00 PM, duke wrote:

...
He's only been in charge 5 years.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Well, that is certainly one way to look at it. Another would be to look
at Gods' chosen people ... they tend to respond to missile attacks with
missiles.


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


No, it's not. That particular perversion of the gospels was invented to let the
church become the state religion of Rome.


How would you know?

The emperor wouldn't establish church
that didn't let him continue his wars;


Sorry, a few poor Christians couldn't help him.

the church whored itself to the emperor
in exchange for secular power. The catholic church continues to whore itself,
just like many protestants whored themselves to Republicans.




The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 9th 10 08:11 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:

duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


Bull****.


He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. Heeheehee

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 9th 10 08:12 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:47:31 -0700, Project China Blue Book
wrote:

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:20:46 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495
years of
child abuse.


I don't think the (or a church) has ever committed child
abuse/molestation/etc. It is always done by individuals. Same way the
schools are not actively engaged in molesting children, it is done by
individual teachers ... perhaps a group of them can get together to
perform their perversions ... who knows?


That's exactly the point. The problem is with the man and not the priest.


Except your church actively conspired to protect them and let them continue
th


Nope, we the Church demanded the problem be cleaned up, and so it was.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 9th 10 08:14 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:46:20 -0700, Project China Blue Book
wrote:

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:03:11 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495
years of
child abuse.

We don't pass the sins of the father onto the son..... that is NOT America.


But you do pass along his 10 fingers and 10 toes.


Your church also passed along 1495 years of child abuse, but, hey! what's passed
is passed and no need to think about it.


Nope. The problem didn't start until about the 1950's-1970's and began a
rapid decline in the 1980's.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke October 9th 10 08:14 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 20:47:18 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen
wrote:

On Oct 7, 12:23*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/7/2010 12:10 PM, Project China Blue Book wrote:

...
What you're saying is you'll give your church a pass on the other 1495 years of
child abuse.


I can see how you would naturally pose such a question though.
Homosexuals just seem naturally driven towards child molestation ...


No moreso than any other group, Gays just get more press when they do
it because its so sensational. Plenty of "straight" molestation too.
All disgusting, though.


Gays don't chase children, they chase men.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 9th 10 08:57 PM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/9/2010 3:11 PM, duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:

duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


Bull****.


He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. Heeheehee


Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


Caesar/Obama they seem like they would both take their people down the
same road to destruction.






Clave[_3_] October 10th 10 02:10 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 


"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
On 10/9/2010 3:11 PM, duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:

duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


Bull****.


He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. Heeheehee


Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


There were dozens of Caesars, dumbass. Did you have a particular one or
more in mind?

Jim




[email protected] October 10th 10 02:52 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Oct 9, 3:20*pm, Project China Blue Book
wrote:
In article ,

*duke wrote:
Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


No, it's not. That particular perversion of the gospels was invented to let
the
church become the state religion of Rome.


How would you know? *


Unlike you, I'm educated.

--
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. * * * * * I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? * * * At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. * * May your creator bless and keep you.


Constantine was one of the first Christian emperors that established
it as a state religion. The country was called Eastern Roman Empire.

[email protected] October 10th 10 02:57 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Oct 9, 4:42*pm, Project China Blue Book
wrote:
In article ,
*Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

On 10/9/2010 3:11 PM, duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:


duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


Bull****.


He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. *Heeheehee


Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


It outlasted Jerusalem and the temple.

--
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. * * * * * I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? * * * At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? * *Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. * * May your creator bless and keep you.


Both Rome and Jerusalem are alive . But not the Temple,unfortunately.
The Moslems claim it as their domain.

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 10th 10 02:58 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On 10/9/2010 9:10 PM, Clave wrote:
"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
On 10/9/2010 3:11 PM, duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:

duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.

Bull****.

He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. Heeheehee


Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


There were dozens of Caesars, dumbass. Did you have a particular one or
more in mind?


Yes and dozens of reasons that Romans don't run the planet.


[email protected] October 10th 10 02:59 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
On Oct 9, 9:10*pm, "Clave" wrote:
"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
...

On 10/9/2010 3:11 PM, duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:


duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.


Bull****.


He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes, soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. *Heeheehee


Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


There were dozens of Caesars, dumbass. *Did you have a particular one or
more in mind?

Jim


Caligula+Nero. Two imbeciles. Most of our leaders aren't that bright
either ...

dave October 10th 10 04:05 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:


Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


Caesar/Obama they seem like they would both take their people down the
same road to destruction.

They outgrew their infrastructure. That never happens nowadays.

Clave[_3_] October 10th 10 05:10 AM

Man/Boy Love Association=The Church
 


"Bore Me To Tears Scotty"
wrote in message ...
On 10/9/2010 9:10 PM, Clave wrote:
"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote
in
message ...
On 10/9/2010 3:11 PM, duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:52:08 -0800, dave wrote:

duke wrote:


Self defense is in line with God's teachings.

Bull****.

He told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (taxes,
soldiers,
self defense, etc) and unto God that which is God's. Heeheehee

Caesar took so much, that Rome didn't survive it.


There were dozens of Caesars, dumbass. Did you have a particular one or
more in mind?


Yes and dozens of reasons that Romans don't run the planet.


Cheap backpedal.

Jim





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