On Oct 3, 11:28*am, John Smith wrote:
On 10/3/2010 9:13 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

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* are you saying that children can identify a scam quicker than a adult
can

NO! *I am saying a child can recognize reason and logic quicker than YOU
can ...



then ask any child which they would want, gold to hold, or money to
spend. i bet i know which one will win.


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* BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! gold is
not money. you figured it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now what
happens when money is in short supply? why, the owners of assets sell
said assets, to raise scarce cash to pay bills. and they snicker at
those who over pay for a asset in deflationary times. like gold bugs,
who are being goosed into over paying for a commodity used in
electronics and jewelery.

Gold = money.


yes, like any other commodity. except, commodities have wild swings
up and down. if you over pay, watch out.

*Indeed, there can be no money without precious metals or
things of value.

that is a lie. society has used all sort of things as money, even sea
shells. and it has nothing to do with metals. money is simply the
lubricant or lifeblood for a economy.

*The money only represents the gold.


lie. money represents the life blood of a economy.

*You can back
money with other things, those other things just don't have a lifespan
of eternity ...

nether does gold. cash was king during the great depression so far
all you have parroted to me are conservative/libertarian talking
points for the indoctrinated. try some real empirical evidence. while
you are at it, try a intervention, cults can be broken.


indeed, you can back money with a promise ... and that
promise can have a very short lifespan, indeed!


same with gold backed money. its not worth the paper its printed on.


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* then little green pieces of paper, mean more to them than gold

That logic is why I consider you insane ... and a damn good example at that!



then why are they willing to sell you their precious gold for little
green pieces of paper, and since they are the same scammers who are
scaring you, you would think they would walk the talk. you still have
not answered me why they are willing to sell their money for paper,
when its obvious that the fiat currency is going to collapse. only a
fool would sell their money for paper then.


* *Gold,
for the most part, stays in places such as fort knox (yeah, I know, it
is empty, or else someone elses gold is stored there) or the large
holdings in china, middle east, etc. in large storage areas. *Just like
people with money, people with gold have to trade part of their wealth
for things they purchase. *People also go broke on large gambles, and
supplies of gold come onto the market.

* you are making my arguments, thank you so very much.

Indeed, at least you agree with me here ...



yep, you do not even understand what you have done.



Gold is a way to secure and hold wealth in a stable form, where years,
decades, centuries, etc. it can be liquidated and spent and used.

* that is not true. it can hold wealth sometimes, sometimes it leads to
massive wealth loss. and it pays no income or dividends, its a very
poor way to hold wealth. anyone who bought gold in the early 80's can
testify to that.

You attempt to make gold and the actions and transactions surrounding
gold one and the same ... they are not ... gold is gold ... paper is
paper ... scams are scams ... other than money being a representation of
gold, a heavy substance hard to carry, gold has little to do with scams
which can be created to steal wealth or the fact a dollar actual worth
is the paper and ink ...



you are a tower testament to the on going gold is money scam. gold is
a commodity like copper, oil, etc. it has its uses, it can be a store
of value, but its not money. and the prices wildly go up and down.


* this article says it all, you still have not beaten a checking
account.

gold is a lousy investment, cash is scare in a deflating economy, cash
is king:since 1980:Gold Can’t Beat Checking Accounts 30 Years After
Peak, average U.S. checking account rose at least 92 percent. On an
inflation-adjusted basis, gold investors are still 79 percent away
from getting their money back

Gold is an excellent investment to hold wealth in a stable form, indeed,
only precious metals will work for that. *An OZ of gold in 1849 would
buy a very nice suit, today in 2010 it still will buy that very nice
suit ... indeed, it will even buy a nicer suit today. *A $20 bill might
buy you a polyester tie to go with that suit (and look tacky!)



i already debunked that scam.


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All the rest of your crap is mainly obfuscation meant to tire one out
and you win by "the last man standing rule." *Lose that childs' ploy to
be taken seriously ... a fool needs a book to describe his point(s), a
wiseman a paragraph ...

Regards,
JS

On Oct 3, 11:31*am, John Smith wrote:
On 10/3/2010 9:20 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

* ...

More tiring obfuscation and desperation ...

Truth is, dig up an old Roman gold coin, it will still hold near the
same value it had back then ... dig up the first gold coin ever created,
it will still hold near the value it was given then.


i am glad you brought up rome. rome was a super power till it went on
the gold standard, then it was all down hill from there. when they
used copper, they did really well. they paid their bills. once on
gold, the economy started to deflate.


You won't be digging up any dollars from then ... but it you did manage,
they would only have a collectors value ... they financial worth would
be ZERO!



really. ever hear of the antiques market? antiques are a commodity,
just like gold.


Regards,
JS

On 10/3/2010 10:10 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

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i already debunked that scam.
...

Indeed, we stand at such opposite odds, you are not even on radar ...

Carry on ... it is America, you can choose to cry your message ... to
those who will pay attention. I am afraid, I no longer can.

Regards,
JS

On 10/3/2010 10:14 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

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Carry on ... somewhere, someone will find it rational ... I don't.

Regards,
JS

On Oct 2, 10:31*pm, Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 2, 11:38*pm, RHF wrote:

*you are simply projecting again.

- *the GOP, its not fascism when we do itBack to the ‘30s:how the
GOP
- uses Nazi techniques to rally the*mob:New agencies all the world
over
- are for the most part in the hands of Jews:If you substitute liberal
- for jew you have the same language

NnUa,

So "Fascism" can ONLY be Define and Understood
in the Text of 'Mein Kampf'; the NAZI Propaganda
and Germany of the 1920s/30s/40s . . .

Fascism has not evolved since then . . .

Political Thought has not evolved since then . . .

Political Theory has not evolved since then . . .

Society has not evolved since then . . .

The World has not evolved since then . . .

Words have not evolved since then . . .

The Means of Words have not evolved since then . . .

SO WE ARE ALL FOREVER STUCK IN THE
'MEIM KAMPF' NAZI GERMANY IN THE 1920s

RHF wrote:
On Oct 2, 2:22 pm, Nickname wrote:
On Oct 2, 2:24 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse wrote:

The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did, All over Germany, thugs in brown shirts took possession of
the streets and roughed up Communists, socialists, and Jews; they
chased socialist mayors and officials out of government buildings

NnUa,

So "Fascism" can ONLY be Define and Understood
in the Context of the NAZIs and Germany of the
1920s/30s/40s . . .

Fascism has not evolved since them . . .

Since the Romans, dumbass.

On Oct 3, 12:22*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/3/2010 10:10 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

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* i already debunked that scam.
...

Indeed, we stand at such opposite odds, you are not even on radar ...

Carry on ... it is America, you can choose to cry your message ... to
those who will pay attention. *I am afraid, I no longer can.

Regards,
JS

fine, that is the beauty of america. we can ignore, or we can learn.
you are free to do either.

On Oct 3, 2:01*pm, RHF wrote:


except, you have only shown us your own personal opinion, and one
from a crank. nothing credible here.

On 10/3/2010 12:40 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:

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And there is the insane hatred of the right wing fascist.


Just toss it in with my insane dislike of homosexuals and bill me later ...

Regards,
JS

On Oct 3, 2:39*pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Oct 3, 12:53*am, RHF wrote:

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/ency...sm_and_Nazism/

* *• * * Socialism and Nazism

Nazism is socialism like the Democratic Republic of Korea is a Democracy.


correct, and only fools believe that. hitler tried to fool the german
workers, many of them knew better.

--
Ray Fischer * * * *
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