In Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

On 10/3/2010 2:13 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
RHF wrote:
Here are the Three (3) Phases of Liberal Decay :

Fascists hate liberalism.

If true, why do *Liberals act like Fascists* and attempt to
micromanage our lives to the point that the Liberals want to tell us
if and when and how much salt, sugar and saturated fats we can eat
with laws and regulations coming from Liberals?

Rather than trying to directly equate (contemporary American) liberals
and fascists, it's more useful to find the common defining factor that
they both share.

Ultimately, they're both at least authoritarian, trending toward
totalitarian if they get the chance.

So, saying that (contemporary American) liberals and facists are both
authoritarian is a clearer statement that's more easily understood.

Of course, you have to be sure to include the fact that (contemporary
American) conservatives are also authoritarian.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

On 10/2/2010 9:06 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/2/2010 5:32 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

...
who is ignoring that. wages have risen along with prices. gold goes
up in price, gold falls in price. suckers who bought gold in the early
80's, still have not recouped their losses. its a poor investment,
pays no dividends, makes no income, and is only valuable for
electronics and jewelery.


Regards,
JS


Wrong, again ... up until the 1960's, or around there, it was
universally known in America, the rule, "A fair days pay for a fair days
work." This is no longer so ...

Minimum wage, still in 1970, would buy you about 10 gallons of gas--it
was $1.65 p/hr; Gas is now 10x as much. A fair 1 bedroom apartment
would run you ~$80.00 a month--utilities included; Today, it would cost
you in excess of 10x as much. A nice new car would run you
$1,800-$2,000; Today, a car of "equal" value would be 10x as much.

The point to all the above? For minimum wage to have kept up with
inflation, minimum would have to be ~$16.50 p/hr.

Dial 1-800-Mexican Slave Labor....


Here is a hint, your house was $30,000 it went up to $180,000 it's now
$130,000


Government is killing the little guy.



Liberals want to help us all, right to the poor house.

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 10/2/2010 9:06 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/2/2010 5:32 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

...
who is ignoring that. wages have risen along with prices. gold goes
up in price, gold falls in price. suckers who bought gold in the early
80's, still have not recouped their losses. its a poor investment,
pays no dividends, makes no income, and is only valuable for
electronics and jewelery.


Regards,
JS


Wrong, again ... up until the 1960's, or around there, it was
universally known in America, the rule, "A fair days pay for a fair days
work." This is no longer so ...

Minimum wage, still in 1970, would buy you about 10 gallons of gas--it
was $1.65 p/hr; Gas is now 10x as much. A fair 1 bedroom apartment
would run you ~$80.00 a month--utilities included; Today, it would cost
you in excess of 10x as much. A nice new car would run you
$1,800-$2,000; Today, a car of "equal" value would be 10x as much.

The point to all the above? For minimum wage to have kept up with
inflation, minimum would have to be ~$16.50 p/hr.

Dial 1-800-Mexican Slave Labor....

Here is a hint, your house was $30,000 it went up to $180,000 it's now
$130,000

Government is killing the little guy.

Parroting the same old rightard idiocy doesn't really prove anything.

Liberals want to help us all, right to the poor house.

How's the GOP recession working for you, rightard?










--
Ray Fischer

On Oct 3, 2:35*pm, Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 3, 11:37*am, John Smith wrote:



On 10/3/2010 9:21 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

...
* the free market is a feverish cult, like all cults, reality will
never trump ideology.

Regards,
JS

Free market? *There is no such thing, hasn't been for half a century or
more. *Just start looking at the rules and regulations which cause the
system to be molded in fine detail and you will know this is fact ...
the tax code itself consists of many volumes and stacked, vertically,
upon the floor, stands taller than me, I suspect ... and the is but a
tiny fraction of the rules and regulations governing wealth, finances,
banking, commerce, etc. ... get real.

Regards,
JS

- *you poor sot, please prove that regulation caused the housing
bubble,
- or the derivative bubble, or the to big to fail banks after the
repeal
- of glass-steagle. you really got it bad. i can make you a rich man
if
- you can prove that regulation was the cause of the housing bubble.

Democrat 'Crafted' Regulation Was In-Fact The
Cause of the Housing Bubble and Toxic Loans :

Proof No. 1
barney frank [d] , , ,
Barney Frank [D] . . .
BARNEY FRANK [D] ! ! !

Proof No. 2
chris dodd [d] , , ,
Chris Dodd [D] . . .
CHRIS DODD ! ! !

Proof No. 3
community redevelopment act [dcc] , , ,
Community Redevelopment Act [DCC] . . .
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT ACT ! ! !

Proof No. 4
tarp bill [dcc] , , ,
TARP Bill [DCC] . . .
TARP BILL [DCC] ! ! !
* TARP = "Troubled Asset Relief Program"

Proof No. 5
obama stimulus bill [dcc] , , ,
Obama Stimulus Bill [DCC] . . .
OBAMA STIMULUS BILL [DCC] ! ! !

Proof No. 6
blame prez obama he is weak and inept , , ,
Blame Prez Obama He Is Weak and Inept . . .
BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE IS WEEK AND INEPT ! ! !
-translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter

Proof No. 7
blame prez obama he has failed the american people , , ,
Blame Prez Oama He Has Failed The American People , , ,
BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE HAS FAILED THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE TIME AND TIME AGAIN ! ! !
-translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
Michael Coburn wrote:


What separates fascism from socialism is its elevation of the state (and
a state religion) above the people. In true socialism the state manages
the resources on the part of the people. That would be the case in
either "democratic socialism" OR Marxian socialism. The difference in
these two contenders is the insistence of the Marxists that the managing
entity called the state must be installed by forcible overthrowing the
current oligarchy. All the crap about worldwide versus nation states is
exactly that: crap. Communism is anarchy in its proposed form and that
state of being is a myth such as a unicorn. Some power will arise to
enforce the ideals of communism in spite of anything the people might
want. And none of this crap has anything at all to do with social
democracy which is capitalism with a rational welfare state.


Or democratic socialism, like Bernie Sanders.

If you destroy the credibility of language, the field is open to the likes
of Sarah Palin and Roy Fisk, who have faith in wordy things.

Lest we forget, Orwell's "Big Brother" used the dumbing down and perversion
of the language to facilitate a totalitarian state...

On Oct 3, 3:06*pm, Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 3, 4:04*pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:



RHF wrote:
On Oct 2, 11:18*pm, Nickname unavailable wrote:
On Oct 3, 1:13*am, (Ray Fischer) wrote:

RHF wrote:
Here are the Three (3) Phases of Liberal Decay :

Fascists hate liberalism.

- *correct. its something the conservatives cannot explain away. in
- fact, we know that fascism is the final decay of conservatism. they
- are simply projecting again.

NnUa - More/Most Correct :

"Liberal-Fascism" Something the Liberals and

Fascists hate liberalism.

-*yep, they cannot explain away why the nazi government was full of
- prominent conservatives, and they killed every liberal they could
get
- their hands on.

--
Ray Fischer * * * *
*

Three (3) Phases To Liberal-Fascist Power :
Ending in Total Fascist-Socialism©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...424e411a0b81c1

1st -Socialist Unity- They Work With Liberals and
Progressives to Eliminate their Common Political
Opponents {Non-Socialists}

2nd -Socialist Purity- They Next Work To Eliminate
The Liberals and Progressives as being a socially
corrupting influence preventing Social Progress.

At-this-Point : The Liberals has served their short
term limited purpose in gaining Power. Plus the
Liberals and other Socialist were viewed as being
'sympathetic' to the USSR; and thus an Internal
Security Risk to the NAZI Party's Power and
Control of 'The State' and the War.

The 'Conservative' Business Interests were still
needed and necessary for the War*. Had the
NAZI's Won the War : Then some/many of the
'Conservative' Business Interests would have been
'consolidated' under direct Party Control and
'The Expendable' expended.

3rd -Socialist Totality- One Party Rule :
Of 'The Party' & By 'The Party' & For 'The Party'
-result- Total Fascist-Socialism

On Oct 10, 2:09*pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 3, 2:47*pm, Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 3, 11:58*am, John Smith wrote:

On 10/3/2010 9:51 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

* man, you got it bad. the idiot just said the constitution was fascist.

He did say this, "Anyone who is not a
ComuSexual-(Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Communist) is a Fascist
according to Useful Liberal Idiots."

I can sum it all up, and more, with less, "You are a fool. *You are an
excellent example, in the reverse ..."

Regards,
JS

- *if you embrace fascism, do not be to surprised if you are labeled
- one. you just threw the constitution into the garbage, and wanted to
- kill your opponents. something that fascists, as well as marxist are
- really good at.
- *i see little difference between a free market economy(fascism), and
a
- communist economy(marxism), in either system, almost all wealth and
- power ends up in the hands of a few.

- Obama-U-Nism© = Fascism = Communism
- -result- almost all wealth and power ends up
- in the hands of a few rich socialist elitists.
- *.
- blame prez obama he is weak and inept , , ,
- Blame Prez Obama He Is Weak and Inept . . .
- BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE IS WEEK AND INEPT ! ! !
- -translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter
- .
- blame prez obama he is ineffective and has failed
- the american people , , ,
- Blame Prez Oama He Is Ineffective And Has Failed
- The American People . . .
- BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE IS INEFFECTIVE AND
- HAS FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TIME AND
- TIME AGAIN ! ! !
- -translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter
- .
- The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...12034ac6eb845e
- has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate ! ~ RHF
- -wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
- Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric Back-In-Their-Face - YEAH !
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4233710fcaf542
- .
- *.

Idiots-R-Us : Blame Prez Obama He Is Weak and Inept . . .
It's Time To Give BHO and the Democrats The Boot !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e4933d3efd2950

blame prez obama he is ineffective and has failed
the american people time and time again , , ,

Blame Prez Oama He Is Ineffective And Has Failed
The American People Time And Time Again . . .

BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE IS INEFFECTIVE AND
HAS FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TIME AND
TIME AGAIN ! ! !

- -translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter

Idiot's-R-Us :
Prez Obama's Major Fault is . . .
Barack Obama 'The Man' Is An ELITIST !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1a90a7d787fcf7

On Oct 14, 1:53*am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 10, 2:09*pm, RHF wrote:



On Oct 3, 2:47*pm, Nickname unavailable wrote: On Oct 3, 11:58*am, John Smith wrote:

On 10/3/2010 9:51 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

* man, you got it bad. the idiot just said the constitution was fascist.

He did say this, "Anyone who is not a
ComuSexual-(Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Communist) is a Fascist
according to Useful Liberal Idiots."

I can sum it all up, and more, with less, "You are a fool. *You are an
excellent example, in the reverse ..."

Regards,
JS

- *if you embrace fascism, do not be to surprised if you are labeled
- one. you just threw the constitution into the garbage, and wanted to
- kill your opponents. something that fascists, as well as marxist are
- really good at.
- *i see little difference between a free market economy(fascism), and
a
- communist economy(marxism), in either system, almost all wealth and
- power ends up in the hands of a few.

- Obama-U-Nism© = Fascism = Communism
- -result- almost all wealth and power ends up
- in the hands of a few rich socialist elitists.
- *.
- blame prez obama he is weak and inept , , ,
- Blame Prez Obama He Is Weak and Inept . . .
- BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE IS WEEK AND INEPT ! ! !
- -translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter
- .
- blame prez obama he is ineffective and has failed
- the american people , , ,
- Blame Prez Oama He Is Ineffective And Has Failed
- The American People . . .
- BLAME PREZ OBAMA HE IS INEFFECTIVE AND
- HAS FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TIME AND
- TIME AGAIN ! ! !
- -translation- Prez Obama is a One-Termer like Carter
- .
- The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
-http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b612034ac6eb845e
- has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate ! ~ RHF
- -wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
- Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric Back-In-Their-Face - YEAH !
-http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d24233710fcaf542
- .
- *.

Now The Obama White House is 'hinting' at Blaming
US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] for all of the
Nation's Problems and Economic Failures; cause She
has headed-up the Democrat Controlled US House
since 2007 and it's All Her {Their} Fault.

but,,, But... BUT ! ! ! - Please Don't Blame Prez Obama

?Q? What's next from the Obama White House
-hint- Blame Harry Reid [D-NV] and the Democrat
Controlled US Senate since 2007 and it's All His
{Their} Fault Too

but,,, But... BUT ! ! ! - Please Don't Blame Prez Obama

I ought to make a big hypnotism thingy, about eight feet in diameter
with a little electric motor to spin it around and around.The kind with
a spiral on it, and put it on my front porch.Those people around here
would stare at it all day long.
cuhulin