On 01/03/2011 02:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, wrote:

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.

"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.

I call that "self defense"!

On 1/3/2011 6:22 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/03/2011 02:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, wrote:

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.

"WE' own that spectrum, and WE have determined that using OUR
"spectrum" for promotion of lies, distortion, slander and political
ignorance MUST be regulated.

I call that "self defense"!


I call it infringing on my right to listen to what ever I want, now will
you also demand that an auditorium filled with people allow equal
heckling when one side heckles more than the other....?

On Jan 2, 1:46*pm, dave wrote:

- - On 01/03/2011 12:28 PM, RHF wrote:
- - Just keeping everything fair and balanced with
- - their being Six (6) times as many NPR FM
- - Radio Stations as AM Talk Radio Stations.

- There are 273 NPR stations in the USA.
- EIB alone has twice as many affiliates, dumbass.
-
- http://www.cephas-library.moc/nwo_re...odcasting.html

'Special-Dave' There Are "NO" National Public Radio
[NPR] Stations in the USA. NPR Owns "NO" Radio
Stations : The 'Local' Public Radio Stations that
'choose' to Affiliate with NPR and Broadcast NPR
Programming {Pure 100% Liberal Propaganda} are
in the Many Many Hundreds {Thousands?}.

'Special-Dave' : Keep Pumping Out the Liberal Lies.

The FCC Numbers Don't Lie : There are Six (6) Times
as many NPR 'Affiliated' FM Public Radio Stations
as AM Talk Radio Stations.

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Somebody in the rec.tech.autos newsgroup posted that one.
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On 1/3/2011 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, dave wrote:

There is no scarcity of light.

Sure there is, I have light in my yard and the neighbors and if I place
a light that shines on them that they don't want then those waves must
be regulated by the FCC and we also have light waves that transmit
digital information in their light pulse, so we could transmit
information and receive information over the light directed at the
neighbor and the neighbors lights or others lights could interfere with
light transmission of information on or across my property.


The FCC will need to regulate the lights on your property. And they
will also need to regulate content of information transmitted so that it
is all equal and NOT one sided.

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
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On 1/3/2011 5:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:57:43 +0800, dave wrote:

There is no scarcity of light.

Sure there is, I have light in my yard and the neighbors and if I place
a light that shines on them that they don't want then those waves must
be regulated by the FCC and we also have light waves that transmit
digital information in their light pulse, so we could transmit
information and receive information over the light directed at the
neighbor and the neighbors lights or others lights could interfere with
light transmission of information on or across my property.


The FCC will need to regulate the lights on your property. And they
will also need to regulate content of information transmitted so that it
is all equal and NOT one sided.

Wow.

There really is *no* issue that you can't reduce to the least common stupid.

On 1/2/2011 10:57 PM, dave wrote:
On 01/04/2011 02:38 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

You and I have "free speech" and if you want to use it on any media, all
it takes is money. If you want free speech that costs zero then get soap
box and stand in the town square. The Air waves don't belong to this
Nation any more than Germany owns the airwaves, does the government also
own all the limited light waves?

You said you can have all the free speech you can afford; that's nuts.
AM and FM radio are the soap box and the town square of today.

NO the soap box is still the soap box of today and Radio is a commercial
enterprise discovered and invented by private persons.
Government didn't have a clue radio waves were even useful.

The 14th
Amendment of the Constitution guarantees equal access to that town
square. The oligarchs must control all thought to prevail. You are
helping them.

That isn't a town square and the 14 says equal under the law.... there
is no power given to congress to make any law and therefore no 14th
amendment applied to radio waves.

There is no scarcity of light. The radio spectrum is part of the
commons, same as the air and the sidewalks downtown.

Light spectrum is scarce, if I use infrared on my property for one thing
then it could easily interfere with security or infrared cameras and
sensors elsewhere. lasers will transmit infrared for a long ways and
some lasers can burn and do damage to eyes and other things like CCDs.

On 01/05/2011 12:32 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:


Submission to tyranny as inevitable is as much a crime as the tyranny,
itself.

Citadel Broadcasting has shrunk your brain to the size of a walnut.

The only tyranny threatening the USA is the unregulated corporation
nonster tyranny.

"The other part of the story is the development of corporations, which
is an interesting story in itself. Adam Smith didn't say much about
them, but he did criticize the early stages of them. Jefferson lived
long enough to see the beginnings, and he was very strongly opposed to
them. But the development of corporations really took place in the early
twentieth century and very late in the nineteenth century. Originally,
corporations existed as a public service. People would get together to
build a bridge and they would be incorporated for that purpose by the
state. They built the bridge and that's it. They were supposed to have a
public interest function. Well into the 1870s, states were removing
corporate charters. They were granted by the state. They didn't have any
other authority. They were fictions. They were removing corporate
charters because they weren't serving a public function. But then you
get into the period of the trusts and various efforts to consolidate
power that were beginning to be made in the late nineteenth century.
It's interesting to look at the literature. The courts didn't really
accept it. There were some hints about it. It wasn't until the early
twentieth century that courts and lawyers designed a new socioeconomic
system. It was never done by legislation. It was done mostly by courts
and lawyers and the power they could exercise over individual states.
New Jersey was the first state to offer corporations any right they
wanted. Of course, all the capital in the country suddenly started to
flow to New Jersey, for obvious reasons. Then the other states had to do
the same thing just to defend themselves or be wiped out. It's kind of a
small-scale globalization. Then the courts and the corporate lawyers
came along and created a whole new body of doctrine which gave
corporations authority and power that they never had before. If you look
at the background of it, it's the same background that led to fascism
and Bolshevism. A lot of it was supported by people called progressives,
for these reasons: They said, individual rights are gone. We are in a
period of corporatization of power, consolidation of power,
centralization. That's supposed to be good if you're a progressive, like
a Marxist-Leninist. Out of that same background came three major things:
fascism, Bolshevism, and corporate tyranny. They all grew out of the
same more or less Hegelian roots. It's fairly recent. We think of
corporations as immutable, but they were designed. It was a conscious
design which worked as Adam Smith said: the principal architects of
policy consolidate state power and use it for their interests. It was
certainly not popular will. It's basically court decisions and lawyers'
decisions, which created a form of private tyranny which is now more
massive in many ways than even state tyranny was. These are major parts
of modern twentieth century history. The classical liberals would be
horrified. They didn't even imagine this. But the smaller things that
they saw, they were already horrified about. This would have totally
scandalized Adam Smith or Jefferson or anyone like that...."
-noam chomsky

On 01/05/2011 01:03 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 1/4/2011 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:09:36 -0600, "D. Peter Maus"

Again, if those are your criteria, then no political speech of
any kind would be permitted.

How is that consistent with accepted law?

You don't have the right to broadcast things that could cause panic
(yell "fire" in a theater), that's a regulated activity

But pulling the fire alarm is OK......


The courts say broadcasters have the right to lie to you. That is
something that screams for a common sense legislative remedy, as part of
a bigger effort to make the radio airwaves more responsive to the needs
of their listeners.