On 03/04/2011 11:01 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/4/11 12:24 , bpnjensen wrote:



The people will swallow the cum of the plutocrats just so long before
they will begin to understand they've been had.

That's always true. And it's always true, Bruce. In fact, it's why the
Dems were swept out of office, in the first place. There's nothing that
says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of
Wisconsin are behind the Governor.

You must get your news from the TV or WLS. 6 out of 10 Wisconsinites do
not support the governor. 7 out of 10 Americans support organized labor.
The Republicans are on another stupid right-wing power trip. They always
over-reach. Without fail. The People are awake.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...gov-walker.php

"dave" wrote in message
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On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote:


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There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc.



Outside money?

No, unions give exclusively to the Dems.

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can go places your snazzy cars can't go.
I, myself, can't hardly go nowhar.
cuhulin

On 03/04/2011 03:02 PM, MNMikew wrote:
wrote in message
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On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote:


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There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc.



Outside money?

No, unions give exclusively to the Dems.


You live in the bubble!

You live in the bubble!

On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote:

There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc.

wrote:

Outside money?

On 3/4/2011 6:02 PM, MNMikew wrote:

No, unions give exclusively to the Dems.

Um, you seem to be overlooking something quite obvious. There -is- other
"outside money" than from the unions, you know.

Have you forgotten that the Supreme Court ruled that Big Business can
give an infinite amount money to political parties and candidates. And
that Big Business has waaay deeper pockets than the unions could ever
hope to have. That Big Business money might go a long way towards
explaining why "the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc".

Oh. What's that you say? You -did- overlook that fact.

On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

That's always true. And it's always true, Bruce. In fact, it's why the
Dems were swept out of office, in the first place.

Hmmm, you don't think that all the money the Supreme Court said Big
Business could throw into the political pot had anything to do with it?

There's nothing that
says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of
Wisconsin are behind the Governor.

Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street
Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be
allowed to have collective bargaining.

At least right now. And the Dems In
Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections
to remove the Dems from office.

To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from
office.

Which, actually, may be unnecessary. If they remain out of the state
long enough, they'll run afoul of existing laws and will lose their
offices, anyway. And that deadline is closing fast. They claim they're
working, while away, and are protected from the desertion clauses, but
that may be sophistry. If they claim they're working, but are not
available (in mass, yet), to vote on pending legislation, then the law
says they're not working. And the people are in agreement.

But here's the part that's really sticking in the public craw...The
Democrats are remaining out of state to avoid facing a vote they will
most certainly lose.

They may well lose, but they are trying to stick up for the middle
class. Let me give you an analogy: What about all the farmers that had
to paint their barn or plow the back 40? When George Washington came to
raise an army, it was a good thing for all of us that the back 40 took a
back seat.

As you seem to be on the side of Governor Walker, let me present you
with some facts and ask you a question…

*Apparently, you see no problem with teachers, nurses, librarians,
policemen and firemen losing their rights. Do you think they are just
supposed to blindly accept longer hours, possibly lower wages, larger
class sizes, whatever management can get away with? Basically, "My way
or the highway". Somehow, I don't think -you- would tolerate that.

*What about Walker trying to *ram rod* through in record time this bill
that also has a NO-BID clause for the state’s power plants. This should
be patently illegal for either party. “No-bid” is just an invitation for
corruption.

*Even though the “David Koch” was a fake, the point is that Walker
–believed- he was real. Legitimate people with legitimate government
business cannot get through to the governor on the first call and get 20
minutes of his uninterrupted time like "Koch" did. This would seem to
indicate that Walker thinks the Koch brothers are his true bosses.

*In this same bill, Walker is removing the salary income price cap on
vouchers for private schools. This would allow children of the wealthy
to attend private schools at tax payer's expense. Maybe you think this
is OK. Oh, I forgot. It seems this is consistent with the Republican
Standard Operating Procedure of taking away from the middle class and
poor and giving it to the wealthy. (Ask Lare about his Republican
Michigan governor giving Big Business two billion dollars and taking it
away from school children and the elderly pensioners -- and then having
the gall to call it "shared" sacrifice).

I know you are strongly Republican and apparently a big Walker
supporter, but how can you tolerate the unethical, sleazy facts above
that Walker is trying to pull?

I drove 2 1/2 Ton Army Combat ammo trucks when I was in Vietnam.How bout
that for SUVs.Three axels all wheel drive, shove that lever (the other
lever was was for slappin it in all wheels three axels drive) down for
Granmaw Gear.Looka here, in the Monsoon season, trucks would be almost
floatin on that mud on their bellies and still keep on going! just like
Toyotas.

2 1/2 Ton Army Trucks (SUVs) RULE!
I still have my old Army Drivers License, a day or two later, Seargent
Bates handed me a Vietnam Drivers License.I still have it too.
cuhulin, the 2 1/2 Ton Army Truck

On Mar 4, 10:20*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
dxAce wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 3, 3:48 pm, *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 3, 3:34 pm, *wrote:
wrote:
Breaking: Live ammunition found outside Wisconsin Capitol Building
http://www.libertypost.org

How far outside? Was it in a State Troopers Belt?

Ya know, I heard something today, briefly, about those damn
Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist's up in Wisconsin (on the other side of The
Cheddar Curtain), being possibly detained, AND, being brought back to the
Capitol in chains to be present to vote.

Yes, but common decency trumps greed...

Spare me, Bruce. The only 'greedy' in this case are the public sector unions...

I'll be LMFAO if the Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist's are indeed brought back in chains.

I hope the revolution succeeds.

LOL. *You're on the wrong side of everything.

I'm just guessing, but are you a member of a 'public sector union'?

On 3/3/2011 7:25 PM, dxAce wrote:

Embarrassed? Heck, I'm proud to state that I was once a member of the IAM, (a private sector Union).

Workers are workers, public or private sector. So if someone has a
public sector boss, that makes them a
"Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist" and they have no rights? And you,
being a "proud" member of a private union, are not a
"Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist" and -do- have rights?

Gee, do you think your neighbors, all those teachers, nurses,
librarians, garbage truck drivers, policemen and firemen that want a
fair shake (JUST like the 'private' union folks do) realize that they
are "Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists"? How dare those people want
rights.

Why is a private union something to be proud of and being in a public
union, according to you, makes you a
"Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist"? I would appreciate you explaining
the difference.

JfK,

All City and State Workers should have the Same
{Equal} Rights as Prez "BO" {Obama} Gives US
Federal Government Employees [.]
-and- Nothing More -aka- The Basic Right To Have A
Union and Organizes To Redress Their Grievances :
NOT Pay !
NOT Benefits !
NOT Seniority !
NOT Hours of Work !
NOT Working Conditions !
Just Simply to have a 'Union'. {and Pay Dues}
Just Simply to Address Their Grievances.

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On 11-03-04 04:51 PM, wrote:

Arra, my Four Legged Drive Dish Washer Blue Heeler Australian Cattle Dog
http://www.cattledog.com http://www.acdca.org
can go places your snazzy cars can't go.


Very true, but would you really like to see a Chevy sniffing the exhaust
pipe of the car in front of it?



mike





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On 11-03-04 12:40 PM, dave wrote:
On 03/04/2011 10:48 AM, wrote:
You betcher ass those 'elections' are Rigged!
cuhulin


They can only rig them a little. You have to have a "rig proof" majority
to win.

Rigging can also involve the pre-selection of the candidates made
available for you to choose from.


mike



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