On 3/5/2011 5:14 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
[...]

A lot of people seem to get confused between these two states. An
easy way to remember them is: Wisconsin = cheeseheads. Michigan =
(fewer and fewer) automobiles.


Yes... and never forget the motto of Detroit:

Where they make cars during the day -- and steel at night.

(You might have to say it out loud to get it.)


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On Mar 5, 5:55*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/4/11 19:28 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

There's nothing that
says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of
Wisconsin are behind the Governor.

Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street
Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be
allowed to have collective bargaining.

* *Interesting what you eliminate, when you quote these surveys. 77% of
the peeople believe public sector unions should have collective
bargaining privileges (it's a privilege, not a right), but that same
survey revealed that 60%+ believe that there should not be public sector
unions in the first place, and that 3:1 they believe that the budget
must be balanced and that public sector union benefits are to blame for
a lion's share of the shortfall.

* *So, again, the people are behind the Governor.



At least right now. And the Dems In
Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections
to remove the Dems from office.

To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from
office.

* *Interesting also what the skew is on that. But keep swinging, Joe.



Which, actually, may be unnecessary. If they remain out of the state
long enough, they'll run afoul of existing laws and will lose their
offices, anyway. And that deadline is closing fast. They claim they're
working, while away, and are protected from the desertion clauses, but
that may be sophistry. If they claim they're working, but are not
available (in mass, yet), to vote on pending legislation, then the law
says they're not working. And the people are in agreement.

But here's the part that's really sticking in the public craw...The
Democrats are remaining out of state to avoid facing a vote they will
most certainly lose.

They may well lose, but they are trying to stick up for the middle
class.

* *No, they're not. They're trying to stick up for political contributors.



As you seem to be on the side of Governor Walker, let me present you
with some facts and ask you a question

*Apparently, you see no problem with teachers, nurses, librarians,
policemen and firemen losing their rights.

* *No one is losing any rights. Only a privilege that even George Meaney
of the AFL-CIO said they had no business getting in the first place. and
he said that decades ago.

*What about Walker trying to *ram rod* through in record time this bill
that also has a NO-BID clause for the state s power plants. This should
be patently illegal for either party. No-bid is just an invitation for
corruption.

*Even though the David Koch was a fake, the point is that Walker
believed- he was real. Legitimate people with legitimate government
business cannot get through to the governor on the first call and get 20
minutes of his uninterrupted time like "Koch" did.

* *Really?

* *I did.

This would seem to
indicate that Walker thinks the Koch brothers are his true bosses.

* *Sophistry. I heard the playback of the call. He sounded like he was
massaging a contributor. No different than NPR taking calls from
patrons, making promises on programming they have no intention of
keeping, and then ignoring that programming once the checks clear.



*In this same bill, Walker is removing the salary income price cap on
vouchers for private schools. This would allow children of the wealthy
to attend private schools at tax payer's expense.

* *No, it would allow citizens to send their children to private school
without having to pay for the public schools at the same time. No one
should have to pay the costs of a system that they're currently paying
exorbitant rates not to use.

* *Regardless of income.

* *Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the
private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the
support, anyway.

On Mar 5, 6:57*am, dave wrote:
On 03/04/2011 10:10 PM, wrote:

Those Volts (Stupid name for a car) and those Leafs aren't selling so
Hot.

- - Gas and Diesel RULES! Electric and Hybrids
- - just don't 'cut it'.And they probally never will.
- - cuhulin

- They are selling as fast as they can make them aren't they?

Take Away All The Government Subsidies
and them see how Fast They Sell =rotfl=

On Mar 5, 7:42*am, m II wrote:
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On 11-03-05 06:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:

* Regardless of income.

* Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the
private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the
support, anyway.

The possible converse, and rather likely outcome of that will be the
taxpayer having to bid on the auction of available tuitions. The death
of publicly funded education would be another step closer. I can see the
public education system resembling the rust belt at worst and privatized
jails at best.

I'm now wondering how many of the mob at a book burning have a secondary
education. How many Baptists at a snake charming ceremony have a high
school diploma? How many of the pervert Mormon's thirty wives have
completed grade nine? How many ex-navy guys in Holland MI. finished
grade four?

It's a slippery slope.

mike

Ah That's The Mike [M II] We Know

Preaching Hate For All From Canada

Mouthing Off His Biases For All From Canada

Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada

Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! ~ RHF

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On 11-03-05 05:28 PM, dxAce wrote:

Come on cocksuker, show me..

Look what I posted for trhee years after some other jerk disagreed with me.

http://groups.google.ca/groups/searc...=m+II&safe=off



mike




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On 11-03-05 04:20 PM, RHF wrote:


Ah That's The Mike [M II] We Know

Preaching Hate For All From Canada

Mouthing Off His Biases For All From Canada

Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada

Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! ~ RHF


You really don't have any clue about the meaning of what you read, do
you? Ninety percent of your responses have absolutely NO bearing on the
subject at hand.

While we're at it, just how long have you been defending the
international trafficking of twelve year old females for the purposes of
statutory rape?

Would Jesus have approved? Why did He mention hanging a millstone around
the necks of those who sexually abuse children?

Do you know better than Jesus what is moral?

Please, I'd like to hear your defense (again) of the sixty year old
'Mormon' fundamentalist with underage wives. Did you send one of YOUR
kids to his harem?


mike


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Yes, I realize that I said you could have the last word, and although I
disagree with many of your points, I will respond to only one,
as this post is becoming unwieldy.

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze...

2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee
County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and
replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company
(so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs").
Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original
guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's
union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is
a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze.

D. Peter Maus wrote:

Nice spin, Joe. But this is a political discussion. Spin is
essential, isn't it.

Spin? What has "spin" got to do with it? The point that I was
illustrating was Walker's sleaze. Even before he became governor, he had
a hard-on to bust the unions, so much so, that he did it *ILLEGALLY* in
Milwaukee, as determined by the courts. A very germane and factual point
to support my statement of Walker's sleaze, not "spin" at all. A matter
of public record that clearly indicates Walker's mind set.

At best, your "spin" statement is disingenuous; at worst, intellectually
dishonest.

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On 11-03-05 04:20 PM, RHF wrote:

Ah That's The Mike [M II] We Know

Preaching Hate For All From Canada

Mouthing Off His Biases For All From Canada

Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada

Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! *~ RHF

You really don't have any clue about the meaning of what you read, do
you? Ninety percent of your responses have absolutely NO bearing on the
subject at hand.

While we're at it, just how long have you been defending the
international trafficking of twelve year old females for the purposes of
statutory rape?

Would Jesus have approved? Why did He mention hanging a millstone around
the necks of those who sexually abuse children?

Do you know better than Jesus what is moral?

Please, I'd like to hear your defense (again) of the sixty year old
'Mormon' fundamentalist with underage wives. Did you send one of YOUR
kids to his harem?

mike

Mike [M II] : Don't Project Your Issues and Problems
On To Me : You Wrote It Time and Time Again
-so- You Own It [.]

Ah Once Again That's The Mike [M II] We Know :

Preaching Hate For All From Canada
-wrt- Israel & Jews
-wrt- The USA & Americans
-wrt- Christians
-wrt- Mormons
-wrt- Persons-of-Faith & Believers

Mouthing-Off His Biases For All From Canada

Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada

Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! ~ RHF

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Yes, I realize that I said you could have the last word, and although I
disagree with many of your points, I will respond to only one,
as this post is becoming unwieldy.

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze...

2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee
County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and
replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company
(so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs").
Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original
guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's
union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is
a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze.

D. Peter Maus wrote:

Nice spin, Joe. But this is a political discussion. Spin is
essential, isn't it.

Spin? What has "spin" got to do with it? The point that I was
illustrating was Walker's sleaze. Even before he became governor, he had
a hard-on to bust the unions, so much so, that he did it *ILLEGALLY* in
Milwaukee, as determined by the courts. A very germane and factual point
to support my statement of Walker's sleaze, not "spin" at all. A matter
of public record that clearly indicates Walker's mind set.

At best, your "spin" statement is disingenuous; at worst, intellectually
dishonest.

So, in reality, you're just ****ed because he had a hard-on, right?

On 3/6/11 13:39 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Yes, I realize that I said you could have the last word, and although I
disagree with many of your points, I will respond to only one,
as this post is becoming unwieldy.


Of course.





Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze...

2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee
County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and
replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company
(so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs").
Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original
guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's
union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is
a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze.

D. Peter Maus wrote:

Nice spin, Joe. But this is a political discussion. Spin is
essential, isn't it.

Spin? What has "spin" got to do with it? The point that I was
illustrating was Walker's sleaze. Even before he became governor, he
had
a hard-on to bust the unions, so much so, that he did it *ILLEGALLY* in
Milwaukee, as determined by the courts. A very germane and factual
point
to support my statement of Walker's sleaze, not "spin" at all. A matter
of public record that clearly indicates Walker's mind set.

At best, your "spin" statement is disingenuous; at worst,
intellectually
dishonest.