On Mar 16, 4:31*pm, RHF wrote:
On Mar 16, 10:21*am, wrote:

- All that nuke stuff (water leak at Toronto plant,
-http://www.drudgereport.com
-http://www.rense.com

Cuhulin,

So... The Present Day Choice is "The Nuke Stuff"
-or- Clean Burning Coal at 1/10,,, 1/100... 1/1000 ! ! !
The Centuries---Millenniums Long Environmental Pollution

What Do We Do For the Next 10 to 20 to 40 to 80 Years
Until We Get To Some 'Other' Clean Safer More Sustainable
Fuel and Power Source.
-yeah-i-know-sit-in-the-dark-and-freeze-in-the-cold-

Your Choice : The Real 'Bad' Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad 'Clean' Coal "Stuff"
-one-or-the-other-for-now-:-
-then-you-can-choose-what's-next...-

and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF

Thorium Fission + Solar/Wind + Fusion in 40 years = permanent
solution.

Bruce

On Mar 17, 8:48*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 16, 4:31*pm, RHF wrote:



On Mar 16, 10:21*am, wrote:

- All that nuke stuff (water leak at Toronto plant,
-http://www.drudgereport.com
-http://www.rense.com

Cuhulin,

So... The Present Day Choice is "The Nuke Stuff"
-or- Clean Burning Coal at 1/10,,, 1/100... 1/1000 ! ! !
The Centuries---Millenniums Long Environmental Pollution

What Do We Do For the Next 10 to 20 to 40 to 80 Years
Until We Get To Some 'Other' Clean Safer More Sustainable
Fuel and Power Source.
-yeah-i-know-sit-in-the-dark-and-freeze-in-the-cold-

Your Choice : The Real 'Bad' Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad 'Clean' Coal "Stuff"
-one-or-the-other-for-now-:-
-then-you-can-choose-what's-next...-

and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF

Thorium Fission + Solar/Wind + Fusion in 40 years = permanent
solution.

Bruce

? How Do You Shut Down The Un-Safe Deadly Polluting
Nuclear Power Plants Now {Today] An Get To There !

First ? How Do You Shut Down -a- Clean Coal !

Second ? The Un-Safe Deadly Polluting Nuclear Power
Plants Now {Today] -a- Clean Coal !

Third ? An Get To There -a- Clean Coal !

Wind Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Supplement
Power Source To Some Prime Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

Solar Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Half-Answer
{Daylight} Power Source To A Full-Time Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

Thorium Fission Is Still A Source of Nuclear Radiation
And Radiation By Products and Waste -while- Clean
Coal Has Significantly Less of Both.

ROTFL Fusion in 40 years -oh-well- Until Then Clean Coal !

America's Answer Remains for the Next 10 to 20 to 40+
Years -is- Clean Coal - imho ~ RHF

On 03/17/2011 10:18 AM, RHF wrote:

Wind Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Supplement
Power Source To Some Prime Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

Solar Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Half-Answer
{Daylight} Power Source To A Full-Time Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

There is no such thing as "clean coal". There is no such thing as "too
much land". Ever driven from Barstow to Kingman?

On Mar 18, 4:16*am, dave wrote:
On 03/17/2011 10:18 AM, RHF wrote:

Wind Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Supplement
Power Source To Some Prime Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

- - Solar Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Half-Answer
- - {Daylight} Power Source To A Full-Time Source Like . . .
- - Clean Coal !

- There is no such thing as "clean coal".

The Great Big Environmentalist Propaganda Hype
-aka- Liberal-Lie and Democrat-Distortion !

There Is Clean and Cleaner Burning Coal
You Can Work At Reducing CO2 and Clean-Up CO2
As We Do With Cars/Trunks/Trains; and Yes Even
Clean Coal too ) -clean-is-good-&-cleaner-is-better-

Point-of-Fact : "Clean Coal" is a Relative Term
that is a Work in Progress {Evolving} :
Very Much Cleaner Burning Than 100 Years Ago
Much Cleaner Burning Than 50 Years Ago
More Cleaner Burning Than 25 Years Ago
Coal Coal Technologies Improve Each Year and
Cleaner Coal Burning Is Doable Today with
Refitted 'Improved' Coal Burning Power Planets
and New/Newer Coal Burning Power Planets
! THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS : CLEAR COAL IS VERY
REAL AND GETTING BETTER EACH YEAR TOO )

On Mar 17, 5:31*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
RHF wrote:
Getting From Here To There Requires Clean Coal !

Getting to any logical point in your comments,
however impossible it may turn out to be,
would require a solution to your oxymoronic reference
to "Clean Coal"
--

http://bit.ly/g2PCII

"Clean Coal" is only an 'Oxy+Moron'
*IF* You Are The Latter Using The Former ;;-}}
-wrt- 'Oxy+Moron'

"Clean Coal" is a Relative Term that is a Work
in Progress {Evolving} :
Very Much Cleaner Burning Than 100 Years Ago
Much Cleaner Burning Than 50 Years Ago
More Cleaner Burning Than 25 Years Ago
Coal Coal Technologies Improve Each Year and
Cleaner Coal Burning Is Doable Today with
Refitted 'Improved' Coal Burning Power Planets
and New/Newer Coal Burning Power Planets

What Would You Rather Have A One Foot Cube
{Block} of Nuclear Waste Encased in Glass in
Your Front Room -or- A One Foot Cube {Block}
of Clean Coal Waste Encased in Glass ? ? ?

On Mar 17, 6:43*pm, RHF wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:31*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:

RHF wrote:
Getting From Here To There Requires Clean Coal !

Getting to any logical point in your comments,
however impossible it may turn out to be,
would require a solution to your oxymoronic reference
to "Clean Coal"
--

http://bit.ly/g2PCII

"Clean Coal" is only an 'Oxy+Moron'
*IF* You Are The Latter Using The Former ;;-}}
-wrt- 'Oxy+Moron'

"Clean Coal" is a Relative Term that is a Work
in Progress {Evolving} :
Very Much Cleaner Burning Than 100 Years Ago
Much Cleaner Burning Than 50 Years Ago
More Cleaner Burning Than 25 Years Ago
Coal Coal Technologies Improve Each Year and
Cleaner Coal Burning Is Doable Today with
Refitted 'Improved' Coal Burning Power Planets
and New/Newer Coal Burning Power Planets

What Would You Rather Have A One Foot Cube
{Block} of Nuclear Waste Encased in Glass in
Your Front Room -or- *A One Foot Cube {Block}
of Clean Coal Waste Encased in Glass ? ? ?
*.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d72ef494dec66f9
*.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/94e203726a5bb2cb
*.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Hydro & Clean Coal "Stuff"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c19af421816bd3bb
*.
*.

It still produces excess tons of CO2.

On Mar 17, 7:00*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke {Radioactive} "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal {CO2} "Stuff"

- It still produces excess tons of CO2.
-so-sell-your-car-asap-:-you-co2-emitter-you-

OMG ! - The Environmentalist CO2 Scare Word
-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-

....and... warning,,, Warning... WARNING ! ! !
Hydro Produces Mega-Tons of Stored H2O* !
-scary-scary-scary-scary-scary-scary-scary-
* -aka- Clean Drinking Water

NOTE : You Can Work At Reducing CO2 and Clean-Up
CO2 As We Do With Cars/Trunks/Trains; and Yes Even
Clean Coal too ) -clean-is-good-&-cleaner-is-better-

What's The Half Life of CO2* {None}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
-versus- The Half-Life of Uranium** ? & Plutonium** ?
** Nuclear Power Plant Enriched Fuels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium#Enrichment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutoni..._and_synthesis
* OOPS ! : CO2 Naturally Occurs !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

* OOPS : Plants Need CO2 !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
-no-green-plants-on-this-green-earth-without-co2-

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Radioactive+Coal

Can't win for loseing.
cuhulin

Chunk of California Coastal Highway at Big Sur Falls Into Sea
http://www.rense.com

Ocean Front Property, baby.
What's the name of that movie? 2012, it's becoming Real! Oh, it's a Real
GOOD movie!
All of California breaking up and sliding off into the Sea.
cuhulin

On 03/17/2011 09:27 PM, wrote:
Chunk of California Coastal Highway at Big Sur Falls Into Sea
http://www.rense.com

Ocean Front Property, baby.
What's the name of that movie? 2012, it's becoming Real! Oh, it's a Real
GOOD movie!
All of California breaking up and sliding off into the Sea.
cuhulin


There are other parts of the state that get bigger.