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m II[_2_] April 27th 11 03:45 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent HumanBeings including 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminalfor an Unproven Offense
 
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On 11-04-26 08:40 PM, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:32:34 -0700 (PDT), Kurtis T. Nicklas of
1293 Westbrook Ave, Elon, NC 27244-9372"



Is that the identity of the cross posting buffoon, John Smith?


mike





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raven1 April 27th 11 04:18 AM

The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
 
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:19:21 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

On 4/26/2011 12:07 PM, raven1 wrote:

...
You are moron with desperate arguments ... watch Waco Rules of
Engagement, if you can't figure out Waco was a total crime for the
reasons already mentioned, you are simply attempting to pursue a "last
man standing argument", a tool of fools who have already lost the
argument and now fall upon their last hope ...


Your posturing aside, you failed to address anything I said above,
including your attempt to support your position with testimony you've
already dismissed as valueless. It doesn't seem like I'm the desperate
moron here.


Your questioning of me is just moronic.


In thinking you might have anything of value to say, yes, I must
admit, guilty as charged.

This matter has been more than
discussed over the intervening years.


Indeed it has.

Any possibly question you can possibly asked finds an answer on the net.
Waco the Rules of Engagement adequately makes the case for a crime,
the dead bodies more than make a case for the crime.


Yes, on the part of David Koresh.

I would never be happy until clinton, reno and the gang are on trial.

Your questions and arguments I simply find insane as any possible
argument as to the criminals being of no guilt.


Quite frankly, based on your performance in this discussion, I doubt
that you could recognize sanity if I spotted you "SAN_TY" and let you
buy a vowel.

and arrive at their own
conclusion of what the truth is.


Indeed.

Justice simply goes wanting until enough patriots and honest Americans
are able to assembly and deal with the criminals who have infiltrated
our government servants ...


Quite frankly, I fear your stated idea of "patriots and honest
Americans" ever gaining access to power far more than I fear what we
have now, not because I distrust patriots and honest Americans, but
because you don't seem to have any grounding in reality on which to
base your definitions.

RHF April 27th 11 04:28 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beingsincluding 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal for anUnproven Offense -is- Over-the-Top Crazy !
 
On Apr 26, 7:16*pm, BDK wrote:
In article b4e85424-c856-471b-b8f7-c76c2d7043ef@
34g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...











On Apr 26, 2:29*pm, "fergo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message


....


On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, "fergo" wrote:
. . . . .
- - "John Smith" wrote in message
- - The government, when it went in, had no intention
- - of letting koresh escape, alive!
- -
- - We have nothing to fear but our own public servants
- - serving others interests ...
. . . . .
- Rubbish, he could have let them arrest him on day 1
- and none of the deaths would have happened.
- Instead he let his brainwashed followers of the cult die.


FERGO,
Keep Repeating The Government Cover-Story and the
Concealment of the Real Facts and the Honest Truth.
-cult-of-the-government- -brainwashed-by-the-government-
.


Keep supporting the child molester and cult leader who destroys families.


The FBI & BATF Shot-Off Five [5] CS Gas Shells Per
Christian Killed; which was a very excessive number
totaling about 400 CS Gas Charges which created
a Highly Toxic {Poisonous} and Extremely Inflammable
Atmosphere inside the Buildings.
-excessive-force- -excessive-force- -excessive-force-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
Most of the Innocent Victims Women and Children
Died from CS Gas Asphyxia before the Fire Started.
-no-smoke-in-their-lungs- -death-by-toxic-cs-gas-levels-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
Then the Fire Started due to the the Excessive Number
[400] CS Gas Charges Shot into the Buildings by the FBI
and BATF; which then created a Highly Inflammable {
Explosive} Atmosphere inside the Buildings.
-burn-the-babies- -burn-the-women-- -burn-the-christians-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
Remember the 18th Anniversary of the Massacre of
74 Christians at WACO by the US Government.
-criminal-use-of-militarized-force-by-the-fbi-&-batf-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massacre :
The Unprovoked Attack by the FBI & BATF; The
Month Long Siege and Massacre of a Christian
Church Full of Innocent Women and Children
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5fd0134b63d847
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8d5303fe99753b
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...aaada28c43250e
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9a56e1d1bc8e33
.
.


The Lesson of WACO :
When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beings
including 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1)
Alleged Criminal for an Unproven Offense that
would most likely get a 5~15 Year Sentence and
serve 3~7 Years in Jail {a Non-Capital Offense}.
-note-:-total-of-74-if-you-count-koresh-too-


YOU HAVE USED EXCESSIVE HOMICIDAL FORCE [.]
-genocide-massacre-murder-massacre-genocide-


WHEN YOU USE PARA-MILITARY FORCE TO DO IT :
YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS
OF ALL THE 73 INNOCENT CHRISTIANS MASSACRED
IN THE NAME OF LIBERAL-SECULAR JUSTICE [.]
-genocide-massacre-murder-massacre-genocide-


WACO HAD MANY LEVELS OF FAULT :


WACO WAS 1ST CLINTON'S FAULT !
-cause-he-had-the-office-plus-power-and-authority-
-as-president-he-failed-to-supervise-and-control-reno-
*.
WACO WAS 2ND RENO'S FAULT !
-cause-she-had-the-office-plus-power-and-authority-
-as-the-usag-she-gave-the-orders-and-let-it-happen-
*.
WACO WAS 3RD THE FBI'S FAULT !
-cause-they-had-the-primary-organization-training-
-intel-and-legal-authority-plus-force-of-arms-
*.
WACO WAS 4TH THE BATF'S FAULT !
-cause-they-had-the-secondary-organization-training-
-intel-and-legal-authority-plus-force-of-arms-
*.
WACO WAS LASTLY KORESH'S FAULT !
-reacted-badly-to-all-the-above-and-massive-show-
-of-armed-military-force-by-the-us-government-
*.
THE VICTIMS 73 INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS
OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH MASSACRED BY THEIR
OWN GOVERNMENT ! -that's-the-reality-of-it-all-
-?-were-all-their-lives-worth-koresh's-alleged-crime-?-
= NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! =
*.
*.
The Liberal-Democrat {Clinton/Reno} Revised History
of WACO : The Republican FBI & BATF Did It !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...cc48607661eb1a
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...35921159d7d693
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...002f2c09d38ccb
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e7746c00341a1e
*.
The 18th Anniversary of the Christian Massacre at
WACO : Five [5] CS Gas Shells Fired Per Christian
Killed : Most Died From The CS Gas Asphyxia
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...aaada28c43250e
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8d5303fe99753b
*.
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massacre : The
Unprovoked Attack by the FBI & BATF; The Month
Long Siege and Massacre of a Christian Church
Full of Innocent Women and Children
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5fd0134b63d847
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e5cc9294d196b5
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9a56e1d1bc8e33
*.
*.


- Does every single post of yours have to be so over the top crazy?
-
- --
- BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

The Lesson of WACO :

So... ? Over-the-Top Crazy ! -is-
"When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beings"
-bdk-are-you-claiming-that-
-73-innocent-human-beings-were-not-killed-
OOPS : FACT IS 73 INNOCENT HUMAN BEING WERE KILLED [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2d90d8fcc164d1

RHF April 27th 11 05:25 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beingsincluding 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal for an
 
On Apr 26, 7:40*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:41:44 -0700 (PDT), RHF

wrote:
WACO HAD MANY LEVELS OF FAULT :


Must have


- Koresh was wounded and the fires set at 2-3 different places.

Y@G : Repeating the Liberal-Secularist Lie
Again and Again : Does Not Make It True.

REAL FACTS + HONEST TRUTH :
Five [5] CS Gas Shells Fired Per Christian Killed :
Most Died From The CS Gas Asphyxia
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...aaada28c43250e
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8d5303fe99753b

[email protected] April 27th 11 05:37 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent HumanB...
 
NSA ET (Phone Home, MOFO!) Disclosure.
http://www.rense.com

alien sounding female who spoke in a cat like uninrelligble language.
(sumpin like dat)

Huh, Meowwwwww,,,,,, Meowwwwww,,,,,,,

I need to stop that, it's gettin doggy upset.
cuhulin


BDK[_7_] April 27th 11 06:26 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beings including 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal for an Unproven Offense -is- Over-the-Top Crazy !
 
In article 5aa9b5bb-0a4c-4816-84f3-03bbf8baae11
@e25g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 26, 7:16*pm, BDK wrote:
In article b4e85424-c856-471b-b8f7-c76c2d7043ef@
34g2000pru.googlegroups.com, says...











On Apr 26, 2:29*pm, "fergo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message


...


On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, "fergo" wrote:
. . . . .
- - "John Smith" wrote in message
- - The government, when it went in, had no intention
- - of letting koresh escape, alive!
- -
- - We have nothing to fear but our own public servants
- - serving others interests ...
. . . . .
- Rubbish, he could have let them arrest him on day 1
- and none of the deaths would have happened.
- Instead he let his brainwashed followers of the cult die.


FERGO,
Keep Repeating The Government Cover-Story and the
Concealment of the Real Facts and the Honest Truth.
-cult-of-the-government- -brainwashed-by-the-government-
.


Keep supporting the child molester and cult leader who destroys families.


The FBI & BATF Shot-Off Five [5] CS Gas Shells Per
Christian Killed; which was a very excessive number
totaling about 400 CS Gas Charges which created
a Highly Toxic {Poisonous} and Extremely Inflammable
Atmosphere inside the Buildings.
-excessive-force- -excessive-force- -excessive-force-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
Most of the Innocent Victims Women and Children
Died from CS Gas Asphyxia before the Fire Started.
-no-smoke-in-their-lungs- -death-by-toxic-cs-gas-levels-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
Then the Fire Started due to the the Excessive Number
[400] CS Gas Charges Shot into the Buildings by the FBI
and BATF; which then created a Highly Inflammable {
Explosive} Atmosphere inside the Buildings.
-burn-the-babies- -burn-the-women-- -burn-the-christians-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
Remember the 18th Anniversary of the Massacre of
74 Christians at WACO by the US Government.
-criminal-use-of-militarized-force-by-the-fbi-&-batf-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
.
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massacre :
The Unprovoked Attack by the FBI & BATF; The
Month Long Siege and Massacre of a Christian
Church Full of Innocent Women and Children
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5fd0134b63d847
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8d5303fe99753b
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...aaada28c43250e
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9a56e1d1bc8e33
.
.


The Lesson of WACO :
When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beings
including 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1)
Alleged Criminal for an Unproven Offense that
would most likely get a 5~15 Year Sentence and
serve 3~7 Years in Jail {a Non-Capital Offense}.
-note-:-total-of-74-if-you-count-koresh-too-


YOU HAVE USED EXCESSIVE HOMICIDAL FORCE [.]
-genocide-massacre-murder-massacre-genocide-


WHEN YOU USE PARA-MILITARY FORCE TO DO IT :
YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS
OF ALL THE 73 INNOCENT CHRISTIANS MASSACRED
IN THE NAME OF LIBERAL-SECULAR JUSTICE [.]
-genocide-massacre-murder-massacre-genocide-


WACO HAD MANY LEVELS OF FAULT :


WACO WAS 1ST CLINTON'S FAULT !
-cause-he-had-the-office-plus-power-and-authority-
-as-president-he-failed-to-supervise-and-control-reno-
*.
WACO WAS 2ND RENO'S FAULT !
-cause-she-had-the-office-plus-power-and-authority-
-as-the-usag-she-gave-the-orders-and-let-it-happen-
*.
WACO WAS 3RD THE FBI'S FAULT !
-cause-they-had-the-primary-organization-training-
-intel-and-legal-authority-plus-force-of-arms-
*.
WACO WAS 4TH THE BATF'S FAULT !
-cause-they-had-the-secondary-organization-training-
-intel-and-legal-authority-plus-force-of-arms-
*.
WACO WAS LASTLY KORESH'S FAULT !
-reacted-badly-to-all-the-above-and-massive-show-
-of-armed-military-force-by-the-us-government-
*.
THE VICTIMS 73 INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS
OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH MASSACRED BY THEIR
OWN GOVERNMENT ! -that's-the-reality-of-it-all-
-?-were-all-their-lives-worth-koresh's-alleged-crime-?-
= NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! = NO ! =
*.
*.
The Liberal-Democrat {Clinton/Reno} Revised History
of WACO : The Republican FBI & BATF Did It !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...cc48607661eb1a
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...35921159d7d693
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...002f2c09d38ccb
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e7746c00341a1e
*.
The 18th Anniversary of the Christian Massacre at
WACO : Five [5] CS Gas Shells Fired Per Christian
Killed : Most Died From The CS Gas Asphyxia
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4d1b109bd4fedf
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...aaada28c43250e
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8d5303fe99753b
*.
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massacre : The
Unprovoked Attack by the FBI & BATF; The Month
Long Siege and Massacre of a Christian Church
Full of Innocent Women and Children
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5fd0134b63d847
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e5cc9294d196b5
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9a56e1d1bc8e33
*.
*.


- Does every single post of yours have to be so over the top crazy?
-
- --
- BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

The Lesson of WACO :

So... ? Over-the-Top Crazy ! -is-
"When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beings"
-bdk-are-you-claiming-that-
-73-innocent-human-beings-were-not-killed-
OOPS : FACT IS 73 INNOCENT HUMAN BEING WERE KILLED [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2d90d8fcc164d1
.
So... ? Over-the-Top Crazy ! -is-
"including 17 Children"
-bdk-are-you-claiming-that-17-children-were-not-killer-
OOPS : FACT IS 17 CHILDREN WERE KILLED [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2d90d8fcc164d1
.
So... ? Over-the-Top Crazy ! -is-
"to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal
for an Unproven Offense that would most likely
get a 5~15 Year Sentence and serve 3~7 Years
in Jail {a Non-Capital Offense}."
-bdk-are-you-claiming-that-koresh-was-the-only-target-
OOPS : FACT IS FBI & BATF CLAIMED THAT THEY
ONLY WANTED KORESH [.] -one-arrest-warrant-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2d90d8fcc164d1
.
So... ? Over-the-Top Crazy ! -is-
"-note-:-total-of-74-if-you-count-koresh-too-"
-bdk-are-you-claiming-that-koresh-was-not killed-too-
OOPS : FACT IS FBI & BATF CLAIMED THAT
KORESH WAS KILLED [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2d90d8fcc164d1
.
BDK - I Guess to a Top-of-Heap Government Shill :
"Facts" Are Over-the-Top Crazy !
.
The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder}
73 Innocent Human Beings including 17 Children
to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal
for an Unproven Offense -is- Over-the-Top Crazy !
-thank-you-for-the-summation-bdk-tyvm-;;-}}-
.
heap-on bdk,,, and shill-out too ~ RHF
.
.


It wasn't a serious question.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

[email protected] April 27th 11 07:42 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human B...
 
On Apr 27, 12:37*am, wrote:
NSA ET (Phone Home, MOFO!) Disclosure.http://www.rense.com

alien sounding female who spoke in a cat like uninrelligble language.
(sumpin like dat)

Huh, Meowwwwww,,,,,, Meowwwwww,,,,,,,

I need to stop that, it's gettin doggy upset.
cuhulin


A) SETI is unable to get any funding and has been shut down . That is
very sad . B) That 'ufo' must be from China-- hence the cat-like
meowing on the VHF aero channel .

fergo April 27th 11 08:19 AM

The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
 


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 4/26/2011 2:31 PM, fergo wrote:


No it can't, not when the government has a legal warrant and the
criminals
are molesting and abusing children and own illegal firearms and murder
government agents.


Frankly, trials and accusations on dead men, when they can't defend
themselves, tends to fall upon dead ears here ...

If they really were concerned about evidence of illegal firearms, they
probably would not have bulldozed the compound making any proof
unobtainable, invalid and worthless ...

The coverup stories are nice fantasy, I like reading Stephen King too ...
that man has a great imagination!

But no one made up the cases of attempted rape, child abuse and the cult
leader destroying families.



RHF April 27th 11 11:14 AM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beingsincluding 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal for anUnproven Offense -is- Over-the-Top Crazy !
 
On Apr 27, 12:19*am, "fergo" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...







On 4/26/2011 2:31 PM, fergo wrote:


No it can't, not when the government has a legal warrant and the
criminals
are molesting and abusing children and own illegal firearms and murder
government agents.


Frankly, trials and accusations on dead men, when they can't defend
themselves, tends to fall upon dead ears here ...


If they really were concerned about evidence of illegal firearms, they
probably would not have bulldozed the compound making any proof
unobtainable, invalid and worthless ...


The coverup stories are nice fantasy, I like reading Stephen King too ....
that man has a great imagination!


- But no one made up the cases of attempted rape,
- child abuse and the cult leader destroying families.

raven1 April 27th 11 02:44 PM

The Lesson of WACO : When You Kill {Murder} 73 Innocent Human Beings including 17 Children to Attempt to Arrest One (1) Alleged Criminal for an Unproven Offense -is- Over-the-Top Crazy !
 
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:14:12 -0700 (PDT), RHF
wrote:

On Apr 27, 12:19*am, "fergo" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...







On 4/26/2011 2:31 PM, fergo wrote:


No it can't, not when the government has a legal warrant and the
criminals
are molesting and abusing children and own illegal firearms and murder
government agents.


Frankly, trials and accusations on dead men, when they can't defend
themselves, tends to fall upon dead ears here ...


If they really were concerned about evidence of illegal firearms, they
probably would not have bulldozed the compound making any proof
unobtainable, invalid and worthless ...


The coverup stories are nice fantasy, I like reading Stephen King too ...
that man has a great imagination!


- But no one made up the cases of attempted rape,
- child abuse and the cult leader destroying families.
.
NO ONE PROVED THE CASES EITHER : THEY SIMPLY
ASSASSINATED THE SO-CALLED 'CULT LEADER'
ALONG WITH 73 INNOCENT CHRISTIAN FOLLOWERS [.]
Oops... Another Inconvenient Truth !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...129b2bba74c10f
.
They Claim that they came just to have a talk
with one man and killed 73 others.
Oops... Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d73828feefa05f
.
Bill Clinton 'Failed to Act' and 73 Innocent People Died !
RESULTING IN THE WACO MASSACRE
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...cc48607661eb1a
.
Jane Reno Gave 'The Order' and 73 Innocent People Died !
RESULTING IN THE WACO MASSACRE
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...35921159d7d693
FBI Launched the CS Gas Shells and 73 Innocent People Died !
RESULTING IN THE WACO MASSACRE
.
BATF Shot a Ton of Ammo and 73 Innocent People Died !
RESULTING IN THE WACO MASSACRE
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...002f2c09d38ccb
.
One Man Terrorized by the FBI & BATF and
73 Innocent People Trapped !
RESULTING IN THE WACO MASSACRE
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e7746c00341a1e


David Koresh, a religious nutjob who preached an immanent Apocalypse,
ordered his followers to immolate their own compound!
RESULTING IN THE WACO MASSACRE


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