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The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Apr 21, 8:02*pm, John Smith wrote:
I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:41:49 -0700, John Smith
wrote: It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The accusers, one should note, are the surviving Branch Davidians. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! Why not? We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Who did you have in mind? |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/25/2011 12:26 PM, raven1 wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:41:49 -0700, John wrote: It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The accusers, one should note, are the surviving Branch Davidians. Yeah, why would they ever hesitate about telling the truth, after watching 78 of them mass murdered by the government ... I think all here can see the validity of your insane text ... I didn't ignore it the first time, I just could not believe you wanted me to respond to your insane remark and embarrass you ... The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! Why not? Why do governments worldwide slaughter their own citizens ... or, have you even noticed it going on? I am sure the government will throw open all their records to you though, if you ask nicely, they don't hide anything, do they? Why don't you ask them and get back to us here? We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Who did you have in mind? President on down to local officials ... Regards, JS |
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On 4/25/2011 2:41 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Regards, JS I think that Koresh and his followers believed some crazy things. But it's not illegal or punishable to believe in anything you choose -- nor should it be. I don't believe Koresh ordered the deaths of his church members. But even if you _do_ believe that accusation, ask yourself this question: Which is the more dangerous cult? Which cult has killed more people in its "cause"? The belief system that says that David Koresh embodied all that was good and right? Or the belief system that says modern American "democracy" embodies all that is good and right? With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
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On 4/25/2011 12:38 PM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
... I think that Koresh and his followers believed some crazy things. But it's not illegal or punishable to believe in anything you choose -- nor should it be. I don't believe Koresh ordered the deaths of his church members. But even if you _do_ believe that accusation, ask yourself this question: Which is the more dangerous cult? Which cult has killed more people in its "cause"? The belief system that says that David Koresh embodied all that was good and right? Or the belief system that says modern American "democracy" embodies all that is good and right? With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. The most dangerous cults are those whose members consist of republicrats and democans ... the God they worship is money, power, wealth and inflicting pain and suffering on those which they perceive as their enemies ... while difficult to name such an organization who attempts to keep its' name hidden, and, as much as possible, its' criminal activities hidden ... shadow government should be a fitting name. Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:37:54 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/25/2011 12:26 PM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:41:49 -0700, John wrote: It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The accusers, one should note, are the surviving Branch Davidians. Yeah, why would they ever hesitate about telling the truth, after watching 78 of them mass murdered by the government ... Or by their deranged cult leader, whose preaching focused on an immanent Apocalypse. I think all here can see the validity of your insane text ... I didn't ignore it the first time, I just could not believe you wanted me to respond to your insane remark and embarrass you ... The only person you are in a position to embarass is yourself, by spouting this crackpot revisionist history. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! Why not? Why do governments worldwide slaughter their own citizens ... or, have you even noticed it going on? They normally have readily apparent reasons, whether justified or not. What was the purported motive here? I am sure the government will throw open all their records to you though, if you ask nicely, they don't hide anything, do they? Why don't you ask them and get back to us here? IOW, you can't actually provide a credible motive. Nice unintentional admission. We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Who did you have in mind? President on down to local officials ... No, whose interests do you think they are serving? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Trilateral Commission? That old standby, the Jews? Please, enlighten everyone. |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/25/2011 1:07 PM, raven1 wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:37:54 -0700, John wrote: On 4/25/2011 12:26 PM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:41:49 -0700, John wrote: It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The accusers, one should note, are the surviving Branch Davidians. Yeah, why would they ever hesitate about telling the truth, after watching 78 of them mass murdered by the government ... Or by their deranged cult leader, whose preaching focused on an immanent Apocalypse. Preaching bull**** is no crime. Murdering people is. I know this might be shocking to people who would have us do away with free speech. I think all here can see the validity of your insane text ... I didn't ignore it the first time, I just could not believe you wanted me to respond to your insane remark and embarrass you ... The only person you are in a position to embarass is yourself, by spouting this crackpot revisionist history. The same was being said at the very time the Waco massacres were going on ... a search on the way back engine should produce ample evidence of this. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! Why not? Why do governments worldwide slaughter their own citizens ... or, have you even noticed it going on? They normally have readily apparent reasons, whether justified or not. What was the purported motive here? Really? Sick psychotic murders frequently baffle even the most astute psychiatrists as to their motives ... often you find these sickos as dictators of nations ... I am sure the government will throw open all their records to you though, if you ask nicely, they don't hide anything, do they? Why don't you ask them and get back to us here? IOW, you can't actually provide a credible motive. Nice unintentional admission. Random senseless murders are done for many reasons, some easy to scam up a motive for, some not ... just the sheer show of force and being able to get away with the mass murder helps the government subdue the populations girly-men and powder-puff-bull-dykes. Not to mention that unstable personalities enjoy murder for the sake of sheer murder ... if you are powerful in government, you have henchmen do it for you, as sadam and his sones, and libyas' ruler are accused of ... for recent examples. These sickos find positions in our government just as good as a platform as foreign governments. We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Who did you have in mind? President on down to local officials ... No, whose interests do you think they are serving? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Trilateral Commission? That old standby, the Jews? Please, enlighten everyone. Money and power, the more the better ... DUH! Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. koresh was frequently in town and away from the compound on business. Slipping set a of cuffs on him and taking him to court would have been a LOT cheaper on tax payers. Personally, I think much more money is owed in resitution to the victims families and surviving victims. Criminals are usually loathe to own up to their debts and crimes ... I don't think the events were any different than those which were planed for public servants working in someones, or some groups best interests. Whatever koresh had, or had not done will always remain a mystery, our public servants crimes forever before the people. Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:32:16 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. koresh was frequently in town and away from the compound on business. Slipping set a of cuffs on him and taking him to court would have been a LOT cheaper on tax payers. Yes it would have. Heads should have rolled over that. Personally, I think much more money is owed in resitution to the victims families and surviving victims. Criminals are usually loathe to own up to their debts and crimes ... I don't think the events were any different than those which were planed for public servants working in someones, or some groups best interests. Whatever koresh had, or had not done will always remain a mystery, Hardly. His surviving followers talk quite ope our public servants crimes forever before the people. Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:32:16 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. koresh was frequently in town and away from the compound on business. Slipping set a of cuffs on him and taking him to court would have been a LOT cheaper on tax payers. Absolutely. Heads should have rolled over that. Personally, I think much more money is owed in resitution to the victims families and surviving victims. Criminals are usually loathe to own up to their debts and crimes ... I don't think the events were any different than those which were planed for public servants working in someones, or some groups best interests. Whatever koresh had, or had not done will always remain a mystery Hardly. His surviving followers are quite open about their time with Koresh. , our public servants crimes forever before the people. Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:17:05 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/25/2011 1:07 PM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:37:54 -0700, John wrote: On 4/25/2011 12:26 PM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:41:49 -0700, John wrote: It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The accusers, one should note, are the surviving Branch Davidians. Yeah, why would they ever hesitate about telling the truth, after watching 78 of them mass murdered by the government ... Or by their deranged cult leader, whose preaching focused on an immanent Apocalypse. Preaching bull**** is no crime. Of course it isn't. Just curious, though: you don't see a connection here between Koresh's Apocalyptic preaching, and what his followers say were his actions at the end of the siege? Murdering people is. I know this might be shocking to people who would have us do away with free speech. Who advocated doing away with free speech? I think all here can see the validity of your insane text ... I didn't ignore it the first time, I just could not believe you wanted me to respond to your insane remark and embarrass you ... The only person you are in a position to embarass is yourself, by spouting this crackpot revisionist history. The same was being said at the very time the Waco massacres were going on ... a search on the way back engine should produce ample evidence of this. Sorry, but the only massacre perpetrated was by David Koresh against his own followers. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! Why not? Why do governments worldwide slaughter their own citizens ... or, have you even noticed it going on? They normally have readily apparent reasons, whether justified or not. What was the purported motive here? Really? Yes, really. Sick psychotic murders frequently baffle even the most astute psychiatrists as to their motives ... often you find these sickos as dictators of nations ... IOW, you can't provide any sort of motive for the purported actions of the Government, yet somehow it's them, and not a classic loon like Koresh, who perpetrated the massacre. Yeah, that's credible. I am sure the government will throw open all their records to you though, if you ask nicely, they don't hide anything, do they? Why don't you ask them and get back to us here? IOW, you can't actually provide a credible motive. Nice unintentional admission. Random senseless murders are done for many reasons, some easy to scam up a motive for, some not ... just the sheer show of force and being able to get away with the mass murder helps the government subdue the populations girly-men and powder-puff-bull-dykes. Not to mention that unstable personalities enjoy murder for the sake of sheer murder ... if you are powerful in government, you have henchmen do it for you, as sadam and his sones, and libyas' ruler are accused of ... for recent examples. These sickos find positions in our government just as good as a platform as foreign governments. Wow. Paranoid much? We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Who did you have in mind? President on down to local officials ... No, whose interests do you think they are serving? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Trilateral Commission? That old standby, the Jews? Please, enlighten everyone. Money and power, the more the better ... DUH! Non-responsive answer duly noted. So, let's sum it up he you're positing a Government conspiracy to murder innocent people for no discernable motive other than to further the unspecified interests of vague, unnamed rich people. The cult leader is a deranged loon who preaches an immanent apocalypse, but it's the Government, not him, who immolated him and his followers (again, for no discernable reason). Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/25/2011 2:11 PM, raven1 wrote:
... Money and power, the more the better ... DUH! Non-responsive answer duly noted. So, let's sum it up he you're positing a Government conspiracy to murder innocent people for no discernable motive other than to further the unspecified interests of vague, unnamed rich people. The cult leader is a deranged loon who preaches an immanent apocalypse, but it's the Government, not him, who immolated him and his followers (again, for no discernable reason). Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message . 131... "Fergo" wrote in . au: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message . .. On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. Far from the Davidians being "trapped" in the compound they could leave any time. In fact that is why there are survivors. They are the ones just walked out, unharmed. Yep and because Koresh could have sent those children away he is just as at fault as the FBI were. FRIDAY, MARCH 19: Two Davidians, Brad BRANCH and Kevin WHITECLIFF, come out of the compound. SATURDAY, MARCH 20: Another Davidian, Rita RIDDLE, comes out of the compound. SUNDAY, MARCH 21: At 12:15 a.m., two more women, Victorine HOLLINGSWORTH and Annetta RICHARDS, exit the compound. Rita RIDDLE, Gladys OTTMAN, Sheila MARTIN, James LAWTON, and Ofelia SANTOYA come out. TUESDAY, MARCH 23: At 10:05 a.m., Livingstone FAGAN leaves the compound http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...timeline3.html |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
"John Smith" wrote in message ... On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Rubbish, he could have let them arrest him on day 1 and none of the deaths would have happened. Instead he let his brainwashed followers of the cult die. |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:15:37 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/25/2011 2:11 PM, raven1 wrote: ... Money and power, the more the better ... DUH! Non-responsive answer duly noted. So, let's sum it up he you're positing a Government conspiracy to murder innocent people for no discernable motive other than to further the unspecified interests of vague, unnamed rich people. The cult leader is a deranged loon who preaches an immanent apocalypse, but it's the Government, not him, who immolated him and his followers (again, for no discernable reason). Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:55 -0700, John Smith
wrote: The court hearing(s) and trials on all this are nothing short of criminal, a sham, a joke ... I am sorry, I find any testimony given by the victimized surviors of no value, I'm sorry you discount the testimony of people who were actually there for the speculation of people who weren't. besides having gone though the horror of watching their friends and family murdered, I can only guess at what threats and/or monetary "compensations" have been offered, by the criminals. That's the first problem with conspiracy theories: they're typically long on guesses, and short on actual evidence... I am afraid we must agree to disagree on what is real, possible, probable and truth ... ....and that's the second problem: way too often, conspiracy theorists don't seem to recognize much of a disticntion between "possible", "probable", and "true". The bulldozing and destruction of the crime scene, immediately after, is something which would bring normal criminals under high scrutiny. I said what I meant, koresh and the intentions of the davidians will always be under a shroud of mystery -- our public servants illegal use of the military and their crimes are simply a matter of record. Regards, JS |
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About two something weeks ago, somebody at http://www.libertypost.org said Hillary Clinton made the decision. If the feds wanted to arrest David Koresh, why didn't they do it when he went to town? They were there.They easily could have arrested him right there and then. cuhulin |
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On 4/25/2011 11:37 PM, fergo wrote:
... Yep and because Koresh could have sent those children away he is just as at fault as the FBI were. ... Only an absolute fool would make a moronic statement like that, stop drinking the water. koresh was qualified to set up a commune and a rebel adventist church. I expect much out of my public servant in the presidents office and who he/she appoints. I expect more of my military, they know better. I expect more of my sheriff and police, etc. And, any fool who misses those importances' need to take up residence in a 3rd world country ... Regards, JS |
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On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote:
... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:37:05 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: And you think which was the motive here? My original answer, moron. IIRC, your original answer was completely vague as to a possible motive. obamas birth certificate is NO CONSPIRACY, it is hidden, obama will tell you why, himself: “"The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide." -- barack obama (barry soetoro) 9/11 is scientific fact, thermite in the dust, free fall speeds, all three buildings falling into their own footprints, tons of molten iron in the basements. If only one of those things were breaking the laws of physics, perhaps a claim of "conspiracy" could be provoke. With the total overwhelming abundance of evidence and truth, 9/11 is NO CONSPIRACY -- IT IS SCIENTIFIC FACT. Political science is not acceptable in the crime of controlled demolition! May I ask exactly what the Hell Obama's birth certificate and 9/11 have to do with Waco? |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS You are stuck in a circular argument, the evidence prove Waco a crime, a lot of the evidence has been pointed out here, bullets, CS gas, tanks/fires, filmed shooting of fleeing Waco victims, bull dozing of evidence, etc. As I pointed out, anyone watching Waco Rules of Engagement will have this pointed out to them. Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
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. au: "John Smith" wrote in message ... On 4/25/2011 1:23 AM, Fergo wrote: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS" wrote in message news:d43ba54f-29d6-4fc0-ac37-8d544e6e9126 @a21g2000prj.googlegroups.com... On Apr 21, 8:02 pm, John Smith wrote: I am in agreement there, only difference, regan is dead, we can still bring clinton to justice before he dies and gets away! He burned alive 85 americans including 30 kids and not a damn thing was done to him and our useless corporate media supported himi!!! It's David Koresh who allowed 21 of those people to die. The rest could have left at any time. Also David Koresh abused children and attempted to rape one. He split up families, he was a cult leader. We didn't miss that point. It is MUCH easier to accuse dead men of crimes, they simply can't represent themselves in court and most charges and trumped up evidence will stick to men in a coffin. The government, when it went in, had no intention of letting koresh escape, alive! We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Rubbish, he could have let them arrest him on day 1 and none of the deaths would have happened. Instead he let his brainwashed followers of the cult die. That does not alter the fact that the ATF could have arrested him in town instead of staging a reenactment of the D-Day invasion and getting their asses handed to them. The ending was a foregone conclusion. The government cannot allow such resistance to go unpunished. To bad it doesn’t feel the same way about incompetence and malfeasance. -- Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/ If you don't support him you are a Racist!! He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer) Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much competence? |
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The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:51:32 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 7:06 AM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:55 -0700, John wrote: The court hearing(s) and trials on all this are nothing short of criminal, a sham, a joke ... I am sorry, I find any testimony given by the victimized surviors of no value, ... http://www.public-action.com/SkyWrit.../page/b_a.html http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/09/waco I'm not sure as to your point: the second link here is to a survivor's account blaming the FBI, but the first is an article discrediting his account as unbelievable, and noting that his story has changed several times. http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/waco-speak-out.html This is testimony of two survivors: Thibodeau, whose account your first article has already dismissed as unreliable, and a second who offers no insight as to how the fire started other than that he didn't hear an order to set it. But again, what's your point, as you've already stated you hold the survivors' accounts of no value? Make up your mind. |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:01 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS You are stuck in a circular argument, the evidence prove Waco a crime, a lot of the evidence has been pointed out here, bullets, CS gas, tanks/fires, filmed shooting of fleeing Waco victims, bull dozing of evidence, etc. As I pointed out, anyone watching Waco Rules of Engagement will have this pointed out to them. Non-responsive answer duly noted. |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote:
... How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. ... If you really must pose such imbecilic questions, you probably missed the importance of potty training ... don't bother the adults here, go home and ask your mother ... Asking sideways questions ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/26/2011 10:54 AM, raven1 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:01 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS You are stuck in a circular argument, the evidence prove Waco a crime, a lot of the evidence has been pointed out here, bullets, CS gas, tanks/fires, filmed shooting of fleeing Waco victims, bull dozing of evidence, etc. As I pointed out, anyone watching Waco Rules of Engagement will have this pointed out to them. Non-responsive answer duly noted. Ignoring morons is one of my specialties ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/26/2011 10:41 AM, raven1 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:51:32 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 7:06 AM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:55 -0700, John wrote: The court hearing(s) and trials on all this are nothing short of criminal, a sham, a joke ... I am sorry, I find any testimony given by the victimized surviors of no value, ... http://www.public-action.com/SkyWrit.../page/b_a.html http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/09/waco I'm not sure as to your point: the second link here is to a survivor's account blaming the FBI, but the first is an article discrediting his account as unbelievable, and noting that his story has changed several times. http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/waco-speak-out.html This is testimony of two survivors: Thibodeau, whose account your first article has already dismissed as unreliable, and a second who offers no insight as to how the fire started other than that he didn't hear an order to set it. But again, what's your point, as you've already stated you hold the survivors' accounts of no value? Make up your mind. Combined with what I have already stated, and apparently you have missed, with the resources and open intimidation of lethal force by public servants, military, police, etc. only fools could oppose these lethal forces without escaping death ... You want absolutes when it is the very nature of the criminals to hide their crimes ... Waco was a simple illegal home invasion perpetrated by government ... they got their asses handed to them and had to murder the resisters in a show of force. I'd say that is pretty criminal fare done by tyrants worldwide ... you seem to feel it is OK when American public servants do crimes. That is all which has happened, that is all that happening ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:02:09 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:41 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:51:32 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 7:06 AM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:55 -0700, John wrote: The court hearing(s) and trials on all this are nothing short of criminal, a sham, a joke ... I am sorry, I find any testimony given by the victimized surviors of no value, ... http://www.public-action.com/SkyWrit.../page/b_a.html http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/09/waco I'm not sure as to your point: the second link here is to a survivor's account blaming the FBI, but the first is an article discrediting his account as unbelievable, and noting that his story has changed several times. http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/waco-speak-out.html This is testimony of two survivors: Thibodeau, whose account your first article has already dismissed as unreliable, and a second who offers no insight as to how the fire started other than that he didn't hear an order to set it. But again, what's your point, as you've already stated you hold the survivors' accounts of no value? Make up your mind. Combined with what I have already stated, Stop right there. You're using accounts that you've previously dismissed as being of "no value" to support your position. Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Moreover, as I pointed out, the first link you provided dismisses the testimony from the second (and half of the testimony from the third) as unbelievable, and the remainder of the testimony in the third link doesn't implicate either side for starting the fire, so it's of no aid to you. and apparently you have missed, with the resources and open intimidation of lethal force by public servants, military, police, etc. only fools could oppose these lethal forces without escaping death ... Well, yes, if by "opposing" you mean "armed opposition", but several of the Branch Davidians did peacefully leave the compound unharmed during the stand-off... You want absolutes when it is the very nature of the criminals to hide their crimes ... No, I just expect accusations to be supported by evidence, not speculation. Waco was a simple illegal home invasion perpetrated by government ... they got their asses handed to them and had to murder the resisters in a show of force. "Had to"? Why? I'd say that is pretty criminal fare done by tyrants worldwide ... you seem to feel it is OK when American public servants do crimes. No, I don't. But I also don't feel it's OK to revise history. That is all which has happened, that is all that happening ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:55:37 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote: ... How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. ... If you really must pose such imbecilic questions, you probably missed the importance of potty training ... don't bother the adults here, go home and ask your mother ... Asking sideways questions ... You are apparently unwilling or unable to answer a direct question. That doesn't help your credibility. |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:56:18 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:54 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:01 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS You are stuck in a circular argument, the evidence prove Waco a crime, a lot of the evidence has been pointed out here, bullets, CS gas, tanks/fires, filmed shooting of fleeing Waco victims, bull dozing of evidence, etc. As I pointed out, anyone watching Waco Rules of Engagement will have this pointed out to them. Non-responsive answer duly noted. Ignoring morons is one of my specialties ... I note that this is the third time you've evaded answering the same question. If you're unable or unwilling to defend your position, why bother posting? |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/26/2011 11:37 AM, raven1 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:02:09 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:41 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:51:32 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 7:06 AM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:55 -0700, John wrote: The court hearing(s) and trials on all this are nothing short of criminal, a sham, a joke ... I am sorry, I find any testimony given by the victimized surviors of no value, ... http://www.public-action.com/SkyWrit.../page/b_a.html http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/09/waco I'm not sure as to your point: the second link here is to a survivor's account blaming the FBI, but the first is an article discrediting his account as unbelievable, and noting that his story has changed several times. http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/waco-speak-out.html This is testimony of two survivors: Thibodeau, whose account your first article has already dismissed as unreliable, and a second who offers no insight as to how the fire started other than that he didn't hear an order to set it. But again, what's your point, as you've already stated you hold the survivors' accounts of no value? Make up your mind. Combined with what I have already stated, Stop right there. You're using accounts that you've previously dismissed as being of "no value" to support your position. Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Moreover, as I pointed out, the first link you provided dismisses the testimony from the second (and half of the testimony from the third) as unbelievable, and the remainder of the testimony in the third link doesn't implicate either side for starting the fire, so it's of no aid to you. and apparently you have missed, with the resources and open intimidation of lethal force by public servants, military, police, etc. only fools could oppose these lethal forces without escaping death ... Well, yes, if by "opposing" you mean "armed opposition", but several of the Branch Davidians did peacefully leave the compound unharmed during the stand-off... You want absolutes when it is the very nature of the criminals to hide their crimes ... No, I just expect accusations to be supported by evidence, not speculation. Waco was a simple illegal home invasion perpetrated by government ... they got their asses handed to them and had to murder the resisters in a show of force. "Had to"? Why? I'd say that is pretty criminal fare done by tyrants worldwide ... you seem to feel it is OK when American public servants do crimes. No, I don't. But I also don't feel it's OK to revise history. That is all which has happened, that is all that happening ... Regards, JS You are moron with desperate arguments ... watch Waco Rules of Engagement, if you can't figure out Waco was a total crime for the reasons already mentioned, you are simply attempting to pursue a "last man standing argument", a tool of fools who have already lost the argument and now fall upon their last hope ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On 4/26/2011 11:42 AM, raven1 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:56:18 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:54 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:01 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS You are stuck in a circular argument, the evidence prove Waco a crime, a lot of the evidence has been pointed out here, bullets, CS gas, tanks/fires, filmed shooting of fleeing Waco victims, bull dozing of evidence, etc. As I pointed out, anyone watching Waco Rules of Engagement will have this pointed out to them. Non-responsive answer duly noted. Ignoring morons is one of my specialties ... I note that this is the third time you've evaded answering the same question. If you're unable or unwilling to defend your position, why bother posting? Yes, it has already been stated ... Waco Rules of Engagement covers all well ... Regards, JS |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:46:47 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 11:37 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:02:09 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:41 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:51:32 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 7:06 AM, raven1 wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:12:55 -0700, John wrote: The court hearing(s) and trials on all this are nothing short of criminal, a sham, a joke ... I am sorry, I find any testimony given by the victimized surviors of no value, ... http://www.public-action.com/SkyWrit.../page/b_a.html http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/09/waco I'm not sure as to your point: the second link here is to a survivor's account blaming the FBI, but the first is an article discrediting his account as unbelievable, and noting that his story has changed several times. http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/waco-speak-out.html This is testimony of two survivors: Thibodeau, whose account your first article has already dismissed as unreliable, and a second who offers no insight as to how the fire started other than that he didn't hear an order to set it. But again, what's your point, as you've already stated you hold the survivors' accounts of no value? Make up your mind. Combined with what I have already stated, Stop right there. You're using accounts that you've previously dismissed as being of "no value" to support your position. Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Moreover, as I pointed out, the first link you provided dismisses the testimony from the second (and half of the testimony from the third) as unbelievable, and the remainder of the testimony in the third link doesn't implicate either side for starting the fire, so it's of no aid to you. and apparently you have missed, with the resources and open intimidation of lethal force by public servants, military, police, etc. only fools could oppose these lethal forces without escaping death ... Well, yes, if by "opposing" you mean "armed opposition", but several of the Branch Davidians did peacefully leave the compound unharmed during the stand-off... You want absolutes when it is the very nature of the criminals to hide their crimes ... No, I just expect accusations to be supported by evidence, not speculation. Waco was a simple illegal home invasion perpetrated by government ... they got their asses handed to them and had to murder the resisters in a show of force. "Had to"? Why? I'd say that is pretty criminal fare done by tyrants worldwide ... you seem to feel it is OK when American public servants do crimes. No, I don't. But I also don't feel it's OK to revise history. That is all which has happened, that is all that happening ... Regards, JS You are moron with desperate arguments ... watch Waco Rules of Engagement, if you can't figure out Waco was a total crime for the reasons already mentioned, you are simply attempting to pursue a "last man standing argument", a tool of fools who have already lost the argument and now fall upon their last hope ... Your posturing aside, you failed to address anything I said above, including your attempt to support your position with testimony you've already dismissed as valueless. It doesn't seem like I'm the desperate moron here. |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attack by the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocent people by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:47:50 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 4/26/2011 11:42 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:56:18 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:54 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:01 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 10:13 AM, raven1 wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, John wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:58 AM, raven1 wrote: ... Do you wonder why most people regard Conspiracy Theorists as nuts? Really? Yes, actually. To tell you the truth, the motives behind any crime I have ever seen in life is/are drugs, money, power, wealth and rock and roll ... And you think which was the motive here? Criminals can keep coming up with a range of bizarre "motives", I find this humorous ... but sad. Regards, JS The facts and data surrounding Waco only prepared us for the future crimes. How so? No, really, I'm interested in your "logic" here. The next false flag operation may enslave us, or set of a real revolution. It only depends if enough know what has been going on. A single video, waco rules of engagement, pushes Waco far above a simple conspiracy! Regards, JS You are stuck in a circular argument, the evidence prove Waco a crime, a lot of the evidence has been pointed out here, bullets, CS gas, tanks/fires, filmed shooting of fleeing Waco victims, bull dozing of evidence, etc. As I pointed out, anyone watching Waco Rules of Engagement will have this pointed out to them. Non-responsive answer duly noted. Ignoring morons is one of my specialties ... I note that this is the third time you've evaded answering the same question. If you're unable or unwilling to defend your position, why bother posting? Yes, it has already been stated ... If by "stated" you mean "evaded" perhaps. Waco Rules of Engagement covers all well ... In another post in this thread, you provided three links, one of which discounted the credibility of the other two, so forgive me if I'm unconvinced that any citation you give will cover everything well. |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massacre
On Apr 25, 4:24*pm, RHF wrote:
NOTE : Trying To Blame Reagan Instead of Clinton/Reno -remember- That Clinton/Reno Gave "The Orders" -and- Reagan Was In a Hospital Bed By Then -you-lose- The orders she gave were based on lies made by Republicans in the ATF and FBI. The only mistake she made was in taking Republicans at their word of honor. |
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On Apr 25, 11:38*pm, "fergo" wrote:
.. . . . . - - "John Smith" wrote in message - - The government, when it went in, had no intention - - of letting koresh escape, alive! - - - - We have nothing to fear but our own public servants - - serving others interests ... .. . . . . - Rubbish, he could have let them arrest him on day 1 - and none of the deaths would have happened. - Instead he let his brainwashed followers of the cult die. FERGO, Keep Repeating The Government Cover-Story and the Concealment of the Real Facts and the Honest Truth. -cult-of-the-government- -brainwashed-by-the-government- |
The 18th Anniversary of the Waco Massac The unprovoked attackby the ATF, the month long seighe and Massacre of a church full of innocentpeople by the Bloated Gargoyle Bill Clinton
On Apr 26, 10:20*am, Peter Franks wrote:
On 4/26/2011 9:43 AM, John Smith wrote: On 4/25/2011 11:38 PM, fergo wrote: ... We have nothing to fear but our own public servants serving others interests ... Rubbish, he could have let them arrest him on day 1 and none of the deaths would have happened. Instead he let his brainwashed followers of the cult die. They are heroes and patriots. And, while their sacrifices are horrible, possibly necessary, it make the criminal nature of our public servants to be placed high for all to see and their crimes made obvious. Because to them, we all were highly awake and aware when 9/11 was perpetrated on Americans. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. ... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion; what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." -- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787 Some would rather die free and upholding their freedoms, rights and liberties and this makes our pussy public servants **** their pants ... - The ATF attempted to executed an illegal and false search warrant; the - Davidians responded as if under attack (they were) and were subsequently - murdered. - - I am not a sympathizer with Koresh, his teachings, or practices, however - in this case, they were the victims of a militarized government in an - unjustified action. |
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