On May 8, 3:06*pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 8, 4:21 am, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 8, 1:55 am, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 7, 9:04 pm, John Smith wrote:
On 5/7/2011 5:12 PM, joeturn wrote:

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but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears
which
is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Jon Bobble spell check that for me mine is broken TIAI;-)

The properties exhibited by thermite bear a signature which
absolutely
proves it to be man made.

For example: *You can stack a bunch of rocks together and form a
wall.
Or, men can cut, polish, etc. rocks into geometric shapes and build
a
wall.

You will NEVER be likely to confuse the two stone walls, nor lack
ability to recognize the difference between the two ...

Regards,
JS

Very true and THERMATE was the military patented grade of THERMITE
used for incenterary devices in WWII super quick cutting through
armor

So tell me, how exactly did they manage to get several tons of
thermite
into
the building, expose the necessary girders, set the devices, and
manage
to
control them *all with absolutely no one noticing or spilling the
beans
later? Further, how exactly do you manage to cause the visible point
of
failure to be exactly the aircraft impact site, and how exactly do you
manage to protect the devices from all that damage and fire while
still
providing 100% reliability?

Sorry, but seems to me that explanation leaves a lot to be desired and
based
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Sprayed on Asbestos was used to protect them from the elements.

Sorry, but that doesn't prevent physical damage nor does it prevent heat
damage given a hot enough fire and/or enough time.

So once again, I ask how can you protect them against the impact of an
airliner, subsequent fires and of course be utterly inconspicuous.

The girders are roof members of little consiquence.

I see, so your idea of how to collapse a skyscraper is to collapse the
roof.....and you think the official story doesn't consider reality....

No you claimed the roof members brought down the builds when you said
girder. I said roof members were of little consiquence as it has to be
the verticle support columns thyat has to be cut for weakoning a
structure for collapse!

Hate to tell you this but girders exist in places other than the roof.

Further, it's going to be quite difficult if not impossible to use thermite
to cut a column since thermite tends to cut only in a downwards direction..
As such, your reaction compounds would simply drip off a column as soon as
you started the reaction and next to nothing would be accomplished.

Oh, and FYI, doesn't explain why in at least one case the visible point
of
failure is clearly the sight of the impact from the airliner.

It was an explosion from the inside and a smoke screen to conciel any
damage,which there was none!

Right, and the plane flying into that spot was just ... what? mass hypnosis
and illusions captured on video?

This was a farce there were preset exposives along that area of said
impact with a line of piping to create the smoke scene.

NO PLANES WERE USED!

Right, so where did all the aircraft wreckage come from?

Sorry, but you're a loon and simply not worth the time to talk to.

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All the airplanes wreckage came from the scrapyard most like because
none of it was identified as anypart of the said airliners mentioned!
The engine found managed to miss the roof and the awning it was found
under and it was from an early model jet used in the Vietnam War,not
large enough for a 757 nor 727.

In the construction world a girder is a solid support the roof or
sheet panels not the vertical columns,thus cant be of any significance
since the buildings collasped in their own foot prints. if the girts
were melted it would have caused the building to sway and fall over
like a tree instead of down like controlled demolition!

On May 8, 7:55*pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 8:59 AM, John Smith wrote:

On 5/8/2011 5:04 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

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1 1/4 pound in each tower, hidden in a VERY special super sekrit place.

Then, 30 years later, tell the pilots to hit "just above" those specific
floors, or the cause is kaput!

This paper proves it was used, thermite, and much, MUCH MORE than 1.25
lbs. ROFLOL
...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v...deed_Did_the_W...

Neglected the link stated ... corrected.

You neglected to think, you retard!
You will never be able to, you retard.

You posted no proof, you retard.
* Where are the receipts, you retard?
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It was the Government that was guilty and they seem to have diplomatic
immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone has been
charged. They are in control of all three branches of government the
Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can get a judge to
try a case against their government that would be declared
treason.Anything that gets excepted as a casae gets dismissed.Bush got
his cousin to throw the case against him out.The lady knew she was
meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no plane hit the
Pentagon. This is the smoking gun is the missile attack at the
Pentagon and the shills are full force keeping that from the public!

On May 8, 8:03*pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

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You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you retard?

Really?

Yes, really!



Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!

On May 8, 11:11*pm, joeturn wrote:
On May 8, 8:03*pm, Jim Kale wrote:





John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

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You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you retard?

Really?

Yes, really!

Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -

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Example of our Kangaroo Court System

http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com...feld/#more-551

http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com...ions/#more-566

"joeturn" wrote in message
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On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:





On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

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Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7, never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer | Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
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but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.


So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.

"joeturn" wrote in message
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On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?

Really?

Yes, really!



Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty

Proof?

Didn't think you had any.

and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!

On May 9, 7:15*pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

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Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7, never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. *THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer * * * * | *Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
*| *The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -

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but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

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You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.

During a controlled demolition the columns are fitted with a yoke that
contains the thermite and holds it on the targeted column on about a
45 degree angle. This angle cut allows the top part to slip off its
base and drop straight down. You can see clear pictures of these
angled cuts on the columns. You would never use your torch to cut an
angled cut on a beam unless it was for a specific outcome. Scot your
just going to have to wake up and realize you have been dupped by your
National Socialist Government!

On May 9, 7:26*pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?

Really?

Yes, really!

Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty

Proof?

Didn't think you had any.



and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -

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PS the spheres found at the WTC complex was from the Government grade
of THERMITE called THERMATE only excessible from the Government
inventory!

On May 9, 7:26*pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?

Really?

Yes, really!

Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty

Proof?

Didn't think you had any.



and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -

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The fbi released a five frame video that shows a missile in
flight.That missile has a rocket plume behind it.It all so shows the
left behing explosion of the first rocket hit and another one
inflight.So that release has three traces of rockets fired at the
pentagram and funnything it could not display an airplane at all.

Then there is another FOIA relesed by them of a helicopter video that
shows the impact of a rocket but there also was no evidence of any
airplane visible not even a fly over!

There also is a video that shows the missing footaget of the missile
attack! I'll fecth them for you.BRB

On May 9, 7:26*pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?

Really?

Yes, really!

Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty

Proof?

Didn't think you had any.



and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-...layer_embedded

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