On 5/9/2011 10:53 PM, joeturn wrote:
On May 10, 1:34 am, John wrote:
On 5/9/2011 10:29 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
I know for a fact an Ironworker wont cut a column on an angle rather
than straight through because of the time it would take.Who would want
to spend soo much time in all that heat and asbestos dust,when they
could cut the shortest and quicker path and move on to the next cut,a
junkyard man has better since that that!

Ever fall a tree with a chainsaw?

Same angled cut is used to control the direction of fall, else the
worker cutting a long beam is likely to be endangered having to scramble
out of its' way.

No, people cutting beams with a torch would be just as likely to make
angled cuts as demolition workers, and for the same reasons, to control
the direction of movement. With the demolition expert, he is attempting
to shift the building in a predetermined direction, in the case of the
torch/cutter, he is attempting a fall in a predetermined direction ...
neither adds nor subtracts from existing evidence and proof.

But, like I said, those are first responders on the scene, those beams
are cut at angles, and the cleanup crew hasn't gotten there yet ...

Regards,
JS

Thermite was not used for its ability to cause an explosion or to blow
the building apart it was used strickly because of its instantanious
cutting ability in incentarary devices and very quite no loud
explosions.

This is what NIST tried to pull off,to explain away the level of noise
needed to blow a building up. It only had to be loud enough to burn
the columns into! The sheeple swallowed the loud explosion part and
this fed their fancy.

If you quietly cut all the vertical support columns then a minor
explosion creating a jolt would set off the collapse!

Yeah, I see that has nothing to do with the angle of the cuts I was
explaining ... and, we need an independent investigation, not your opinions.

Regards,
JS

On May 10, 1:57*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/9/2011 10:53 PM, joeturn wrote:





On May 10, 1:34 am, John *wrote:
On 5/9/2011 10:29 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
I know for a fact an Ironworker wont cut a column on an angle rather
than straight through because of the time it would take.Who would want
to spend soo much time in all that heat and asbestos dust,when they
could cut the shortest and quicker path and move on to the next cut,a
junkyard man has better since that that!

Ever fall a tree with a chainsaw?

Same angled cut is used to control the direction of fall, else the
worker cutting a long beam is likely to be endangered having to scramble
out of its' way.

No, people cutting beams with a torch would be just as likely to make
angled cuts as demolition workers, and for the same reasons, to control
the direction of movement. *With the demolition expert, he is attempting
to shift the building in a predetermined direction, in the case of the
torch/cutter, he is attempting a fall in a predetermined direction ...
neither adds nor subtracts from existing evidence and proof.

But, like I said, those are first responders on the scene, those beams
are cut at angles, and the cleanup crew hasn't gotten there yet ...

Regards,
JS

Thermite was not used for its ability to cause an explosion or to blow
the building apart it was used strickly because of its instantanious
cutting ability in incentarary devices and very quite no loud
explosions.

This is what NIST tried to pull off,to explain away the level of noise
needed to blow a building up. It only had to be loud enough to burn
the columns into! The sheeple swallowed the loud explosion part and
this fed their fancy.

If you quietly cut all the vertical support columns then a minor
explosion creating a jolt would set off the collapse!

Yeah, I see that has nothing to do with the angle of the cuts I was
explaining ... and, we need an independent investigation, not your opinions.

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

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Who would you get to except a truy investigation. Your National
Socialist Government is in control of what cases goes to court! Trying
to get this idea of yours to declare justice against your Government
is a federal offense and you would be convicted of treason!

Hows that for an opinion?

On May 10, 1:05*am, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 9, 8:51 pm, joeturn wrote:
On May 9, 7:26 pm, "Scout"
wrote:

"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:

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You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?

Really?

Yes, really!

Well, it is simple, prove what you say.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.

* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have
to
answer my questions, you retard.

Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.

ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!

You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?

It was your Government that was guilty

Proof?

Didn't think you had any.

and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why
noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack
at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
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The only thing this guy got wrong was

EVERYTHING. Doesn't have the FIRST clue of how video works and that a video
is actually just a serious of individual pictures and WOW when you slow down
a video enough.....all you see is an individual picture showing NO movement
until suddenly the next picture loads and the object leads across the frame.

Dude, buy a ****ing clue, you're just butt ass stupid and ignorant.

the fuselage.It was not a



fuselage it was the rocket plume the rocket is up front in plain view!
Black nose,white center, black tail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-...layer_embedded

Page two shows the first rocket in a wav just over and over.Did you
see a plane?

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Using the FBI released five frames clearly shows a missile.They just
simply did not do good enough a hachet job on it before they released
it!

On May 10, 1:07*am, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 9, 7:15 pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

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On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and
so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7,
never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. *THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer * * * * | *Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
*| *The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -

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but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning
table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium
used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted
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You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.

Actually, they are. A LOT. In fact in most controlled demolition they are
used.

Even in explosive controlled demolition much of the prep work is done via
these exact sort of cutting torches.

I really suggest you need to STFU and quit simply embarrassing yourself with
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I think your getting embarrist with your Government Shill training
They did not program you to be able to think for yourself and getting
your replys butched is flustrating you!

In article 7059f16f-5fe7-497d-8c34-4baae6a612d7
@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...

On May 9, 11:27*pm, Iarnrod wrote:
On May 9, 6:17*pm, joeturn wrote:





On May 9, 7:15*pm, "Scout"
wrote:

"joeturn" wrote in message

...

On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7, never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. *THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer * * * * | *Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
*| *The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -

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but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

It is a complete physical impossibility for thermite to do what
happened to those buildings. It's not possible. FULL STOP!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.

Thermite is not used in controlled demolition, ever.

During a controlled demolition the columns are fitted with a yoke that
contains the thermite

There is no thermite in controlled demolition, RockHead.

and holds it on the targeted column on about a
45 degree angle. This angle cut allows the top part to slip off its
base and drop straight down. You can see clear pictures of these
angled cuts on the columns. You would never use your torch to cut an
angled cut on a beam unless it was for a specific outcome.

Those beams at Ground Zero were cut with torches AFTER the collapse by
workers cleaning up the debris, kooker. There are PHOTOS and VIDEOS of
them doing this. You are STUPID BEYOND BELIEF.- Hide quoted text -

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Like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO7SvhYI_0Y&NR=1

You really are stupid beyond belief. I love it.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

On 5/9/2011 11:10 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
Who would you get to except a truy investigation. Your National
Socialist Government is in control of what cases goes to court! Trying
to get this idea of yours to declare justice against your Government
is a federal offense and you would be convicted of treason!


Hire 'em. There is a whole slew of them on the 9/11 truth site, as well
as many more who have already been investigating, on their own. How
about making one of 'em Niels Harrit?

Even toss in some people from NIST ... it'll all work out. As long as
it is done with open public scrutiny and all aspects are investigated
and everything is widely open to the world.

You could have Stephen Hawkings review all the data, in the end!

Unless you are completely stupid, you will know a true and complete
investigation ...

Hows that for an opinion?

That one? Well, that one is particularly stupid ...

Regards,
JS

On May 10, 1:07*am, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

...





On May 9, 7:15 pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

....

On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and
so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7,
never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. *THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer * * * * | *Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
*| *The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning
table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium
used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.

Actually, they are. A LOT. In fact in most controlled demolition they are
used.

Even in explosive controlled demolition much of the prep work is done via
these exact sort of cutting torches.


This brings us to the B-thing buch (Israely Art Students)they stayed
in there for a year and a half rent free gutting the building or do
you think they(Bushes Security Employees) took out as much support as
they could while doing their mantinance.There was very little office
equiptment plumbing,wiring,carpet,cell phones,ect in the debree pile!

Scott my audience needs to know these things,you cant do them justise
your just a simple steel worker with no knowledge of controlled
demolition except that which NIST taught you!

How loud does a linear cutting charge have to be to cut through a box
column!

Torches are used in prep work occasionally but not for cutting the
support columns and they certainly dont use nap gas.

On May 10, 2:32*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/9/2011 11:10 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
Who would you get to except a truy investigation. Your National
Socialist Government is in control of what cases goes to court! Trying
to get this idea of yours to declare justice against your Government
is a federal offense and you would be convicted of treason!

Hire 'em. *There is a whole slew of them on the 9/11 truth site, as well
as many more who have already been investigating, on their own. *How
about making one of 'em Niels Harrit?

Even toss in some people from NIST ... it'll all work out. *As long as
it is done with open public scrutiny and all aspects are investigated
and everything is widely open to the world.

You could have Stephen Hawkings review all the data, in the end!

Unless you are completely stupid, you will know a true and complete
investigation ...

Hows that for an opinion?

That one? *Well, that one is particularly stupid ...

Regards,
JS

A lawyer oath demans him be hung for going against his Governmens
Constitution! Bushes cousin threw the case againt Chenney and Rumsfeld
out of court still claiming there was a plane strike at the Pentagram!

Its all cut and dried,its National Socialism brought here by our 41st
President straight from Nazi Germany."Curious George" Sherriff Jr that
name given to him by Tesla, started the CIA.

There has been too many years in the planning to bring about One World
Government,to let a true investigation be presented to the sheeple!

On May 10, 12:33*am, joeturn wrote:
On May 10, 1:07*am, "Scout"



wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

....

On May 9, 7:15 pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

...

On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and
so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7,
never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. *THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer * * * * | *Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
*| *The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning
table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium
used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.

Actually, they are. A LOT. In fact in most controlled demolition they are
used.

Even in explosive controlled demolition much of the prep work is done via
these exact sort of cutting torches.

This brings us to the B-thing buch (Israely Art Students)they stayed
in there for a year and a half rent free gutting the building or do
you think they(Bushes Security Employees) took out as much support as
they could while doing their mantinance.There was very little office
equiptment plumbing,wiring,carpet,cell phones,ect in the debree pile!

Scott my audience needs to know these things,you cant do them justise
your just a simple steel worker with no knowledge of controlled
demolition except that which NIST taught you!

How loud does a linear cutting charge have to be to cut through a box
column!

Torches are used in prep work occasionally but not for cutting the
support columns and they certainly dont use nap gas.

Please stop smoking crack, WrongTurnJoe. Your poor suffering momma
can't take any more!

On May 10, 12:18*am, BDK wrote:
In article 7059f16f-5fe7-497d-8c34-4baae6a612d7
@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...





On May 9, wrote:
On May 9, 6:17*pm, joeturn wrote:

On May 9, 7:15*pm, "Scout"
wrote:

"joeturn" wrote in message

...

On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:

On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:

...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.

I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7, never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?

Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!

Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.

The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. *THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.

--
Ray Fischer * * * * | *Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
*| *The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.

Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

It is a complete physical impossibility for thermite to do what
happened to those buildings. It's not possible. FULL STOP!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.

Thermite is not used in controlled demolition, ever.

During a controlled demolition the columns are fitted with a yoke that
contains the thermite

There is no thermite in controlled demolition, RockHead.

and holds it on the targeted column on about a
45 degree angle. This angle cut allows the top part to slip off its
base and drop straight down. You can see clear pictures of these
angled cuts on the columns. You would never use your torch to cut an
angled cut on a beam unless it was for a specific outcome.

Those beams at Ground Zero were cut with torches AFTER the collapse by
workers cleaning up the debris, kooker. There are PHOTOS and VIDEOS of
them doing this. You are STUPID BEYOND BELIEF.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO7SvhYI_0Y&NR=1

You really are stupid beyond belief. I love it.

He IS pure Komedy Gold, innit he? He is MUCH more amusing than Johnny
KQQK since WrongTurnJoe is too stupid to know he's stupid, more like
an innocent child. Johnny, however, had grown dull and lost his
comedic edge.