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Is There a "FAQ" for the 'Rec.Radio.Shortwave' NewsGroup ? -well- Yes and No or Maybe So...
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Hash: SHA1 In RHF writes: On May 22, 8:24=A0am, Paul W. Schleck wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there an FAQ for this newsgroup? Last update I had heard was from John Kasupski about 3 1/2 years ago. In response to suggestions by other rec.radio.shortwave readers that an update of Ralph Brandi's original version could be useful, he loudly and forcefully insisted that he was the only author of such an FAQ, and no other person should get involved. No such updated FAQ beyond an initial, and incomplete, draft was presented, along with forceful reminders from him that no one else should get involved. =A0Has anything been heard from him, or any other replacement maintainer, since then? - -- Paul W. Schleck /~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (SunOS) iD8DBQFN2Sob6Pj0az779o4RAvAWAJ9FTZQRySkjtEPgEA9mKN I8L56LvQCeKY6i Jz/9dBXeOg+5u8nu9zp88Rk=3D =3Dr5Wz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Paul W. Schleck, The Rec.Radio.Shortwave FAQ Issue -by- John Kasupski http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...cf4461ffd947ef . [...] Is There a "FAQ" for the 'Rec.Radio.Shortwave' NewsGroup ? -well- Yes and No or Maybe So... . Honestly What Good Is A "FAQ" If No One Reads It ? . More Importantly : What Good Is A "FAQ" If No One Follows It ? . and that is something to think about ~ RHF . . RHF, Thank you for your reply. I can see that you are one of the more knowledgeable and helpful posters here on rec.radio.shortwave. The readership definitely owes you a debt of gratitude. While an FAQ wouldn't be noticed and read by all, getting it current and on a regular posting schedule could make it more visible. An FAQ might not be followed by everyone, but might be useful to provide justification for abuse complaints. It may also serve as a good baseline for a charter for the eventual moderated shortwave radio newsgroup. Are there any objections to my suggestion that the 2008 attempt to update Ralph Brandi's original FAQ documents has been abandoned (with the replacement author's links long since broken from an expired Internet domain name) and the project is more or less "up-for-grabs" to any motivated and sincere volunteer? - -- Paul W. Schleck http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (SunOS) iD8DBQFN2+BD6Pj0az779o4RAmuxAJ9G4NNEogH7DVYbIASlnk +HQTSVjQCguGbW nrbXSYcki/7nzS22B3/wNhk= =EpAA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Is There a "FAQ" for the 'Rec.Radio.Shortwave' NewsGroup ? -well-Yes and No or Maybe So...
On Tue, 24 May 2011, Paul W. Schleck wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In RHF writes: On May 22, 8:24=A0am, Paul W. Schleck wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there an FAQ for this newsgroup? Last update I had heard was from John Kasupski about 3 1/2 years ago. In response to suggestions by other rec.radio.shortwave readers that an update of Ralph Brandi's original version could be useful, he loudly and forcefully insisted that he was the only author of such an FAQ, and no other person should get involved. No such updated FAQ beyond an initial, and incomplete, draft was presented, along with forceful reminders from him that no one else should get involved. =A0Has anything been heard from him, or any other replacement maintainer, since then? - -- Paul W. Schleck /~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (SunOS) iD8DBQFN2Sob6Pj0az779o4RAvAWAJ9FTZQRySkjtEPgEA9mKN I8L56LvQCeKY6i Jz/9dBXeOg+5u8nu9zp88Rk=3D =3Dr5Wz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Paul W. Schleck, The Rec.Radio.Shortwave FAQ Issue -by- John Kasupski http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...cf4461ffd947ef . [...] Is There a "FAQ" for the 'Rec.Radio.Shortwave' NewsGroup ? -well- Yes and No or Maybe So... . Honestly What Good Is A "FAQ" If No One Reads It ? . More Importantly : What Good Is A "FAQ" If No One Follows It ? . and that is something to think about ~ RHF . . RHF, Thank you for your reply. I can see that you are one of the more knowledgeable and helpful posters here on rec.radio.shortwave. The readership definitely owes you a debt of gratitude. No, he's the idiot who drove people away. He came in here, and didn't have a clue where he was, posting from google he knew nothing of usenet, but acted like an expert. You can't learn anything by poking in here once. You have to read the newsgroup, and the fact that you don't know anything about RHF is proof that you aren't paying attention to rec.radio.shortwave. The guy spouts off on any topic, just for the sake of spouting off. He pathologically changes subject headers, he seems incapable of simply replying to a post. Witness he changed the subject header when he replied to you. He has no real knowledge, he constantly posts links. Any fool can do a search. Witness that he doesn't know who you are, he even posted a link that you or the moderators of rec.radio.info posted. He feels compelled to reply to everything, whether it's a topic he knows nothing of (but too often he then appears like he knows what he's talking about) or off-topic junk. He has to be top-dog, which means replying with his junk posts even though someone else (who is far more "useful" and "knowledgeable" to this newsgroup than RHF) had already posted the old faq. There was a whole period when he tried to control the newsgroup, while at the very same time was part of the problem. He constantly replies to the political junk, he constantly replies to the cross-posted junk, he replies to everything. He gives approval to the off topic junk He knows nothing of usenet, on more than one accasion he's taken to task the automatically posted posts here, like the one about using the phone line as a sw antenna. He doesn't grasp the point of it, or the validity of an automatic posting. Yet the funny thing is, he is constantly posting the same junk links, rather than doing it more formally, the usenet way. He gives the perception of "knowing things" because he racks up the posts. An idiot who has little to say, but people are dazzled because he posts all those links, because of his endless posts. If you think RHF has validity here, then you have no authority to do anything, because you have no judgement on the matter. Keep out of the newsgroup if you recognize RHF. This used to be a great newsgroup. It did cover the topic it was intended for, radio monitoring. It didn't suffer from idiot hams who thought "shortwave" meant amateur radio (discussing receiving the ham bands is on topic, but just because it takes place on shortwave does not make it relevant). There were posts about AM DXing and FM DXing, both valid under the umbrella that is too specific, but once upon a time one knew what was meant. There was discussion of what was on shortwave, but also the auxiliary bits about shortwave receivers and antennas and propagation. Someone would ask something, and get numerous replies, all going into depth about what was asked, not some idiot posting links to elsewhere that is now seen as content. People who weren't around back then cheer "RHF" because they don't know what it was like, don't know what RHF has driven off with his idiocy. In the absence of the good posters, of course RHF appears to be useful, but don't give him credit, ask where the good posters have gone. Since he's driven off the good posters, then he can appear as "king". Of course there was a period when there was transition, I remember some thread on something more technical, the Wadley loop or maybe synchronous detection, and the village idiot, another poster who abuses the newsgroup had to put in his two cents, completely irrelevant. And the political drivel only came through cross-posting. Then it started declining, which in itself wouldn't have been a bad idea. But instead, the political posts came. Most of the remaining "regulars" post all they want about political junk, they've even given up the pretense of pretending it's relevant because it's discussed on the radio. That includes the idiot RHF. Back when I thought there was still a chance of saving the newsgroup, RHF would whine if someone spanked him for being off topic, claiming the idiocy of "free speech". The idiots claiming that right virtually never know what they are talking about, they think it means talking about what they want where they want. They have killed free speech in this newsgroup, because the people who wanted to talk about shortwave listening have left, their right to "free speech" about listening to radio drowned out by the idiot "free speech" people who want to talk about politics, or even any topic but shortwave listening. RHF is not knowledgeable. I remember when he was trying to control the newsgroup, by chastizing posters rather than being an example, and someone posted something about propagation, and RHF took him to task. The idiot was trying to decide what was on topic or not, yet didn't have the skill to know when someone was talking about something relevant. So all the old posters are gone, leaving the idiots remaining. They see it as a hangout, so they post about whatever they like. There was a period when new people were still coming in, and I remember one idiot coming here and asking something relevant, then trying to fit in by posting something about movies. He had lousy examples, since the regulars were doing it. That was when there was still hope for the newsgroup, I chastized that idiot for posting off topic. Then later, when I posted about something related to AM DXing, the idiot came after me, since he was too clueless to know what the newsgroup was about, but thought the "shortwave" meant it was only about shortwave You're as much an idiot as RHF if you think there's a need for a moderated newsgroup. Look what happened when you started a moderated newsgroup for amateur radio. Virtually no posts. The choice isn't moderated (which you love) or "anarchy" it's about running idiots like RHF out of town. We let him take over, initially we could have stomped him good but we let him do as he pleased, until it drove off the good posters and left a shallow and messy newsgroup. There was a period of hope for this newsgroup, when the idiot RHF suddenly disappeared, a year or so ago. And some of us came back, briefly, though not initially since it seemed too likely that it was temporary. And it was, albeit a few months absence. Right away he was back to his usual posting habits. There is no hope for this newsgroup until RHF leaves, or is slapped down hard enough that he doesn't reply to cross-posts, doesn't post off topic, doesn't constantly change subject headers, doesn't demean people by putting their names in subject headers, doesn't give approval to the "free speechers". doesn't automatically feel a need to reply to every post. Get him in line to actually form a proper post, I might take him more seriously if he made even that change. And get him to stop quoting a long post rather than simply quoting what's relevant. Another google-centric view, he is clueless that the rest of us have to scroll through the junk to see the actual reply, on google the quoting can be hidden. Next time before you butt in here, do some proper research by actually reading the newsgroup for a reasonable length of time. After all, that used to be netiquette, "read the newsgroup for a reasonable time to get a feel for it before posting". Michael |
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Is There a "FAQ" for the 'Rec.Radio.Shortwave' NewsGroup ? -well-Yes and No or Maybe So...
On 5/24/2011 10:24 AM, Michael Black wrote:
... Michael Your mental disorder seems to be causing you to become obsessive on RHF, indeed, to the point of placing him in a villains' role. We are now familiar with your opinion of RHF, what you find to be his short-comings, the fact you don't approve of his posting style, that you don't like him going off topic, your appraisal of his psychological "disorders", what you consider to have been his mistakes in posting, complaints about the "coverage area" of his posts -- i.e., AM/FM related posts, etc. I mean, your complaints, about RHF, are really too numerous to deal with. In the end, it is like, I DON'T CARE! In the least, I find his sanity to be a better companion here than yours ... Others mileage will vary ... But you, your post(s) define you, someone I would not want for a neighbor, someone who looks like a person with many petty gripes and complaints, etc. I look at you and it makes me thankful for the neighbors, friends and family I have ... you just seem like a different flavor of a control freak who must have the order in your world , at all costs. Setting up a proper receiver, antenna, listening station and the few and dwindling SW stations left, and their narrowing of coverage of subjects, are just not something which volumes and volumes can be written upon ... diversion is good for the mind ... Regards, JS |
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