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On 11-06-01 08:42 PM, Iarnrod wrote:
On Jun 1, 5:29 pm, corneal pyec...@Use-Author-Supplied-
Address.invalid wrote:
On 11-06-01 08:16 AM,Iarnrodwrote:

On May 31, 10:57 pm, wrote:

Wrong . He was claimed to be dead FOUR times before the heavily
publicized 2011 'death' ...

No he wasn't. Moron twoofers running around the past few years
claiming UBL was dead doesn't actually constitute a legitimate claim.
It's just your own echo chamber rattling back your insanities at you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm

Thursday, 18 July, 2002, 09:15 GMT 10:15 UK
Bin Laden 'probably' dead

The US Federal Bureau of Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale
Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead.

(Moron twoofer?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ma-Bin-Laden-d...

The theory first received an airing in the American Spectator magazine
earlier this year when former U.S. foreign intelligence officer and
senior editor Angelo M. Codevilla, a professor of international
relations at Boston University, stated bluntly: 'All the evidence
suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.'

(Moron twoofer?)

There are other doubters, too. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke
University's religious studies' department and the foremost Bin Laden
expert, argues that the increasingly secular language in the video and
audio tapes of Osama (his earliest ones are littered with references to
God and the Prophet Mohammed) are inconsistent with his strict Islamic
religion, Wahhabism.

(Moron twoofer?)

This week, still more questions have been raised with the publication in
America and Britain of a book called Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?

Written by political analyst and philosopher Professor David Ray
Griffin, former emeritus professor at California's Claremont School of
Theology, it is provoking shock waves - for it goes into far more detail
about his supposed death and suggests there has been a cover-up by the
West.

The book claims that Bin Laden died of kidney failure, or a linked
complaint, on December 13, 2001, while living in Afghanistan's Tora Bora
mountains close to the border with Waziristan.

His burial took place within 24 hours, in line with Muslim religious
rules, and in an unmarked grave, which is a Wahhabi custom.

(Moron twoofer?)

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Yes, all obviously were wrong.

But were they, to quote your claim, "Moron twoofers"?

You can't argue with FACTS, even though
that's what you moron twoofers do day in and day out.

Those are factual cites of expert opinion of the day.

SPECULATION by people does not constitute FACT, idiot.

No such claim has been made,

All that has occurred is that evidence of credible experts opining
regarding bin Laden's status was disseminated through the mainstream
media.

Let's return now to your claim, that "Moron twoofers" were "running
around" and feeding some kind of "echo chamber".

The real world tote shows we have:

1. The FBI's counter-terrorism chief.

2. A former US intelligence officer and BU profesor.

3. The foremost bin Laden exert and a Duke professor.

4. A political analyst and a philosophy professor.

Yep, and absolutely NONE of them stated that Osama was positively,
absolutely and conclusively dead. They all included wiggle words, such as
appears, or seems, or based on the evidence, etc. In short NONE of them
stated he was factually DEAD.

Further, most of them seemed to be expressing their OPINION of his status
rather than any factual knowledge that they absolutely knew he was dead.

Really, until you can separate opinion from fact, and not overlook the
wiggle words that turns a statement into something non-conclusive or
binding, you're never going to be able to separate out what is actually
factual from mere assertions.