JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 

On Jun 8, 2:18*am, wrote:
On Jun 8, 1:00*am, Olrik wrote:





On 2011-06-07 14:09, John Smith wrote:

On 6/7/2011 10:31 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Perhaps you should read his words again so you could begin
to understand that the "gravitational ether" was a
convenient way to think of the deformation of spacetime by
matter and energy, not a physical medium such as was
demonstrated to be nonexistent by Michaelson and Morley (and
others). And this is neither a tangent nor a circle; it's
the heart of the matter.

Einstein considers it un-ponderable, he claims to NOT understand the
properties of ether, he indicates, at this present time, we can attempt
to observe how in "interacts" with our matter to deduce its' properties.

However, without a doubt, its' ability to support the propagation of
light (and therefore RF) is a given fact ...

You simply attempt to stick your ideas, visions, opinion of what ether
is and have Einstein take the blame for it.

And, an excellent example of the tangents and circle you navigate with
your spin-doctoring ...

It is both my opinion and observation that there is some kinda of
interaction with ether and metal antennas (and other conductive
substances, elements.) It is here that RF "rings" the ether and begins
the propagation of the RF wave/particles ... the experts approach this
is a much more subtle manner than the words I choose.

I'll nominate you for a Nobel Prize in physics for 2012.

You just proved, without a doubt, that satellite TV and GPS receivers do
not work as advertised!

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Well,well,well . What about all the contraptions (thousands of them )
that are littering the space around the Solar System ? Some of these
buggers were launched 20-30 years ago . And they ALL communicate
(unless they broke down) with ground control through empty space .
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Try billions of miles for the Voyagers, still calling home
every day.

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 

On 6/7/2011 1:33 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:


I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent
creator a strong possibility!



Even if I concede that is what Einstein meant, (I don't)
all that does is move the goalpost...Who created the creator?

To me, anyone who is capable of free thought and is intellectually
honest will admit that they just don't know the answer to the question
of what started everything.

To say 'god did it', is just giving up.

Correct. And unlike organized religion, science has no
problem with admitting lack of knowledge, or with research
to discover reality.



How's that old saying go?
"Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers
that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it.




--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 

On 6/7/2011 1:37 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:



LOL...My youngest daughter recently announced to me that she was
a Buddhist. She claimed it wasn't a religion. I asked her if the
Buddha had superpowers. She said that he did.

I suspect that she's confused. No superpowers (AFAIK) are
ascribed to Guatama by Buddhism; he was an enlightened
teacher, not a deity.


I thought Buddha flew around...No?

Also, didn't he sit under a tree a long time?
Like, a REAL long time?







--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 

On 6/7/2011 1:37 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:


I suspect that she's confused. No superpowers (AFAIK) are
ascribed to Guatama by Buddhism; he was an enlightened
teacher, not a deity.


Another thing about Buddha....Didn't he run out on his
wife and infant son to hang out with his buddies ?

I'm just saying......








--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

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On 6/8/2011 2:24 AM, HVAC wrote:

...
How's that old saying go?
"Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers
that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it.


Sounds about right, they are of differing purposes, one to deduce and
understand the mind of the creator and the laws he established in the
universe.

The other a set of rules and commandments meant to establish order over
successful societies.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

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John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 3:19 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:16:02 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/7/2011 10:48 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Diety? Same circle? Again? Isn't "deity" the equivalent of "God?"

Is it? Is Thor "God"? How about Shiva? Zeus?

Do you wish to purchase a clue?

snip transference idiocy

Again, I tied "deity" to "creator" and "God", and took it for
granted I would be speaking who are rooted in reality ...

Reality is the belief by millions, past and present, in the
existence of thousands of deities, most whom aren't referred
to as "God". Language isn't your first language, is it?

If the set of false-pseudo-deities are thrown in, we are back again
to your attempting to go out on tangents and run back to the same
religious focus at the center of most of your post ...

Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle...

As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing, before
your erratic changes in tangents and your circles of thought and text,
was, and, is the creator mentioned by Einstein.


Except for the minor fact that Einstein didnt believe in "God"
and said so many times.


Keith

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On 6/8/2011 3:17 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:12:11 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/7/2011 10:25 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
I ascribe no such properties to the vacuum; the properties
are those of EM radiation, which requires no medium for
propagation; in fact, any such medium, from air to glass,
slows the apparent velocity of such radiation. Only in a
vacuum is it equal to c. You seem to consistently miss this
point.
...

Yes, as you have consistently done, present your personal beliefs and
opinions, attempt to spin-doctor what others have said, deny the
wave/particle theory, etc.

I have done none of these. It's a fact (observed and tested
many times) that EM radiation requires no propagation
medium, and wave-particle duality (which I don't deny,
regardless of your unsupported assertion to the contrary)
has absolutely zero to do with that fact.

Insane, buy hey, it is a free country ...

Oh, the irony...

Pointing out that you are claiming exactly opposite to all recognized
and accepted laws of physics pertaining to the theory of relativity and
established by Einstein is in error?

Only if you have not read the links which contain Einsteins exact words
.... the power of morons to deny the truth has never been questioned, and
you give an excellent example of it.

So, we are done, you simply came to deny the truths -- you could have
saved us all a lot of trouble by being honest right up front ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

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On 6/8/2011 4:09 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 3:19 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:16:02 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/7/2011 10:48 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Diety? Same circle? Again? Isn't "deity" the equivalent of "God?"

Is it? Is Thor "God"? How about Shiva? Zeus?

Do you wish to purchase a clue?

snip transference idiocy

Again, I tied "deity" to "creator" and "God", and took it for
granted I would be speaking who are rooted in reality ...

Reality is the belief by millions, past and present, in the
existence of thousands of deities, most whom aren't referred
to as "God". Language isn't your first language, is it?

If the set of false-pseudo-deities are thrown in, we are back again
to your attempting to go out on tangents and run back to the same
religious focus at the center of most of your post ...

Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle...

As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing, before
your erratic changes in tangents and your circles of thought and text,
was, and, is the creator mentioned by Einstein.


Except for the minor fact that Einstein didnt believe in "God"
and said so many times.


Keith



You have ADHD too?

Einstein believed in a creator, the links have been posted, anyone, and
with a simple google search, can confirm that.

You simply want to have a religious argument centered around some
specific religion, or religions, beliefs ... I don't see anyone here who
has an interest in discussing religion in place of hard physics.

Perhaps your revelations and epiphanies on God would be better
appreciated elsewhere?

Regards,
JS


--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

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On 6/8/2011 6:52 PM, John Smith wrote:

LOL! That's funny dude. You really, truly believe that some
unknown entity 'created' the universe? Really?

So, who created him?

Haven't you ever thought this through?


Did you just wake up?

Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has?

And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.



Do you really think we have not been considering the properties of the
creator of the universe also?


Again, there is zero evidence for ether and zero evidence for god.

Coincidence? I think not.






--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

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On 6/8/2011 6:55 PM, John Smith wrote:


Interesting new tact

That would probably be "tack", O Wise One:

"tact (t²kt) n. 1. Acute sensitivity to what is proper and
appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to
speak or act without offending."

"tack1 (t²k) n. ...
1. Nautical. a. To change the direction or course of a
vessel: ready to tack on the captain's signal. b. To change
tack: The ship tacked to starboard. 2. To change one's
course of action. [Middle English tak, fastener, from Old
North French taque, probably of Germanic origin.]"

If not, thanks for the compliment.

, you have tossed in, agree with what I am pointing
out and, yet, claim it is differing ... still, just a version of the
strawman argument ... how limited ...

Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?

You mean, you are still unaware that, the courses (directions for you)
of your text appear to take the paths of a drunken sailor walking them?
Zigzags, circles, tangents, etc.?

Dream on ... it is plain to see ...


John... You made a mistake. Admit it and move on.










--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo