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Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear WinnersAgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
On Aug 10, 10:04*am, m II wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: Every Republican is a liar. *It's a congenital defect from massive inbreeding. No need to sink to the acehole's level. You're better equipped to express yourself. mike *signature.asc 1KViewDownload So I'm just curious - what do we object to here? The "Republicans are liars" thing, which is arguably true, or the "inbreeding" thing, which is obviously a crude joke? I don't understand why the knee-jerk conservatives can make one disgraceful comment about liberals after another, including veiled threats to kill them, and when a liberal does it he gets picked on by everyone? The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut with a jackhammer. Bruce |
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear WinnersAgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
On Aug 10, 10:57*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 8/10/11 12:32 , MNMikew wrote: "D. Peter *wrote in message ... On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote: Every Republican is a liar. *It's a congenital defect from massive inbreeding. * *You're better than that, Bruce. Not really. * * Actually, he's generally more reasoned than this outburst. He and I may disagree, but I rarely see this kind of bitterness. If there is bitterness, it is because the problem of human-forced climate change has been KNOWN for decades by scientists across the political spectrum, before Al Gore, even before you or I were born, and there wasn't any frigging serious controversy about the ethics or basic science of it until the oil companies caught wind of it and started pumping $billions into propaganda campaigns against honest, intelligent scientists - and showing their absolute lust for greed and total contempt for humanity, the natural world and all of its inhabitants. When we were becoming equipped to actually handle the problem, the demagogues decided their profits were more important than the planet, and came out with all the BS. On this matter, yes, I am bitter. Bruce Jensen |
(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
On Aug 10, 2:07*pm, RHF wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:46*am, bpnjensen wrote: - On Aug 10, 3:13*am, RHF wrote: *. Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debatehttp://groups.google..com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376 -posted-by- ka6uup -and-reply-by- Bruce Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41? *. - - One Must Begin To Ask... - - - - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores - - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ? - - - - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming ! - - - - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF - - *. - - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4 - - *. - - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898 - - *. - - *. - You're an uneducated idiot. BpnJ, You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee :o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th... You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of 'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}} Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85 *. LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA : IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.] -wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61 *. *. Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and completely innaccurate. Please educate yourself wity something other than Faux News. |
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners AgainstGlobalWarming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
On 8/11/11 10:27 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:04 am, "D. Peter wrote: On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote: Every Republican is a liar. It's a congenital defect from massive inbreeding. You're better than that, Bruce. Sorry - I was just responding to Steve's silliness ;-) Mike Myers says that silliness is a State of Grace. One of the reasons so many people are so angry and tense is that they've lost their silly. |
(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote: On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote: - On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote: . Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376 -posted-by- ka6uup -and-reply-by- Bruce Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41? . - - One Must Begin To Ask... - - - - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores - - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ? - - - - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming ! - - - - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF - - . - - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4 - - . - - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898 - - . - - . - You're an uneducated idiot. BpnJ, You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee :o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th... You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of 'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}} Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85 . LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA : IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.] -wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61 . . Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and completely innaccurate. Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said it at the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose. He's said it numerous places. Please educate yourself wity something other than Faux News. |
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners AgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
"bpnjensen" wrote in message ... On Aug 10, 10:59 am, "MNMikew" wrote: "D. Peter Maus" wrote in ... On 8/10/11 12:32 , MNMikew wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote: Every Republican is a liar. It's a congenital defect from massive inbreeding. You're better than that, Bruce. Not really. Actually, he's generally more reasoned than this outburst. He and I may disagree, but I rarely see this kind of bitterness. Most AGW alarmists are pretty bitter.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Again, MnMike is a person who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, making believe he does. ------------------ Thanks for proving my point. |
(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
On Aug 11, 10:28*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote: On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, *wrote: On Aug 10, 8:46 am, *wrote: - On Aug 10, 3:13 am, *wrote: * . Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376 -posted-by- ka6uup -and-reply-by- Bruce Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41? * . - - One Must Begin To Ask... - - - - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores - - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ? - - - - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming ! - - - - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF - - *. - - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4 - - *. - - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898 - - *. - - *. - You're an uneducated idiot. BpnJ, You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee :o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th... You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of 'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}} Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85 * . LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA : IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.] -wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61 * . * . Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely irrelevant. *The settled science part are your words, not mine, and completely innaccurate. * *Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. *He said it at the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose. * *He's said it numerous places. Please educate yourself wity something other than Faux News.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As I said before, *Al Gore is irrelevant to the actual issue*. He is only a messenger. To blithely discredit 150 years of long and thoughtful research by physicists, meterologists, climatologists, oceanographers, mathematicians and astronomers, peer review after peer review of every single hypothesis vetted to the nth degree, and a science which freely admits that it still must answer some of the more intractable questions to provide a complete picture - as every true science does, every time - because you don't like the messenger - is just ugly, unscientific politics. To do it because of greedy, narcissistic motives is reprehensible and immoral. Science has given us EVERY good thing we have beyond basic food, water and land. We love our PCs and radios and TVs and transportation and modern medicine and thank science for it, and rightfully so. However, science is not always the bearer of benign or conveniently profitable news. Sometimes it brings us bad news, sometimes news that even challenges the existing power structure. Galileo and Darwin challenged the church (and some willful people, to this day, still disagree with both of these guys) - but their basic science is sound, as is all true science, and has eventually won the day. Like the science of Galileo and Darwin, the science of human-induced climate change challenges the existing power structrure - nowadays, concentrated wealth like the Koch Brothers and big oil/coal - and consequently their propaganda machines are working in overtime to preserve their power. As a result, Al Gore is bad and = climate change science, and no-nothing reporters at Faux and Drudge are the experts after spending zero years in actual research. History repeats itself, and we have fallen into the same old trap of ignorance and rebellion against inconvenience at the behest of the powerful. The difference, this time, is that the fate of many forms of life on the planet, as well as the security and well-being of billions of people, hang in the balance. Ignore Al Gore if you don't like him. He's just a politician. But the science was, and is, conducted as it should be, and like all true science that takes time and effort, is gradually yielding the correct answer. We ridicule and ignore it at our own peril. Bruce Jensen |
(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To His Head !
"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message ... On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote: On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote: On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote: - On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote: . Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376 -posted-by- ka6uup -and-reply-by- Bruce Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41? . - - One Must Begin To Ask... - - - - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores - - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ? - - - - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming ! - - - - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF - - . - - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4 - - . - - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898 - - . - - . - You're an uneducated idiot. BpnJ, You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee :o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th... You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of 'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}} Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85 . LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA : IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.] -wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61 . . Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and completely innaccurate. Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said it at the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose. He's said it numerous places. And he's wrong. Just like any other idiot who says it. |
(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To His Head !
"bpnjensen" wrote in message ... On Aug 11, 10:28 am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote: On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote: On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote: On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote: - On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote: . Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376 -posted-by- ka6uup -and-reply-by- Bruce Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41? . - - One Must Begin To Ask... - - - - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores - - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ? - - - - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming ! - - - - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF - - . - - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4 - - . - - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898 - - . - - . - You're an uneducated idiot. BpnJ, You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee :o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th... You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of 'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}} Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85 . LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA : IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.] -wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61 . . Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and completely innaccurate. Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said it at the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose. He's said it numerous places. Please educate yourself wity something other than Faux News.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - As I said before, *Al Gore is irrelevant to the actual issue*. He is only a messenger. To blithely discredit 150 years of long and thoughtful research by physicists, meterologists, climatologists, oceanographers, mathematicians and astronomers, peer review after peer review of every single hypothesis vetted to the nth degree, and a science which freely admits that it still must answer some of the more intractable questions to provide a complete picture - as every true science does, every time - because you don't like the messenger - is just ugly, unscientific politics. To do it because of greedy, narcissistic motives is reprehensible and immoral. Science has given us EVERY good thing we have beyond basic food, water and land. We love our PCs and radios and TVs and transportation and modern medicine and thank science for it, and rightfully so. However, science is not always the bearer of benign or conveniently profitable news. Sometimes it brings us bad news, sometimes news that even challenges the existing power structure. Galileo and Darwin challenged the church (and some willful people, to this day, still disagree with both of these guys) - but their basic science is sound, as is all true science, and has eventually won the day. Like the science of Galileo and Darwin, the science of human-induced climate change challenges the existing power structrure - nowadays, concentrated wealth like the Koch Brothers and big oil/coal - and consequently their propaganda machines are working in overtime to preserve their power. As a result, Al Gore is bad and = climate change science, and no-nothing reporters at Faux and Drudge are the experts after spending zero years in actual research. History repeats itself, and we have fallen into the same old trap of ignorance and rebellion against inconvenience at the behest of the powerful. The difference, this time, is that the fate of many forms of life on the planet, as well as the security and well-being of billions of people, hang in the balance. Ignore Al Gore if you don't like him. He's just a politician. But the science was, and is, conducted as it should be, and like all true science that takes time and effort, is gradually yielding the correct answer. We ridicule and ignore it at our own peril. Bruce Jensen -------------------- And thus we get at the crux of the Church of Global Warming. Class warfare. And don't forget your PCs, radios, TVs, transportation and modern medicine would not exist without evil oil. |
(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
On Aug 11, 11:08*am, "MNMikew" wrote:
"D. Peter Maus" wrote in ... On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote: On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, *wrote: On Aug 10, 8:46 am, *wrote: - On Aug 10, 3:13 am, *wrote: * . Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376 -posted-by- ka6uup -and-reply-by- Bruce Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41? * . - - One Must Begin To Ask... - - - - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores - - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ? - - - - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming ! - - - - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF - - *. - - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4 - - *. - - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM ! - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898 - - *. - - *. - You're an uneducated idiot. BpnJ, You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee :o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th... You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of 'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}} Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another Inconvenient Truth !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85 * . LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA : IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.] -wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61 * . * . Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely irrelevant. *The settled science part are your words, not mine, and completely innaccurate. * Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. *He said it at the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose. * He's said it numerous places. And he's wrong. Just like any other idiot who says it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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