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bpnjensen August 11th 11 08:05 PM

(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
 
On Aug 11, 11:42*am, "MNMikew" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

...
On Aug 11, 10:28 am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:





On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote:


On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote:
- On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote:
.
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners
Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC
Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376
-posted-by- ka6uup
-and-reply-by- Bruce
Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41?
.
- - One Must Begin To Ask...
- -
- - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores
- - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ?
- -
- - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming !
- -
- - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF
- - .
- - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4
- - .
- - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898
- - .
- - .


- You're an uneducated idiot.


BpnJ,


You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee
:o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th...


You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of
'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}}


Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another
Inconvenient Truth
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85
.
LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATE MANTRA :
IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.]
-wrt- Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61
.
.


Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely
irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and
completely innaccurate.


Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said
it at the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose.


He's said it numerous places.


Please educate yourself wity something other


than Faux News.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


As I said before, *Al Gore is irrelevant to the actual issue*. *He is
only a messenger. *To blithely discredit 150 years of long and
thoughtful research by physicists, meterologists, climatologists,
oceanographers, mathematicians and astronomers, peer review after peer
review of every single hypothesis vetted to the nth degree, and a
science which freely admits that it still must answer some of the more
intractable questions to provide a complete picture - as every true
science does, every time - because you don't like the messenger - is
just ugly, unscientific politics. *To do it because of greedy,
narcissistic motives is reprehensible and immoral.

Science has given us EVERY good thing we have beyond basic food, water
and land. *We love our PCs and radios and TVs and transportation and
modern medicine and thank science for it, and rightfully so. *However,
science is not always the bearer of benign or conveniently profitable
news. *Sometimes it brings us bad news, sometimes news that even
challenges the existing power structure. *Galileo and Darwin
challenged the church (and some willful people, to this day, still
disagree with both of these guys) - but their basic science is sound,
as is all true science, and has eventually won the day. *Like the
science of Galileo and Darwin, the science of human-induced climate
change challenges the existing power structrure - nowadays,
concentrated wealth like the Koch Brothers and big oil/coal - and
consequently their propaganda machines are working in overtime to
preserve their power. *As a result, Al Gore is bad and = climate
change science, and no-nothing reporters at Faux and Drudge are the
experts after spending zero years in actual research.

History repeats itself, and we have fallen into the same old trap of
ignorance and rebellion against inconvenience at the behest of the
powerful. *The difference, this time, is that the fate of many forms
of life on the planet, as well as the security and well-being of
billions of people, hang in the balance.

Ignore Al Gore if you don't like him. *He's just a politician. *But
the science was, and is, conducted as it should be, and like all true
science that takes time and effort, is gradually yielding the correct
answer. *We ridicule and ignore it at our own peril.

Bruce Jensen
--------------------

And thus we get at the crux of the Church of Global Warming. Class warfare.
And don't forget your PCs, radios, TVs, transportation and modern medicine
would not exist without evil oil.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Irrelevant.

bpnjensen August 11th 11 08:06 PM

(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
 
On Aug 11, 11:08*am, "MNMikew" wrote:
"D. Peter Maus" wrote in ...



On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, *wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:46 am, *wrote:
- On Aug 10, 3:13 am, *wrote:
* .
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners
Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC
Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376
-posted-by- ka6uup
-and-reply-by- Bruce
Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41?
* .
- - One Must Begin To Ask...
- -
- - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores
- - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ?
- -
- - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming !
- -
- - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF
- - *.
- - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4
- - *.
- - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898
- - *.
- - *.


- You're an uneducated idiot.


BpnJ,


You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee
:o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th...


You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of
'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}}


Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another
Inconvenient Truth
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85
* .
LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA :
IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.]
-wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61
* .
* .


Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely
irrelevant. *The settled science part are your words, not mine, and
completely innaccurate.


* Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. *He said it at
the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose.


* He's said it numerous places.


And he's wrong. Just like any other idiot who says it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


...and your credentials are...? I thought so.

bpnjensen August 11th 11 08:08 PM

Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear WinnersAgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
 
On Aug 11, 11:03*am, "MNMikew" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

...
On Aug 10, 10:59 am, "MNMikew" wrote:





"D. Peter Maus" wrote in
...


On 8/10/11 12:32 , MNMikew wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote:


Every Republican is a liar. It's a congenital defect from massive
inbreeding.


You're better than that, Bruce.


Not really.


Actually, he's generally more reasoned than this outburst. He and I may
disagree, but I rarely see this kind of bitterness.


Most AGW alarmists are pretty bitter.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Again, MnMike is a person who doesn't know what the hell he's talking
about, making believe he does.

------------------
Thanks for proving my point.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bitter maybe, but no less correct. You literally don't what the hell
you're talking about, wallow in joyful self-imposed ignorance, and
have not a single credential to your name. All you know is what the
oil propaganda machine tells you. Educate yourself, or STFU.

bpnjensen August 11th 11 08:10 PM

Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear WinnersAgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
 
On Aug 11, 10:26*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 8/11/11 10:27 , bpnjensen wrote:

On Aug 10, 9:04 am, "D. Peter *wrote:
On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote:


Every Republican is a liar. *It's a congenital defect from massive
inbreeding.


* * You're better than that, Bruce.


Sorry - I was just responding to Steve's silliness ;-)


* *Mike Myers says that silliness is a State of Grace.

* *One of the reasons so many people are so angry and tense is that
they've lost their silly.


That, and their meager retirements, their small fortunes, their tiny
security, their college tuitions, their livelihoods. Yeah, just try
smiling again! That'll fix everything!

MnMikew August 11th 11 08:23 PM

(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To His Head !
 

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
...
On Aug 11, 11:08 am, "MNMikew" wrote:
"D. Peter Maus" wrote in
...



On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote:
- On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote:
.
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners
Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC
Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376
-posted-by- ka6uup
-and-reply-by- Bruce
Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41?
.
- - One Must Begin To Ask...
- -
- - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores
- - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ?
- -
- - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming !
- -
- - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF
- - .
- - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4
- - .
- - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898
- - .
- - .


- You're an uneducated idiot.


BpnJ,


You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee
:o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th...


You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of
'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}}


Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another
Inconvenient Truth
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85
.
LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA :
IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.]
-wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61
.
.


Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely
irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and
completely innaccurate.


Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said it at
the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose.


He's said it numerous places.


And he's wrong. Just like any other idiot who says it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


...and your credentials are...? I thought so.
-------------------
You're right. I'm not a disciple of Al Gore. You on the other hand...



bpnjensen August 11th 11 08:43 PM

(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To HisHead !
 
On Aug 11, 12:23*pm, "MNMikew" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

...
On Aug 11, 11:08 am, "MNMikew" wrote:





"D. Peter Maus" wrote in
...


On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote:
- On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote:
.
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners
Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC
Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376
-posted-by- ka6uup
-and-reply-by- Bruce
Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41?
.
- - One Must Begin To Ask...
- -
- - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores
- - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ?
- -
- - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming !
- -
- - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF
- - .
- - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4
- - .
- - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898
- - .
- - .


- You're an uneducated idiot.


BpnJ,


You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee
:o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th...


You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of
'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}}


Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another
Inconvenient Truth
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85
.
LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA :
IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.]
-wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61
.
.


Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely
irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and
completely innaccurate.


Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said it at
the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose.


He's said it numerous places.


And he's wrong. Just like any other idiot who says it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


..and your credentials are...? *I thought so.
-------------------
You're right. I'm not a disciple of Al Gore. You on the other hand...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You made my point perfectly. Nothing between the ears. You also
cannot read or understand the written word.

Get literate. Get educated. Then, and only then, will we have a
common basis for discussion. Until then, cya.

RHF August 11th 11 09:20 PM

Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear WinnersAgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
 
On Aug 11, 12:10*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:26*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:









On 8/11/11 10:27 , bpnjensen wrote:


On Aug 10, 9:04 am, "D. Peter *wrote:
On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote:


Every Republican is a liar. *It's a congenital defect from massive
inbreeding.


* * You're better than that, Bruce.


Sorry - I was just responding to Steve's silliness ;-)


* *Mike Myers says that silliness is a State of Grace.


* *One of the reasons so many people are so angry and tense is that
they've lost their silly.


- That, and their meager retirements,
- their small fortunes, their tiny
- security, their college tuitions,
- their livelihoods. *Yeah, just try
- smiling again! *That'll fix everything!

All Under the Obama* Regime !

* Obama=Bush & Bush=Obama

RHF August 11th 11 09:22 PM

Scientific Smack down: Against Global Warming
 
On Aug 11, 8:28*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:16*am, dave wrote:

Every Republican is a liar. *It's a congenital defect from massive
inbreeding.


It's not really lying if you believe what you say is true. Republicans
live in a bubble of disinformation and voluntary ignorance. Not the same
as lying.


- "Voluntary" ignorance is the key.
-*If it's voluntary, it's a lie.

BpnJ -tyvm- for "Volunteering"
this 'key' information ;;-}} ~ RHF

MnMikew August 11th 11 09:26 PM

Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners AgainstGlobal Warming Believers in Heated NYC Debate
 

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
...
On Aug 11, 11:03 am, "MNMikew" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

...
On Aug 10, 10:59 am, "MNMikew" wrote:





"D. Peter Maus" wrote in
...


On 8/10/11 12:32 , MNMikew wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 8/10/11 10:45 , bpnjensen wrote:


Every Republican is a liar. It's a congenital defect from massive
inbreeding.


You're better than that, Bruce.


Not really.


Actually, he's generally more reasoned than this outburst. He and I
may
disagree, but I rarely see this kind of bitterness.


Most AGW alarmists are pretty bitter.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Again, MnMike is a person who doesn't know what the hell he's talking
about, making believe he does.

------------------
Thanks for proving my point.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bitter maybe, but no less correct. You literally don't what the hell
you're talking about, wallow in joyful self-imposed ignorance, and
have not a single credential to your name. All you know is what the
oil propaganda machine tells you. Educate yourself, or STFU.

------------------------------
LOL!! Spoken like the liberal shill you are.



MnMikew August 11th 11 09:30 PM

(OT) : Al Gore's Rage-&-Rant : Global Warming Done Gone To His Head !
 

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
...
On Aug 11, 12:23 pm, "MNMikew" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

...
On Aug 11, 11:08 am, "MNMikew" wrote:





"D. Peter Maus" wrote in
...


On 8/11/11 10:43 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 10, 2:07 pm, wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:46 am, wrote:
- On Aug 10, 3:13 am, wrote:
.
Scientific Smackdown: Skeptics Voted The Clear Winners
Against Global Warming Believers in Heated NYC
Debatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2acee8277e91b376
-posted-by- ka6uup
-and-reply-by- Bruce
Jensenhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bedf496a5fb56e41?
.
- - One Must Begin To Ask...
- -
- - How Many Shares BpnJ Owns in Al Gores
- - Carbon Credits Corps ? ? ?
- -
- - Al Gore The Great Profit of Global Warming !
- -
- - payola big or small is still payola ~ RHF
- - .
- - Another Absurd Climate Gate Moment !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95fe5b213fcf20c4
- - .
- - Climate-Gate : The 21st Century's Biggest Scientific SCAM !
- -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03f8f34788943898
- - .
- - .


- You're an uneducated idiot.


BpnJ,


You are getting good at the Al Gore 'Rage-&-Rant' Thingee
:o)http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/pol...re-rant-why-th...


You have elevated yourself from simple rank-and-file of
'Global Warming' to the rank of 'Full of Hot Air' ! ::-}}


Oops ! Climate-Gate Did Happen Yet Another
Inconvenient Truth
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f3800097470e85
.
LET'S ALL CHANT THE CLIMATE-GATEŠ MANTRA :
IT'S SETTLED SCIENCE : THERE CAN BE NO DEBATE [.]
-wrt- Another Absurd Climate GateŠ Moment
!http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4493147109bb61
.
.


Your Al Gore reference is smoke and mirrors, and completely
irrelevant. The settled science part are your words, not mine, and
completely innaccurate.


Actually, 'The science is settled' is a quote of Algore. He said it at
the Oscars, he's said it on Charlie Rose.


He's said it numerous places.


And he's wrong. Just like any other idiot who says it.- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


..and your credentials are...? I thought so.
-------------------
You're right. I'm not a disciple of Al Gore. You on the other hand...-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You made my point perfectly. Nothing between the ears. You also
cannot read or understand the written word.

Get literate. Get educated. Then, and only then, will we have a
common basis for discussion. Until then, cya.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Lemmie guess, you thought we were headed to another ice age in the 70's too.




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