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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
Protesters set up camp in Manhattan's Financial District Saturday for
a demonstration stemming from the social networking site "Occupy Wall Street" that aims to last for months. NY1’s Nicole Ward filed the following report. http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...street-protest "Lisa Fithian said she's not part of any official group and that the “occupation” of Wall Street is the work of many people coming together with the same message." LIBERAL FASCIST Bull Scheisse! In 2005 and Dec 2008 Lisa Fithian, Root Activist Network of Trainers(2005), Alliance for Community Trainers Inc(2008) was voted onto the Steering Committee for United for Peace and Justice: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=1874 http://www.unitedforpeace.org/articl...t=type&type=16 United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ) http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6166 http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Uni...ce_and_Justice UFPJ was officially created on October 25, 2002 in the Washington, DC offices of People For the American Way. http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6400 Its initial membership consisted of approximately 70 organizations. Prior to UFPJ's founding, the anti-war movement had earned a reputation as a hodgepodge of radical elements. All the large-scale peace demonstrations to that point had been held under the auspices of International ANSWER, an organization aligned with the Marxist- Leninist Workers World Party; http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6147 Global Exchange, headed by the longtime pro-Castro communist Medea Benjamin; http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6151 and Not In Our Name, http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6163 a project organized by Ramsey Clark http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in....asp?indid=781 and fellow leaders of the Revolutionary Communist Party. http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6197 United For Peace and Justice was created explicitly to put a milder face on the anti-war movement, although from its inception UFPJ shared with the aforementioned groups a passionate hatred for the United States and for capitalism. The Co-Chair and principal leader of UFPJ is Leslie Cagan, http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in....asp?indid=629 an original founder of the Committees of Correspondence (a remnant organization created by the American Communist Party upon going out of business) and a strong supporter of Fidel Castro since the 1960s; Cagan proudly aligns her politics with those of Communist Cuba. National Organizations Affiliated With United for Peace and Justice http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/UFPJGroups071607.htm GEe, where is Cindy Sheehan and all the Communist anti-war protestors now? http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2031 |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote:
Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass. Since you bring up Hilton, just what do you think she does with her wealth? Do you think it's stashed in a mattress somewhere? No. The dumb blonde is at least intelligent enough to INVEST it. Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. Force people to donate? Thanks for making the previous posters point immaculately. Some things will never change. And you will always be "special" Dave. BTW, it's after 7:00 am here. You better hurry if you want to catch that short bus. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
First Post wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass. Since you bring up Hilton, just what do you think she does with her wealth? Do you think it's stashed in a mattress somewhere? No. The dumb blonde is at least intelligent enough to INVEST it. Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. Force people to donate? Thanks for making the previous posters point immaculately. Some things will never change. And you will always be "special" Dave. BTW, it's after 7:00 am here. You better hurry if you want to catch that short bus. Short Bus Dave. I love it! |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:20:07 -0500, First Post wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass. It's about 1 in 3 billionaires, Sparky. I just thought of her because someone mentioned narcissism. The world financial system is based entirely on "good faith". "Good faith" is a dying concept in the hyper-real world we are waking up in. Investment as practised today is classic parasitism. No value is created except by improving a thing by applying work. Eliminate the middleman. Western Civilization is a Green Zone of cards, and a haboob is a gathering. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. Banks are starting to charge people to store their money. Negative interest. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sep 19, 6:17*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: "First Post" *wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. Why do so many see the need to swear. It's as if they don't know how to argue a point. Before getting into this I'd like for people to understand the distinction between physical and financial capital. When money is put into a bank and the bank lends it out what they are lending is financial capital. Financial capital is really nothing more than an aggregate of promises. Consider the confederate currency. It had value then it didn't. The value of money is its value in trade. Singer found it chould find people who could afford to pay cash for their sewing machines so they sold them on time. That is they sold them for more money than they cost to build and "lent" money they didn't have but represented value people were willing to "borrow". The created money out of thin air. A couple of decades back the movie "Trading Places" came out. In it two brothers make a bet about the lives of two people. The back drop is the commodity market. As it turns out the brothers were getting an early peak at the orange production report. Getting one's hands on this report would give them an advantage since they could trade on private information before it was anounced to the public. The tables were turned and they lost their ****s. A few decades ago the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver market. The price shot up from $5 per oz to $50 per oz. Bigger fish restored the market but a lot of minnows were hurt in the process. There is value in use and value in trade. One of these values is internal where the other rests upon markets of aggregate supply and demand and marginal rates. There is a options trading model known as Black-Scholes. One doesn't need to know it inside and out to understand the concepts. The idea is there is a premium for risk taking and that risk can be quantisized. Traders can use this to help them decide if an option is over or under valued. Everyone is susceptible to risk. The poor can lolerate less risk because they can't weather it as well. Retirees who live close to or beyond their ROI can't tolerate much risk. For all the talk about how much better investors the rich are much of it just boils down to being risk tolerant. The cash economy is just above barter. The risk referenced above is one of performance and promise to perform. When people can't tolerate even small risks they trade as close to goods as they can and for the goods they need for current consumption and production. The right wing has no idea of the system of privilege they are promoting. They don't care one whit about rewarding hard work. Instead they want to increase the return to those who find themselves in a position of power that allows them to tolerate risk and make sure hard work is rewarded by a constant pressure of demand approaching the risk free return so the masses have no chance to set aside anything for their future. Like a casino, a few winners are good for the business but most have to lose. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sep 19, 9:21*am, Gary Forbis wrote:
On Sep 19, 6:17*am, "Brenda Ann" A Neo-Kommie Liberal Fascist such as yourself has never invested a single dime in their entire life! All you & short bus Dave [PhDc] know how to do is swipe your EBT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk Sell your soul to the Devil and let the government take care of you. But not on my dime, dimwit. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sep 19, 6:31*pm, "Chas.Chan" wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:21*am, Gary Forbis wrote: On Sep 19, 6:17*am, "Brenda Ann" A Neo-Kommie Liberal Fascist such as yourself has never invested a single dime in their entire life! Denial. It's not just a river. When you have something worth reading come back and try again. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/19/2011 4:48 AM, dave wrote:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. WOW!!! I have heard of people having such revelations/epiphanies on drugs ... but then they come down and realize it is all BS ... but, thanks for sharing that, anyway. Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/19/2011 6:17 AM, Brenda Ann wrote:
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. Yes, the rich elite "investments" are into farming, ag, toilet paper, real assets, etc. (and, of course, the homes and wealth they have stolen and are stealing) ... all the necessary support items and properties necessary to keep the sheeple supporting them ... and then, of course, there are the al-gore-swine who wish to sell you worthless fears and tax you for them ... sad, so very, very sad ... no wonder some are so toked-out, like special dave, into bong-hitting their minds into the either ... Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
"Gary Forbis" wrote in message ... On Sep 19, 6:31 pm, "Chas.Chan" wrote: On Sep 19, 9:21 am, Gary Forbis wrote: On Sep 19, 6:17 am, "Brenda Ann" A Neo-Kommie Liberal Fascist such as yourself has never invested a single dime in their entire life! Denial. It's not just a river. When you have something worth reading come back and try again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or, alternately, if he has any idea what he's talking about. 1) I'm not a neo-anything. I'm a centrist and believe that much of what both of the major parties in the US do is insanity, based upon the classic definition: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results" 2) See above 3) He needs to learn the meaning of the word "fascist", and then take a good inventory of who is actually running the country. 4) I happen to have not one, but TWO IRA accounts, and have dabbled in the stock market (unfortunately, it was MCI) and tried to get in on Ford stock when it was down to a buck a share, but didn't have the liquidity to take advantage of that. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/19/2011 6:39 AM, dave wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. Don't be taking hits off the bong once you have started a reply ... you are too liable to do like you have here ... hit the send key too quit and look like a moron ... Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/19/2011 6:40 AM, dave wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. Banks are starting to charge people to store their money. Negative interest. Wait until you see what they are going to charge you for a safe deposit box to keep your dope in! Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/19/2011 7:21 AM, Gary Forbis wrote:
... Before getting into this I'd like for people to understand the distinction between physical and financial capital. When money is put into a bank and the bank lends it out what they are lending is financial capital. Financial capital is really nothing more than an aggregate of promises. Consider the confederate currency. It had value then it didn't. The value of money is its value in trade. ... What the **** are you talking about? I don't see anyone swearing! And, you already screwed up. Your "financial capital" they are loaning out is just debt ... they are loaning 10 bucks for everyone they have to back it up ... they are just loading the marks asses up with debt so they will work like slaves to make the other 9 bucks and pay off the debt they have created, and you so kindly agreed to pay off for them. Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sep 19, 7:57*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: "Gary Forbis" *wrote in message ... On Sep 19, 6:31 pm, "Chas.Chan" wrote: On Sep 19, 9:21 am, Gary Forbis wrote: On Sep 19, 6:17 am, "Brenda Ann" A Neo-Kommie Liberal Fascist such as yourself has never invested a single dime in their entire life! Denial. *It's not just a river. When you have something worth reading come back and try again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*----- Or, alternately, if he has any idea what he's talking about. 1) I'm not a neo-anything. I'm a centrist and believe that much of what both of the major parties in the US do is insanity, based upon the classic definition: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results" 2) See above 3) He needs to learn the meaning of the word "fascist", and then take a good inventory of who is actually running the country. 4) I happen to have not one, but TWO IRA accounts, and have dabbled in the stock market (unfortunately, it was MCI) and tried to get in on Ford stock when it was down to a buck a share, but didn't have the liquidity to take advantage of that. I thought long and hard about apple when it dropped to 3.5. Part of me said OK, the most I could be out with 1,000 shares is $3,509.99 but at the time that was a big deal. Starbucks was selling at $1 a share when I first looked at it but one had to buy 20,000 shares minimum. Risk management is a big deal when one doesn't have the money to risk. At least I didn't get into Egghead. One remembers the big wins one missed but not the big losses one avided. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:57:56 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:
4) I happen to have not one, but TWO IRA accounts, and have dabbled in the stock market (unfortunately, it was MCI) and tried to get in on Ford stock when it was down to a buck a share, but didn't have the liquidity to take advantage of that. I'm supposed to get some MCI-Worldcom class action settlement money one of these years. My last big kill was Australian gold mine ADRs. I made over 1,000% in about 4 years. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:00:59 -0700, John Smith wrote:
Wait until you see what they are going to charge you for a safe deposit box to keep your dope in! ??? I'm sure if I had an "in" it would be very dope, but I don't and it isn't. Besides, I'd probably let it come and go as it pleased, being so dope. |
Real money v artificial money
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:04:50 -0700, John Smith wrote:
On 9/19/2011 7:21 AM, Gary Forbis wrote: ... Before getting into this I'd like for people to understand the distinction between physical and financial capital. When money is put into a bank and the bank lends it out what they are lending is financial capital. Financial capital is really nothing more than an aggregate of promises. Consider the confederate currency. It had value then it didn't. The value of money is its value in trade. ... What the **** are you talking about? I don't see anyone swearing! And, you already screwed up. Your "financial capital" they are loaning out is just debt ... they are loaning 10 bucks for everyone they have to back it up ... they are just loading the marks asses up with debt so they will work like slaves to make the other 9 bucks and pay off the debt they have created, and you so kindly agreed to pay off for them. Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
dave wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:00:59 -0700, John Smith wrote: Wait until you see what they are going to charge you for a safe deposit box to keep your dope in! ??? I'm sure if I had an "in" it would be very dope, but I don't and it isn't. Besides, I'd probably let it come and go as it pleased, being so dope. Take your meds, Dave, and calm down. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: "First Post" wrote in message .. . Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. It is still an investment. Where exsactly do you think banks get the funds to make loans to anyone? Do you believe they just print their own to loan out. That money comes from savings, CDs interest paid to the banks on loans etc. Funny, I point out that Hilton has her money invested regardless of how she got it and you want to change the cubject by whining about whether or not she has any lucrative investments. Chances are she has her money in stocks and bonds and such thus her money is being used by many more than just herself. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sep 19, 4:48*am, dave wrote:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. *All part of not growing up... *but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing * [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. NAH - M4 Mania Dave High Taxes Simply Tax You More [.] -and- Force the Rich/Wealthy To More Your Money/Wealth Off-Shore Where It Wouldn't Be Tax As Much. -reality- Maybe you should have listened to CRI {Shortwave Radio} and heard a few of their Programs focused on Updating the Chinese Tax System to Tax Uniformly and Equally and Maintain a Nation that is Economically Active. Just Say "NO" To Higher Obama Taxes ! Just Say "NO" To More Obama Taxes ! Just Say "NO" To Obama Tax-Slavery© ! |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/20/2011 4:51 AM, dave wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:00:59 -0700, John Smith wrote: Wait until you see what they are going to charge you for a safe deposit box to keep your dope in! ??? I'm sure if I had an "in" it would be very dope, but I don't and it isn't. Besides, I'd probably let it come and go as it pleased, being so dope. Uhh, yeah, good example ... that's why they call it d-o-p-e, yanno'? Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/20/2011 4:49 AM, dave wrote:
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:57:56 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: 4) I happen to have not one, but TWO IRA accounts, and have dabbled in the stock market (unfortunately, it was MCI) and tried to get in on Ford stock when it was down to a buck a share, but didn't have the liquidity to take advantage of that. I'm supposed to get some MCI-Worldcom class action settlement money one of these years. My last big kill was Australian gold mine ADRs. I made over 1,000% in about 4 years. "Australian Gold?" "MCI World Class High?" Good dope, huh? Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:38:21 -0700, RHF wrote:
Maybe you should have listened to CRI {Shortwave Radio} and heard a few of their Programs focused on Updating the Chinese Tax System to Tax Uniformly and Equally and Maintain a Nation that is Economically Active. Just Say "NO" To Higher Obama Taxes ! Just Say "NO" To More Obama Taxes ! Just Say "NO" To Obama Tax-Slavery© ! . China is a basket case. You don't pay any taxes, shut up. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/20/2011 5:22 AM, First Post wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. It is still an investment. Where exsactly do you think banks get the funds to make loans to anyone? Do you believe they just print their own to loan out. That money comes from savings, CDs interest paid to the banks on loans etc. Funny, I point out that Hilton has her money invested regardless of how she got it and you want to change the cubject by whining about whether or not she has any lucrative investments. Chances are she has her money in stocks and bonds and such thus her money is being used by many more than just herself. You have it back-ass-wards ... Today it is inflation, they start up the presses and magically transform x amount of dollars into 2x amount of dollars. Your wages go to 2x amount of dollars, your bank account becomes 2x amount of dollars ... But, dummy, your money buys 1/2x amount of dollars ... this is the "good deal" al core and the criminals in public servant offices keep telling everyone about ... Look closely, you will notice only morons are believing it ... Regards, JS |
Freudian Projection?
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:44:52 -0700, John Smith wrote:
On 9/20/2011 4:49 AM, dave wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:57:56 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: 4) I happen to have not one, but TWO IRA accounts, and have dabbled in the stock market (unfortunately, it was MCI) and tried to get in on Ford stock when it was down to a buck a share, but didn't have the liquidity to take advantage of that. I'm supposed to get some MCI-Worldcom class action settlement money one of these years. My last big kill was Australian gold mine ADRs. I made over 1,000% in about 4 years. "Australian Gold?" "MCI World Class High?" Good dope, huh? Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/20/2011 5:38 AM, RHF wrote:
On Sep 19, 4:48 am, wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. NAH - M4 Mania Dave High Taxes Simply Tax You More [.] -and- Force the Rich/Wealthy To More Your Money/Wealth Off-Shore Where It Wouldn't Be Tax As Much. -reality- Maybe you should have listened to CRI {Shortwave Radio} and heard a few of their Programs focused on Updating the Chinese Tax System to Tax Uniformly and Equally and Maintain a Nation that is Economically Active. Just Say "NO" To Higher Obama Taxes ! Just Say "NO" To More Obama Taxes ! Just Say "NO" To Obama Tax-Slavery© ! . . Simply said, and "explained" would be to just mentally model what is happening ...: Ask yourself, "Why aren't they paying me a decent return to use my money?" Once you realize the answer is, "Because they can print all they want and don't have to use yours!" You suddenly realize the stoopidity of investing in such foolishness ... Well, I guess some don't ... Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/20/2011 4:46 AM, dave wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:47:49 -0700, John Smith wrote: On 9/18/2011 3:06 PM, wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: Protesters set up camp in Manhattan's Financial District Saturday for a demonstration stemming from the social networking site "Occupy Wall Street" that aims to last for months. NY1’s Nicole Ward filed the following report. Not surprising When all the wealth in France was owned by the aristocracy---revolution. When the King of England began to not listen to "the people"---They were forced to sign the Magna Carta---and later Parliament was recognized as the legitmate power. Now we have 400 familes in the US controlling over 50% of ALL wealth---and more and more being transferred to them Even morons (like yourself) should be afraid. ROFLOL ... Morons, such as him/her/it be afraid? Surely, you jest! The idiot cops chipped in with the NWO banksters and criminal government servants and broke it up ... truth is, those criminal banksters and wall-street-types should be locked up ... better yet, a prison island set up for them ... The best way to get even with people who love money is to crash the damn economy. That is happening as we speak. The funny part is, they did it to themselves. 3 months from now some brokers will envy the people in tent cities. Say I invest in a large quantity of kilos of smoke, what is the shelf life? :-) Actually, I can see your point, dope is a good investment, like toilet paper, really!!!! Some arse will always want it ... :-) Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:49:58 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 9/20/2011 5:22 AM, First Post wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. It is still an investment. Where exsactly do you think banks get the funds to make loans to anyone? Do you believe they just print their own to loan out. That money comes from savings, CDs interest paid to the banks on loans etc. Funny, I point out that Hilton has her money invested regardless of how she got it and you want to change the cubject by whining about whether or not she has any lucrative investments. Chances are she has her money in stocks and bonds and such thus her money is being used by many more than just herself. You have it back-ass-wards ... Today it is inflation, they start up the presses and magically transform x amount of dollars into 2x amount of dollars. Your wages go to 2x amount of dollars, your bank account becomes 2x amount of dollars ... But, dummy, your money buys 1/2x amount of dollars ... this is the "good deal" al core and the criminals in public servant offices keep telling everyone about ... Look closely, you will notice only morons are believing it ... Regards, JS I'm talking about basic principles of finance, not crazy assed conspiracies. The argument was put forth that people like Hilton with inherited money don't deserve it and do not benefit anyone by having it. That is false and that is what my post addresses. |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On 9/20/2011 2:20 PM, First Post wrote:
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:49:58 -0700, John wrote: On 9/20/2011 5:22 AM, First Post wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. It is still an investment. Where exsactly do you think banks get the funds to make loans to anyone? Do you believe they just print their own to loan out. That money comes from savings, CDs interest paid to the banks on loans etc. Funny, I point out that Hilton has her money invested regardless of how she got it and you want to change the cubject by whining about whether or not she has any lucrative investments. Chances are she has her money in stocks and bonds and such thus her money is being used by many more than just herself. You have it back-ass-wards ... Today it is inflation, they start up the presses and magically transform x amount of dollars into 2x amount of dollars. Your wages go to 2x amount of dollars, your bank account becomes 2x amount of dollars ... But, dummy, your money buys 1/2x amount of dollars ... this is the "good deal" al core and the criminals in public servant offices keep telling everyone about ... Look closely, you will notice only morons are believing it ... Regards, JS I'm talking about basic principles of finance, not crazy assed conspiracies. The argument was put forth that people like Hilton with inherited money don't deserve it and do not benefit anyone by having it. That is false and that is what my post addresses. The only thing which would help there is, smite dumbass hilton with the power of God, turn her to ash and take her money and feed and take care of the poor and homeless ... However, no such actions, like that, from God, in millennia, a shame too! Regards, JS |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:59:39 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 9/20/2011 2:20 PM, First Post wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:49:58 -0700, John wrote: On 9/20/2011 5:22 AM, First Post wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. It is still an investment. Where exsactly do you think banks get the funds to make loans to anyone? Do you believe they just print their own to loan out. That money comes from savings, CDs interest paid to the banks on loans etc. Funny, I point out that Hilton has her money invested regardless of how she got it and you want to change the cubject by whining about whether or not she has any lucrative investments. Chances are she has her money in stocks and bonds and such thus her money is being used by many more than just herself. You have it back-ass-wards ... Today it is inflation, they start up the presses and magically transform x amount of dollars into 2x amount of dollars. Your wages go to 2x amount of dollars, your bank account becomes 2x amount of dollars ... But, dummy, your money buys 1/2x amount of dollars ... this is the "good deal" al core and the criminals in public servant offices keep telling everyone about ... Look closely, you will notice only morons are believing it ... Regards, JS I'm talking about basic principles of finance, not crazy assed conspiracies. The argument was put forth that people like Hilton with inherited money don't deserve it and do not benefit anyone by having it. That is false and that is what my post addresses. The only thing which would help there is, smite dumbass hilton with the power of God, turn her to ash and take her money and feed and take care of the poor and homeless ... However, no such actions, like that, from God, in millennia, a shame too! Regards, JS Why hate someone simply for being born into wealth? When did it become a sin for parents to leave anything to their children? If someone has an uncle or a grandmother that ends up leaving them a few million or even billion dollars in their will, just how does that suddenly make them deserving of such vitriol? Time and time again envious individuals have posted here how they hate anyone who inherited the family farm or their parents fortune citing that "they didn't do anything to earn it" and claiming some imaginary moral high ground by whining that they know better what those people should do with their own property. People that win lotteries don't do much other than purchasing a $2 ticket so should they also be "smitten by God and turned into ashes" simply because they just got lucky? Take every penny from every millionaire and billionaire in the country and you'll have a grand total of just over $800 Billion. Take it and give it to the homeless and the poor and within a short period of time the money will be gone and the poor will still be poor and the homeless will still be homeless. In fact there will be even more poor and homeless as there will be quite a few people who will find themselves unemployed because their employers no longer have any means of providing them a job or a paycheck. And then where will you look to find someone to take from? |
Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
First Post wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:59:39 -0700, John Smith wrote: On 9/20/2011 2:20 PM, First Post wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:49:58 -0700, John wrote: On 9/20/2011 5:22 AM, First Post wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. It is still an investment. Where exsactly do you think banks get the funds to make loans to anyone? Do you believe they just print their own to loan out. That money comes from savings, CDs interest paid to the banks on loans etc. Funny, I point out that Hilton has her money invested regardless of how she got it and you want to change the cubject by whining about whether or not she has any lucrative investments. Chances are she has her money in stocks and bonds and such thus her money is being used by many more than just herself. You have it back-ass-wards ... Today it is inflation, they start up the presses and magically transform x amount of dollars into 2x amount of dollars. Your wages go to 2x amount of dollars, your bank account becomes 2x amount of dollars ... But, dummy, your money buys 1/2x amount of dollars ... this is the "good deal" al core and the criminals in public servant offices keep telling everyone about ... Look closely, you will notice only morons are believing it ... Regards, JS I'm talking about basic principles of finance, not crazy assed conspiracies. The argument was put forth that people like Hilton with inherited money don't deserve it and do not benefit anyone by having it. That is false and that is what my post addresses. The only thing which would help there is, smite dumbass hilton with the power of God, turn her to ash and take her money and feed and take care of the poor and homeless ... However, no such actions, like that, from God, in millennia, a shame too! Regards, JS Why hate someone simply for being born into wealth? When did it become a sin for parents to leave anything to their children? If someone has an uncle or a grandmother that ends up leaving them a few million or even billion dollars in their will, just how does that suddenly make them deserving of such vitriol? Time and time again envious individuals have posted here how they hate anyone who inherited the family farm or their parents fortune citing that "they didn't do anything to earn it" and claiming some imaginary moral high ground by whining that they know better what those people should do with their own property. People that win lotteries don't do much other than purchasing a $2 ticket so should they also be "smitten by God and turned into ashes" simply because they just got lucky? Take every penny from every millionaire and billionaire in the country and you'll have a grand total of just over $800 Billion. Take it and give it to the homeless and the poor and within a short period of time the money will be gone and the poor will still be poor and the homeless will still be homeless. In fact there will be even more poor and homeless as there will be quite a few people who will find themselves unemployed because their employers no longer have any means of providing them a job or a paycheck. And then where will you look to find someone to take from? Amen brother, amen. |
TWA: Ronald Reagan killed the Land of Opportunity
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:43:51 -0400, dxAce wrote:
Amen brother, amen. And turned us into Third World America |
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