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Protesters set up camp in Manhattan's Financial District Saturday for
a demonstration stemming from the social networking site "Occupy Wall
Street" that aims to last for months. NY1’s Nicole Ward filed the
following report.

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...street-protest

"Lisa Fithian said she's not part of any official group and that the
“occupation” of Wall Street is the work of many people coming together
with the same message."

LIBERAL FASCIST Bull Scheisse!

In 2005 and Dec 2008 Lisa Fithian, Root Activist Network of
Trainers(2005), Alliance for Community Trainers Inc(2008) was voted
onto the Steering Committee for United for Peace and Justice:

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=1874
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/articl...t=type&type=16

United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6166
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Uni...ce_and_Justice

UFPJ was officially created on October 25, 2002 in the Washington, DC
offices of People For the American Way.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6400

Its initial membership consisted of approximately 70 organizations.
Prior to UFPJ's founding, the anti-war movement had earned a
reputation as a hodgepodge of radical elements. All the large-scale
peace demonstrations to that point had been held under the auspices of
International ANSWER, an organization aligned with the Marxist-
Leninist Workers World Party;
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6147

Global Exchange, headed by the longtime pro-Castro communist Medea
Benjamin;
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6151

and Not In Our Name,
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6163

a project organized by Ramsey Clark
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in....asp?indid=781

and fellow leaders of the Revolutionary Communist Party.
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6197

United For Peace and Justice was created explicitly to put a milder
face on the anti-war movement, although from its inception UFPJ shared
with the aforementioned groups a passionate hatred for the United
States and for capitalism.

The Co-Chair and principal leader of UFPJ is Leslie Cagan,
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in....asp?indid=629
an original founder of the Committees of Correspondence (a remnant
organization created by the American Communist Party upon going out of
business) and a strong supporter of Fidel Castro since the 1960s;
Cagan proudly aligns her politics with those of Communist Cuba.

National Organizations Affiliated With United for Peace and Justice
http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/UFPJGroups071607.htm

GEe, where is Cindy Sheehan and all the Communist anti-war protestors
now?
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2031
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote:



Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare
themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing
up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think
they're entitled to what others have actually earned.


Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing
[above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the
United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how
corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to
invest and donate.
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote:



Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare
themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing
up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think
they're entitled to what others have actually earned.


Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing
[above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the
United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how
corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to
invest and donate.


Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass.

Since you bring up Hilton, just what do you think she does with her
wealth? Do you think it's stashed in a mattress somewhere? No. The
dumb blonde is at least intelligent enough to INVEST it.
Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested.
Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of
you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is.

Force people to donate? Thanks for making the previous posters point
immaculately.

Some things will never change. And you will always be "special" Dave.
BTW, it's after 7:00 am here. You better hurry if you want to catch
that short bus.





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First Post wrote:

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote:



Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare
themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing
up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think
they're entitled to what others have actually earned.


Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing
[above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the
United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how
corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to
invest and donate.


Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass.

Since you bring up Hilton, just what do you think she does with her
wealth? Do you think it's stashed in a mattress somewhere? No. The
dumb blonde is at least intelligent enough to INVEST it.
Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested.
Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of
you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is.

Force people to donate? Thanks for making the previous posters point
immaculately.

Some things will never change. And you will always be "special" Dave.
BTW, it's after 7:00 am here. You better hurry if you want to catch
that short bus.


Short Bus Dave. I love it!




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"First Post" wrote in message
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Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested.
Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of
you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is.


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You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that
includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with
rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an
IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full
percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a
funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point.

Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the
lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give
to the bank.

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:20:07 -0500, First Post wrote:

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote:

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote:



Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare
themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing
up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think
they're entitled to what others have actually earned.


Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing
[above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the
United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how
corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to
invest and donate.


Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass.


It's about 1 in 3 billionaires, Sparky. I just thought of her because
someone mentioned narcissism.

The world financial system is based entirely on "good faith". "Good
faith" is a dying concept in the hyper-real world we are waking up in.
Investment as practised today is classic parasitism. No value is created
except by improving a thing by applying work. Eliminate the middleman.

Western Civilization is a Green Zone of cards, and a haboob is a
gathering.

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"First Post" wrote in message
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Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems
one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you
financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is.



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You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and
that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even
keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've
seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't
even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a
joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point.

Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at
the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what
YOU give to the bank.


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On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"First Post" wrote in message
...

Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems
one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you
financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is.



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You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and
that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even
keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've
seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't
even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a
joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point.

Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at
the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what
YOU give to the bank.


Banks are starting to charge people to store their money. Negative
interest.
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On Sep 19, 6:17*am, "Brenda Ann"
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"First Post" *wrote in message

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Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested.
Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of
you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is.


Why do so many see the need to swear. It's as if they don't
know how to argue a point.

Before getting into this I'd like for people to understand the
distinction between physical and financial capital.

When money is put into a bank and the bank lends it out
what they are lending is financial capital. Financial capital
is really nothing more than an aggregate of promises. Consider
the confederate currency. It had value then it didn't. The value
of money is its value in trade.

Singer found it chould find people who could afford to pay cash
for their sewing machines so they sold them on time. That is
they sold them for more money than they cost to build and
"lent" money they didn't have but represented value people
were willing to "borrow". The created money out of thin air.

A couple of decades back the movie "Trading Places" came out.
In it two brothers make a bet about the lives of two people.
The back drop is the commodity market. As it turns out the
brothers were getting an early peak at the orange production
report. Getting one's hands on this report would give them
an advantage since they could trade on private information
before it was anounced to the public. The tables were turned
and they lost their ****s.

A few decades ago the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver
market. The price shot up from $5 per oz to $50 per oz. Bigger
fish restored the market but a lot of minnows were hurt in the
process. There is value in use and value in trade. One of these
values is internal where the other rests upon markets of aggregate
supply and demand and marginal rates.

There is a options trading model known as Black-Scholes.
One doesn't need to know it inside and out to understand
the concepts. The idea is there is a premium for risk taking
and that risk can be quantisized. Traders can use this to
help them decide if an option is over or under valued.

Everyone is susceptible to risk. The poor can lolerate less
risk because they can't weather it as well. Retirees who
live close to or beyond their ROI can't tolerate much risk.
For all the talk about how much better investors the rich are
much of it just boils down to being risk tolerant.

The cash economy is just above barter. The risk referenced
above is one of performance and promise to perform. When
people can't tolerate even small risks they trade as close to
goods as they can and for the goods they need for current
consumption and production.

The right wing has no idea of the system of privilege they
are promoting. They don't care one whit about rewarding
hard work. Instead they want to increase the return to those
who find themselves in a position of power that allows them
to tolerate risk and make sure hard work is rewarded by a
constant pressure of demand approaching the risk free return
so the masses have no chance to set aside anything for their
future.

Like a casino, a few winners are good for the business but
most have to lose.
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