On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:29:35 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:37 -0800, MagneticEnergy wrote:

What good are the numbers when they are distorted by government spending
programs? Claims that $4500 car rebates cost taxpayers $24K? That's
absurd. Giving people $8K to buy a house, and that costs taxpayers
$46K? With that kind of "social spending" you could give away cars that
cost less than $10K and liveable RV trailers that don't require
financing?

Those numbers are absurd, and I suspect someone pulled them out of their
ass.

Actually, it was a study by Edmunds, who seem to know plenty about
automobile sales...

They want to "bulldoze neighborhoods", erect solar and wind electric
generation plants in hurricane and other storm prone areas (it's either
hurricanes, tornadoes, or flooding?) Coal and gas are the most
dependable forms of cheap energy, and they want us to go broke trying to
pay for it next year?

The neighborhoods in question are derelict and abandoned, a burden to the
cities they are in. Why not replace hundreds of square miles of rotting
and empty tenements with parks, green industry areas, and public
transit? As for coal and gas, they are killing us. For all the wet
diaper contingent of the GOP whines about the cost, the cost of global
warming itself is going to be far greater.

But that is why Republicans and Democrats don't want Conservatives in
public office, they want to give their deep pocket campaign finance
donors big concessions, even if it wrecks the economy?

Pretty much, yeah. "Conservative" is either a loon or an industry
whore. Neither do us much good.


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Steve wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:29:35 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:37 -0800, MagneticEnergy wrote:

What good are the numbers when they are distorted by government spending
programs? Claims that $4500 car rebates cost taxpayers $24K? That's
absurd. Giving people $8K to buy a house, and that costs taxpayers
$46K? With that kind of "social spending" you could give away cars that
cost less than $10K and liveable RV trailers that don't require
financing?
Those numbers are absurd, and I suspect someone pulled them out of their
ass.

Actually, it was a study by Edmunds, who seem to know plenty about
automobile sales...

What happens when a car dealership closes?

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:27:26 -0800, dave wrote:

Steve wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:29:35 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:37 -0800, MagneticEnergy wrote:

What good are the numbers when they are distorted by government spending
programs? Claims that $4500 car rebates cost taxpayers $24K? That's
absurd. Giving people $8K to buy a house, and that costs taxpayers
$46K? With that kind of "social spending" you could give away cars that
cost less than $10K and liveable RV trailers that don't require
financing?
Those numbers are absurd, and I suspect someone pulled them out of their
ass.

Actually, it was a study by Edmunds, who seem to know plenty about
automobile sales...

What happens when a car dealership closes?

Lemme guess..... a lot of car salespeople go on unemployment?

--

Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.

On 11/2/09 04:21 , Steve wrote:


Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.


Actually, they're not whining about what anyone owes you, they're
whining about what everyone owes THEM.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:27:26 -0800, dave wrote:

Steve wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:29:35 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09"
wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:37 -0800, MagneticEnergy wrote:

What good are the numbers when they are distorted by government
spending programs? Claims that $4500 car rebates cost taxpayers
$24K? That's absurd. Giving people $8K to buy a house, and that
costs taxpayers $46K? With that kind of "social spending" you could
give away cars that cost less than $10K and liveable RV trailers that
don't require financing?
Those numbers are absurd, and I suspect someone pulled them out of
their ass.

Actually, it was a study by Edmunds, who seem to know plenty about
automobile sales...

What happens when a car dealership closes?

The CSM had a followup on that Edmunds story that included this
interesting tidbit:
Mike Jackson, CEO of AutoNation, the country’s largest new-car dealer
chain, agrees with the White House’s tough response, calling the Edmunds’
study “uncharacteristically shoddy,� according to USA Today.

“Simply put, they’ve misrepresented the facts, and the White House is
completely justified in calling them out on it,� Mr. Jackson said.

Additionally, there are direct links, both to Edmunds and the CEA. It
can be found he
http://features.csmonitor.com/politi...om-fires-back-
at-white-house-cash-for-clunkers-slam/

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 11/2/09 04:21 , Steve wrote:


Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.


Actually, they're not whining about what anyone owes you, they're
whining about what everyone owes THEM.

Shut up and pay your taxes, you plebe! Don't worry your head about the affairs
of your betters!

On Nov 2, 2:21*am, Steve wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:29:35 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09"

wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:37 -0800, MagneticEnergy wrote:

What good are the numbers when they are distorted by government spending
programs? *Claims that $4500 car rebates cost taxpayers $24K? *That's
absurd. *Giving people $8K to buy a house, and that costs taxpayers
$46K? *With that kind of "social spending" you could give away cars that
cost less than $10K and liveable RV trailers that don't require
financing?

Those numbers are absurd, and I suspect someone pulled them out of their
ass.

- Actually, it was a study by Edmunds,
- who seem to know plenty about automobile sales...

Add 'Edmunds' to the Obama-Enemies-List©

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They want to "bulldoze neighborhoods", erect solar and wind electric
generation plants in hurricane and other storm prone areas (it's either
hurricanes, tornadoes, or flooding?) *Coal and gas are the most
dependable forms of cheap energy, and they want us to go broke trying to
pay for it next year?

The neighborhoods in question are derelict and abandoned, a burden to the
cities they are in. *Why not replace hundreds of square miles of rotting
and empty tenements with parks, green industry areas, and public
transit? *As for coal and gas, they are killing us. *For all the wet
diaper contingent of the GOP whines about the cost, the cost of global
warming itself is going to be far greater.

But that is why Republicans and Democrats don't want Conservatives in
public office, they want to give their deep pocket campaign finance
donors big concessions, even if it wrecks the economy?

Pretty much, yeah. *"Conservative" is either a loon or an industry
whore. *Neither do us much good.

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--

Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.

Spending? I am fixin to do some more personal spending rat now.Soon as I
plop my battery in my new auld 1983 Dodge van, I am headin to teh Lowe's
store (after first stoppin off at teh Goodwill store
www.shopgoodwill.com ) for a hunnert feets of wire for 240 bolts and a
240 bolts plug (if you are Polish, you say bolts instead of volts.Polish
people are Good people) and some more of them thar Ortho mouse traps.
Seeeeee,,,,, I am helpin teh economy eberydey.
cuhulin

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:52:12 -0800, RHF wrote:

On Nov 2, 2:21Â*am, Steve wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:29:35 -0600, "5265 Dead, 398 since 1/20/09"

wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:37 -0800, MagneticEnergy wrote:

What good are the numbers when they are distorted by government
spending programs? Â*Claims that $4500 car rebates cost taxpayers
$24K? Â*That's absurd. Â*Giving people $8K to buy a house, and that
costs taxpayers $46K? Â*With that kind of "social spending" you could
give away cars that cost less than $10K and liveable RV trailers
that don't require financing?

Those numbers are absurd, and I suspect someone pulled them out of
their ass.

- Actually, it was a study by Edmunds, - who seem to know plenty about
automobile sales...

He may know auto sales, but I came across one post today that showed he
didn't understand statistics. The three billion dollar program generated
some twenty billion in economic activity.

Add 'Edmunds' to the Obama-Enemies-List©

Oh, please. Don't be a crackpot.

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They want to "bulldoze neighborhoods", erect solar and wind electric
generation plants in hurricane and other storm prone areas (it's
either hurricanes, tornadoes, or flooding?) Â*Coal and gas are the
most dependable forms of cheap energy, and they want us to go broke
trying to pay for it next year?

The neighborhoods in question are derelict and abandoned, a burden to
the cities they are in. Â*Why not replace hundreds of square miles of
rotting and empty tenements with parks, green industry areas, and
public transit? Â*As for coal and gas, they are killing us. Â*For all
the wet diaper contingent of the GOP whines about the cost, the cost
of global warming itself is going to be far greater.

But that is why Republicans and Democrats don't want Conservatives
in public office, they want to give their deep pocket campaign
finance donors big concessions, even if it wrecks the economy?

Pretty much, yeah. Â*"Conservative" is either a loon or an industry
whore. Â*Neither do us much good.

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that the use of abortion to limit Negros, Latinos, and other races
from "spreading the wealth around" as a "matter of privacy" (which
the author does not condone).

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moments, and to validate and even demonstrate artistic expressions
that are not shared by others, as demonstrated by many valuable
scientific observations that were scoffed at in the past, yet proven
to be quite valid decades later, upon which the humor used in all
electronic communications by the author are based, in the principals
and traditions of free speech and pursuit of happiness, and may not
be a representation of others, including God.

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bandwidth verification or potential advertisement opportunities or
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use" regarding conversations and print under US Copy Right Law.

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the proposed regulations from the FTC violate the first and fifth
amendments of the United States Constitution, by infringing through
economic affliction the burden without compensation all financial
details concerning the communications of both free enterprise and
opinion, and other civil rights such as "punishment must be fair"
and not at the "discretion" of public officials, or that advertisers
are assumed to be guilty of deception when United States law
provides that you are innocent before being proven guilty, and are
in fact demonstrations that there are current members of Congress
that neither understand the spirit of the law our founding fathers
made for the United States of America, or understand how they work
in the opinion of the author, as of October 10th, 2009, especially
in light of anticipated, and hopefully defeated, legislative taxes
relating to energy use and the burden of publishers and advertisers
to comply with the law and manage the environment, and in light that
there are various consumer protection agencies, including the Better
Business Bureau, which has free consumer information.

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author that blogging is another definition for a potentially
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author will retroactively apply this version, 1.4 to all forms of
previous communications, when and wherever possible, as time allows,
in order to properly convey the intention of the author and to
demonstrate an enthusiasm to comply with the law, and not
enthusiastically pursue getting high on cocaine as often as possible
as Barack Hussein Obama has admitted in his book (paraphrase,
synopsis), according to (mmm, mmm, mmm (sonic emphasis)) Rush Hudson
Limbaugh, (mmm mmm mmm (sonic emphasis)).

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Chicken Chaser!

--

Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody owes you anything.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:33:52 -0800, dave wrote:

Steve wrote:


Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
owes you anything.

Contrary to what the fascistas are bellowing, God is a mythical being.

shrug

--

Contrary to what liberals are whining, nobody
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