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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:50:31 -0700, John Smith
wrote: I tend to see true socialism as reflecting the way of the American Indians tribes model(s.) I don't see any economic system as being "true". And the more people involved, the more of a mongrel their society becomes. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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"Howard Brazee" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" wrote: NOPE Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first world country? (Some study which compared health of populations). Have at it http://www.circinfo.net/ |
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"John Smith" wrote in message ... On 10/27/2011 4:35 PM, Howard Brazee wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500, wrote: NOPE Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first world country? (Some study which compared health of populations). For some strange reason, I am tempted to say I have never seen anyone improve on natures/Gods' design with a knife ... I should doubt that there is a single exception to this ... Appendectomy If you don't use that knife, you die. And a lot of the Biblical constraints do have some basis in better sanitation and health Circumcision included. |
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On 10/27/2011 6:29 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message ... On 10/27/2011 4:35 PM, Howard Brazee wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:49:43 -0500, wrote: NOPE Piercing and tats provide NO health benefits' like circumcision What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first world country? (Some study which compared health of populations). For some strange reason, I am tempted to say I have never seen anyone improve on natures/Gods' design with a knife ... I should doubt that there is a single exception to this ... Appendectomy If you don't use that knife, you die. And a lot of the Biblical constraints do have some basis in better sanitation and health Circumcision included. Yes, but the appendix does have a purpose, surgery is not an improvement, but in cases of infection, a life saving fix ... but then, if you had gangrene in your penis, a surgeon might be a very desirable thing ... one can always hope for positive results from reconstructive surgery, later ... silly-grin Regards, JS |
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On 10/27/2011 6:08 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:50:31 -0700, John wrote: I tend to see true socialism as reflecting the way of the American Indians tribes model(s.) I don't see any economic system as being "true". And the more people involved, the more of a mongrel their society becomes. Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Regards, JS |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:27:40 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote: What are the measured health benefits of circumcision in any first world country? (Some study which compared health of populations). Have at it http://www.circinfo.net/ I see a list of benefits, but so far haven't found a statistical analysis of them. I have to leave shortly and will follow links when I get back. It's not hard to find lists of benefits for almost any medical procedure. And there are tests being done by physicians that are statistically more dangerous than the disease they test for. Whether or not this applies to circumcision should be tested with actual studies that include the measured dangers & benefits of circumcision. The important word above is "measured". -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:06 -0700, John Smith
wrote: Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Sometimes going after profits can actually hurt profits. Here's an interesting link (It's Steve Jobs related - but I'd like to see the book): http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2011/10/stev..._innovato.html -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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Am 28.10.2011 03:03, schrieb John Smith:
On 10/27/2011 5:44 PM, Thomas Heger wrote: Am 27.10.2011 22:49, schrieb SaPeIsMa: "Thomas Heger" wrote in message ... Am 26.10.2011 15:37, schrieb SaPeIsMa: .. The Catholic-Protestant wars were primarily power, politics and geo-political control Religion was just the justification. R E A L L Y ??? .. Yes really Haven't you studied history ? No, engineering. But I forgot the 'irony smiley' (don't know, how that looks like) .. Another question is, what you do with your kids, since these cannot defend themselves. Early childhood traumata of any sort are generally unhealthy. That is a question that has been asked, Too bad that there is very little evidence to suppor the notion that it causes lifelong trauma.. The subject drifts a little too far away from the subject of this thread. (And somehow it is not my business, just my feeling tells me, that I wouldn't do that.) .. The Brits supported the communists and are themself responsible for a few massacres. But I even think, the Brits supported the Nazis, too. Hitler could possibly be a kind of 'British spy'. The entire story of the so called third Reich is more than dubious. Most likely its all fake and crime. But I cannot tell anything for sure. I usually follow ideas and inspirations, then research, read, look at old pictures or films. Usually I try to find inconsistencies. One of these was a 'storm belt' over the wrong shoulder - on a person that opens the door of a car for Hitler. This means, the film is reverted and left and right exchanged. Possibly to hide the fact, that the car was designed to drive on the left side. LOL You are a conspiracy nit Thats why I write on alt.conspiracy ;-) I like this thread, because the collection of other boards that participate is amazing. Usually I wouldn't write about golf, shortwave or guns. TH LOL! I like to include conspiracy because everything we humans do is a conspiracy, and usually we attempt to involve more than just ourselves in in. Whether we are conspiring to change another point of view, or conspiring to have others examine our logic and we theirs, etc. And, this, all, in contrast to the criminal conspiracies of criminal pubic servants in public servant offices, whose duty is to carry out the will of the majority while making sure those duties do not injure a single person, group, or groups -- i.e., a minority. And, fulfill their duties in their oaths to uphold the Constitution and guarantee the government of the people, by the people and for the people. From the time me and the wife get up, until we lay our heads down at night, we are engaged in an open conspiracy to improve and enrich, not only our own situation, but our family, friends and communities ... our only enemies are those working against our endeavors -- unfortunately, there are many, and their numbers seem to grow these days ... I think, the Americans were on the better side, most of the time. A lot of people around the globe lived in conditions, that were/are far worth. But now something is going wrong in your country, what really worries me. My 'working hypothesis' is like this: There are sort of 'bad guys', that cooperate silently around the globe. Their objective is something like a forth Reich - on global level. The mayor stumbling block now are actually the Americans, since they have grown too strong. So the 'bad guys' try to dumb down, rip off (and so forth) the US citizens. This is not only bad for the US citizens, but also for the rest of the world, since than the 'bad guys' would win. So I think about possible 'cures'. For example: think about Halloween next week. But what do you actually celebrate? Kids go around and 'demand' sweets. In my opinion, that is almost a 'kids-crime', since it is sort of 'robbery' as childs play. Than all these masks and reference to witchcraft, voodoo and death, than cannot possibly be helpful. (The sweets are bad for the health anyhow, since they consist only of glucose, citric acid, fat, artificial flavours and colours.) Other example is education: I've read comments about how they teach mathematics. That was totally strange. Teaching is an asymmetric relation: someone has the knowledge and someone learns. The directions of information goes from teacher to pupil. So the teacher has to do just that: teach. If the pupil decide, what they want to learn, they learn nothing. How about health? Americans pay a lot, but do not get healthier. Why that? Maybe its the food (mainly), don't know. But better health is not only nicer to have, but also saves a lot of money. Very helpful is cleanness at home and good food. Most fast-food or convenience-food is very unhealthy (and expensive). So I suggest, that people learn to cook again, possibly in school, since this would not only enhance health, but also frees energy (and money), what could be helpful in times of trouble. TH |
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"Howard Brazee" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:06 -0700, John Smith wrote: Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Sometimes going after profits can actually hurt profits. Which can be seen also in the history of Domino's Pizza and other companies that cheapen their product in pursuit of profit only to end up losing significant portions of their customer base due to an inferior product and thus losing profits in the long run. Here's an interesting link (It's Steve Jobs related - but I'd like to see the book): http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2011/10/stev..._innovato.html -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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: "Howard Brazee" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:06 -0700, John Smith wrote: Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Sometimes going after profits can actually hurt profits. Which can be seen also in the history of Domino's Pizza and other companies that cheapen their product in pursuit of profit only to end up losing significant portions of their customer base due to an inferior product and thus losing profits in the long run. At least Dominos has figured that out and changed the substance on their pizzas. I have tried one and it wasn't bad. I normally go to a small pizza maker not far away who makes most excellent pizza and, no matter what other pizzas (chain or single owner) I have tried I always go back to him. -- Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman) Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill on the Titanic..... |
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They are not real pizzas though.The orginal pizzas in Italy were very
different. cuhulin |
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"RD Sandman" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in : "Howard Brazee" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:06 -0700, John Smith wrote: Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Sometimes going after profits can actually hurt profits. Which can be seen also in the history of Domino's Pizza and other companies that cheapen their product in pursuit of profit only to end up losing significant portions of their customer base due to an inferior product and thus losing profits in the long run. At least Dominos has figured that out and changed the substance on their pizzas. I have tried one and it wasn't bad. I normally go to a small pizza maker not far away who makes most excellent pizza and, no matter what other pizzas (chain or single owner) I have tried I always go back to him. Yep, I have one like that in Manassas. Great pizza, a bit on the oily side, but flavor that can't be beat and a decent price. |
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On Oct 28, 3:42*pm, RD Sandman wrote:
"Scout" wrote : "Howard Brazee" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:06 -0700, John Smith wrote: Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Sometimes going after profits can actually hurt profits. Which can be seen also in the history of *Domino's Pizza and other companies that cheapen their product in pursuit of profit only to end up losing significant portions of their customer base due to an inferior product and thus losing profits in the long run. At least Dominos has figured that out and changed the substance on their pizzas. *I have tried one and it wasn't bad. - I normally go to a small pizza maker not - far away who makes most excellent pizza - and, no matter what other pizzas - (chain or single owner) I have tried I - always go back to him. One of the 'local' {non-chain} Pizza Joints in the Sonora [CA] Area has an "All You Can Eat ! Pizza Night on Wednesdays for ~$6 : Most of the Pizzas are 3-Toppers and there are about 12 Varieties lasts about 2 Hours. plenty, good and tasty ~ RHF -a-diet-buster-night- |
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: "RD Sandman" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in : "Howard Brazee" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:50:06 -0700, John Smith wrote: Yes, that is what predatory economics is, isn't it, "not seeing" anything which gets in the way of profits ... the many pay the costs of supporting the "special few." Sometimes going after profits can actually hurt profits. Which can be seen also in the history of Domino's Pizza and other companies that cheapen their product in pursuit of profit only to end up losing significant portions of their customer base due to an inferior product and thus losing profits in the long run. At least Dominos has figured that out and changed the substance on their pizzas. I have tried one and it wasn't bad. I normally go to a small pizza maker not far away who makes most excellent pizza and, no matter what other pizzas (chain or single owner) I have tried I always go back to him. Yep, I have one like that in Manassas. Great pizza, a bit on the oily side, but flavor that can't be beat and a decent price. To coin an expression.....they make a sausage and pepperoni with extra cheese that is to die for. Hmmmm, come to think of it, I believe most all their pizzas come with extra cheese. ;) -- Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman) Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill on the Titanic..... |
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Howard Brazee wrote in
: On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:28:18 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: We have a pizza place here that does that same thing. Only problem is the pizzas are crap. The place is called Cici's. There are excellent pizza joints for all tastes around here. Cici's seems to be designed for OK pizzas for grade school kids. I won't eat them again. We even got passes for several free ones due to an incident that happened in there but we gave them away rather than use them. A couple of local restaurants have super-expensive super-hot ovens which make a different kind of good pizza. But others have excellent pizzas with cheaper ovens. When I was young I liked pizzas with everything on them, now I am more minimalist. Not like my grandchildren though, who prefer either cheese or pepperoni. My first experience with Pizza was at a Shakeys' in Mexico City in around 1962. I worked in pizza joints in College back when there were only a few styles of pizza joints. The original Shakeys were quite good. -- Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman) Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill on the Titanic..... |
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I don't like pizza pies.Pizza,Italy is OK though.Fine Cars, Fine
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:49:38 -0500, RD Sandman
wrote: My first experience with Pizza was at a Shakeys' in Mexico City in around 1962. I worked in pizza joints in College back when there were only a few styles of pizza joints. The original Shakeys were quite good. That may be. Trouble is, my tastes have changed over the decades and certainly the pizza industry is. I wouldn't be surprised if going back in a time machine quite a few of the restaurants I remember fondly would be found lacking. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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Howard Brazee wrote in
: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:49:38 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: My first experience with Pizza was at a Shakeys' in Mexico City in around 1962. I worked in pizza joints in College back when there were only a few styles of pizza joints. The original Shakeys were quite good. That may be. Trouble is, my tastes have changed over the decades and certainly the pizza industry is. I wouldn't be surprised if going back in a time machine quite a few of the restaurants I remember fondly would be found lacking. LOL!! That's probably very true. ;) -- Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman) Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill on the Titanic..... |
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On Oct 30, 5:19*pm, (J R) wrote:
I don't like pizza pies.Pizza,Italy is OK though.Fine Cars, Fine Wimmins. cuhulin Don't forget - it has a very mild climate,except for extreme north and some southern regions. |
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Am 31.10.2011 17:17, schrieb RD Sandman:
Howard wrote in : On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:49:38 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: My first experience with Pizza was at a Shakeys' in Mexico City in around 1962. I worked in pizza joints in College back when there were only a few styles of pizza joints. The original Shakeys were quite good. That may be. Trouble is, my tastes have changed over the decades and certainly the pizza industry is. I wouldn't be surprised if going back in a time machine quite a few of the restaurants I remember fondly would be found lacking. LOL!! That's probably very true. ;) As I have added various nonsense to this thread, I could add a few pizza recepies: actually a part of my diet consists of pizza. But I make that myself, because that is cheaper, better and more convenient than walking to a pizzeria or getting them delivered. Pizza: dough is made in a bread making automat. Just bread without baking. Depends on taste and demands, but usually I use some fresh grind hole grains. The dough is cut into 7 pieces and sealed in plastic bags and frozen in (depending on the size of the automat and your pizza trays). Sauce is concentrated tomatoes and peeled tomatoes, both from cans, olive oil, garlic, salt, chili. Mixed with a blender and stored in a jar in the fridge. Cheese is pre-cut and stored in a container in the fridge, too. I use a special mixture of salt and spices, that I produce in a blender and my grain mill (sea-salt, chili, rosmarin, basilicum.. ) . To make a pizza I open a bag of dough, after melting it for a minute in the microwave, spread the dough on baking paper on a pizza baking plate. Two spoonful of sauce and a half teaspoon of spices. Than whatever you like (tuna, onions, broccoli .......) Some cheese... Bake for twenty minutes at 240°C That's it Takes five minutes and prize is about one Euro (or dollar) a pizza. Greetings Thomas |
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@mid.individual.net: Am 31.10.2011 17:17, schrieb RD Sandman: Howard wrote in : On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:49:38 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: My first experience with Pizza was at a Shakeys' in Mexico City in around 1962. I worked in pizza joints in College back when there were only a few styles of pizza joints. The original Shakeys were quite good. That may be. Trouble is, my tastes have changed over the decades and certainly the pizza industry is. I wouldn't be surprised if going back in a time machine quite a few of the restaurants I remember fondly would be found lacking. LOL!! That's probably very true. ;) As I have added various nonsense to this thread, I could add a few pizza recepies: actually a part of my diet consists of pizza. But I make that myself, because that is cheaper, better and more convenient than walking to a pizzeria or getting them delivered. Pizza: dough is made in a bread making automat. Just bread without baking. Depends on taste and demands, but usually I use some fresh grind hole grains. The dough is cut into 7 pieces and sealed in plastic bags and frozen in (depending on the size of the automat and your pizza trays). Sauce is concentrated tomatoes and peeled tomatoes, both from cans, olive oil, garlic, salt, chili. Mixed with a blender and stored in a jar in the fridge. Cheese is pre-cut and stored in a container in the fridge, too. I use a special mixture of salt and spices, that I produce in a blender and my grain mill (sea-salt, chili, rosmarin, basilicum.. ) . To make a pizza I open a bag of dough, after melting it for a minute in the microwave, spread the dough on baking paper on a pizza baking plate. Two spoonful of sauce and a half teaspoon of spices. Than whatever you like (tuna, onions, broccoli .......) Some cheese... Bake for twenty minutes at 240°C That's it Takes five minutes and prize is about one Euro (or dollar) a pizza. Greetings Thomas If I spend time fixing something, it is usually baby back ribs. -- Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman) Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill on the Titanic..... |
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The Original Pizza Pies (in Italy) were very different from what most people in America know about Pizza Pies.Samantha Brown would tell you so too, and probally Burt Wolf also. cuhulin |
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Am 04.11.2011 19:31, schrieb RD Sandman:
Thomas wrote in news:9hhfapFv14U1 @mid.individual.net: make a pizza I open a bag of dough, after melting it for a minute in the microwave, spread the dough on baking paper on a pizza baking plate. Two spoonful of sauce and a half teaspoon of spices. Than whatever you like (tuna, onions, broccoli .......) Some cheese... Bake for twenty minutes at 240°C That's it Takes five minutes and prize is about one Euro (or dollar) a pizza. Plus baking time - of course.. Greetings Thomas If I spend time fixing something, it is usually baby back ribs. Well, I spend a lot of time on thinking about cooking. Since I live on a very low budget, what I get for my money should be the best possible. A good way to enhance quality of life is to enhance cooking. The parameters of food quality are things like taste, 'healthiness', availability, durability and time and effort to prepare. To enhance quality of food means, I want kind of fast-food, but better, cheaper, healthier and tastier. This is what I try to develop. So I prepare all ingredients myself, even if that is time-consuming. But this gives me total control about the ingredients and where to by them for the best price. This gives very good results and the food is better and much cheaper. The stuff you get in usual fast-food shops isn't particularly healthy and you don't know, where that particular e.g. cow came from. (Here's a video of McDonnald goes shopping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAsrO...eature=related) Greetings TH |
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