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Am 20.10.2011 06:56, schrieb Scout:


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Am 20.10.2011 05:08, schrieb Scout:


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Conspiracy is a crime in anglo-saxon law, where two or more people
conspire, to harm somebody by illegal means.


I acknowledge your ignorance of the English language as well, since a
conspiracy does NOT have to be a crime.

This does not require 'hidden means' or secrecy. It just requires more
than one person. 'Conspiracy' is among these extremely strange laws,
you have in America.


Then I take it you're not American, and that you think that a conspiracy
can only occur under American law.


No, I don't say so and I don't mean it.

What you call 'conspiracy' is in German 'Verschwörung'.
This term comes from 'Schwur', what is 'oath' in English.

The theory (actually the correct term would be 'hypothesis') is, that
there are groups - connected around the globe - through a system of oath
and hidden connections.

Actually it is a known fact, that such systems do exist. These are
(predominantly) masons, jesuits and mobsters. Also the SS of the Nazis
used such means. But many other groups have oath, even if not hidden. Only
the SS had the habit to kill those, that would not follow the oath, while
e.g. the boy scouts don't.

Now Kennedy addresses in his speech, that these conspiracies would exist
as wast international system (shortly before he got killed).

So the idea itself has some merits. Only it is very hard to prove, since
the system is hidden and whistle-blowers get killed.

Actually I wouldn't think, that the jesuits would kill somebody, that
wants to leave, what leaves Nazis and mobsters as possible perpetrators.


You forget the Muslims
They too have a precept in the Koran to kill those who would leave the
"faith"


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Actually it is a known fact, that such systems do exist. These are
(predominantly) masons, jesuits and mobsters. Also the SS of the Nazis
used such means. But many other groups have oath, even if not hidden.
Only the SS had the habit to kill those, that would not follow the
oath, while e.g. the boy scouts don't.

Now Kennedy addresses in his speech, that these conspiracies would
exist as wast international system (shortly before he got killed).

So the idea itself has some merits. Only it is very hard to prove,
since the system is hidden and whistle-blowers get killed.

Actually I wouldn't think, that the jesuits would kill somebody, that
wants to leave, what leaves Nazis and mobsters as possible perpetrators.


You forget the Muslims
They too have a precept in the Koran to kill those who would leave the
"faith"

Where have got that from?

Do Muslims have an oath?

I think, 'faith' is something you have, hence could - maybe - give it up
or loose it, but cannot leave.

TH
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