On 11/25/2011 8:13 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
On 11/25/2011 12:13 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
On Thanksgiving Day, Americans gather with their family and friends to
celebrate the blessings that Providence has bestowed on their beloved
country.

A deep appreciation of these blessings involves understanding that
they were earned. It is to understand the awesome truth of how "God
helps those who help themselves" applies to the Mayflower Pilgrims and
their First Thanksgiving at America's birth.

This is an appreciation and understanding of which those on the Left
are incapable - for it would mean celebrating the capitalist freedom
that made that original Thanksgiving possible. This no liberal, no
Democrat, no leftie can do. Thus they must distort history instead.

The distortion starts in Kindergarten, with the childish make-believe
of your kid's school play portraying the noble Squanto teaching the
helpless Pilgrims how to feed themselves. So let's drop the curtain
on the distortion and watch the real thing. Here it is.

http://www.ToThePointNews.com/content/view/4762/2/

Written by Dr. Jack Wheelerwww.ToThePointNews.com

Dr. Wheeler needs to know that God help those who can't help
themselves which is what he did on the cross. Man had no hope, but
God intervened and took the penalty for all sin. Now, all man has to
do is believe and he is forgiven of all sin.

The first Thanksgiving was all about giving thanks to God for his many
blessings he had given the Pilgrims as they crossed the sea and
afterwards when they had established homes in the Cape Cod area. The
first Thanksgiving was a prayfull three day celebration.

What Tracey won't talk about is that the Mayflower Compact prescribed
a socialist style of property distribution and socialist government.

Yep, our once great nation started out as a socialist colony. Both
the early Virginians and the Plymouth settlers subscribed to
socialism.

And it worked.

Separation of church and state got started with the pilgrims.

Bret Cahill

Yet We have settled for keeping the Federal government out of religion.....

The word *separate* is NOT used in the constitution to describe the
relationship between government and religion.

Just the more powerful term "establishment."

Bret Cahill

Establishment is one sided and directed towards government while
separate has the connotation that it also directed at the religions
themselves.

There is Nothing that stops religions from having an opinion or
supporting government.

Any religion of any faith doesn't need or want gummint.

But it is clear that GOVERNMENT can't establish a NATIONAL religion.

Or have anything to do with any religion.



NO, that power is NOT ever given to the Federal government, it's NOT
written in the constitution/Amendments.

If you see that wording please show it to me. For someone that likes to
quote Marx and the Federalist papers, you know damn little of what is
actually written in the constitution.


It simply says " *CONGRESS* shall make no law" establishing a National
religion. Nor can *CONGRESS* write any law banning people from
practicing their Religion.


*Amendment I*
["Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof"]


How did *CONGRESS* pass that law that bans religion in a school?
Congress is clearly told NOT to pass laws that limit/ban religious
expression. I see Nothing that limits the States power or ability to
ban prayer in schools, but *CONGRESS* did it unconstitutionally instead.

If the people in a State choose to allow religious prayer in their
schools then they have that constitutional power to allow it or to deny
it State Wide.


That 1st amendment is aimed at Federal Government *CONGRESS* and we know
Schools are run by the States. If they were Federally created and run
schools then you might have a point except that too is unconstitutional.
Congress has no power to set up schools or to write appropriation laws
for money for schools. Obviously the CONGRESS is overstepping their
authority and passing FEDERAL LAWS telling schools what they can *NOT*
do and that is clearly "PROHIBITING religion". Which is exact what the
constitution told congress that they may NOT do.



Bret Cahill




The Constitution is a document which gives the government few and
tightly controlled powers, indeed, specifically only those power
necessary to run a safe and sane society while granting all members
maximum freedoms and their creator given rights.

If the government is NOT given a specific power in the Constitution, it
simply doesn't have an agreement with the people that they can exercise
such power(s.)

The Constitution is a document created around the proven evils, and
truth, that government will always seek to take too many powers for
itself and mistreat the people it should be serving.

In short, the Constitution is pro-citizens and anti-government ... and
is only willing to tolerate the exercise of the absolute minimum of
government powers ...

Regards,
JS
The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776!