On 12/21/2012 4:58 PM, rickman wrote:
On 12/21/2012 7:06 AM, Lord Infomouse wrote:
On 12/20/2012 10:36 AM, Truth and honesty wrote:

Really what terms would Hitler have accepted to end the war?

I like how this guy asks me a pointed question and then disappears when
I answer. True grit and high-caliber tactics.

If I had ten divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be
over very quickly.


You talk a lot but don't say much...

Rick

And you don't say anything at all.

I said:

"Germany would have accepted anything other than unconditional
surrender, because unconditional surrender is the worst thing known to
man. It means putting oneself at the mercy of thine enemies. Enemies
who tormented and tortured Germany after WWI. No goodwill expected."

You said:

"..."

Is this a new debate strategy that I have not encountered before? The
"silence as an opposition?" It seems kind of weak, but lets see how it
bears out. For one, I am in total lack of surprise when there is no
response to this message. Didn't you ever learn that surprise is the
key ingredient to meaningful discourse?

--
Who told you to think?
I don't give you enough
information to think.
You do what you're told, that's what you do.

On 12/21/2012 4:58 PM, rickman wrote:
On 12/21/2012 7:06 AM, Lord Infomouse wrote:
On 12/20/2012 10:36 AM, Truth and honesty wrote:

Really what terms would Hitler have accepted to end the war?

I like how this guy asks me a pointed question and then disappears when
I answer. True grit and high-caliber tactics.

If I had ten divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be
over very quickly.


You talk a lot but don't say much...

Rick

It's because you are a stupid idiot and are not familiar with my debate
style. For me, getting to the facts is more important than being right.
You humans get on top of a side or position and ride it all the way to
oblivion, never wavering and never changing, even when the facts
completely obliterate your argument. I, on the other hand, do not mind
playing Devil's Advocate. It is apparent in this discussion that by
suppressing viewpoints, such as any support at all for any Axis power,
you have laid yourself bare to anyone supporting them. You have no
antibodies to fight such an assault because you allow no one to speak of
it, and suppress it even though it is free speech, because it makes you
grumpy and unhappy that there might be an enemy position.

So, wave your hands, and condemn the Axis as everything that is totally
gruesomely evil and inhuman, and slowly but surely, in your inability to
consider grey areas, they creep up and suffocate you in your comfortable
little bed where you are happy like a clam and innocent in every way.

--
Who told you to think?
I don't give you enough
information to think.
You do what you're told, that's what you do.

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 01:59:48AM -0700, Lord Infomouse wrote:
On 12/21/2012 4:58 PM, rickman wrote:
On 12/21/2012 7:06 AM, Lord Infomouse wrote:
On 12/20/2012 10:36 AM, Truth and honesty wrote:

Really what terms would Hitler have accepted to end the war?

I like how this guy asks me a pointed question and then disappears when
I answer. True grit and high-caliber tactics.

If I had ten divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be
over very quickly.


You talk a lot but don't say much...

Rick

It's because you are a stupid idiot and are not familiar with my debate
style. For me, getting to the facts is more important than being right.
You humans get on top of a side or position and ride it all the way to
oblivion, never wavering and never changing, even when the facts
completely obliterate your argument. I, on the other hand, do not mind
playing Devil's Advocate. It is apparent in this discussion that by
suppressing viewpoints, such as any support at all for any Axis power,
you have laid yourself bare to anyone supporting them. You have no
antibodies to fight such an assault because you allow no one to speak of
it, and suppress it even though it is free speech, because it makes you
grumpy and unhappy that there might be an enemy position.

It is one thing to take the position of the Devil's Advocate, and
entirely something else to hold a postion based primarily on evil. I
believe you are occupying the latter territory. You speak of
antibodies as if they are translatable from human biology to thought
but they are not. This alone marks you as a force of irrationality
and non-thought.

So, wave your hands, and condemn the Axis as everything that is totally
gruesomely evil and inhuman, and slowly but surely, in your inability to
consider grey areas, they creep up and suffocate you in your comfortable
little bed where you are happy like a clam and innocent in every way.

Yeah, whatever. Your use of colorful language does not suffice to
disguise your lack of thought.


Regards,

Uncle Steve

--
It would appear, then, that the Western consciousness feels itself
urged to predicate a sort of finality inherent in its own appearance.
-- Oswald Spengler, "The Decline of the West", Vol I

On 12/22/2012 3:13 AM, Uncle Steve wrote:
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 01:59:48AM -0700, Lord Infomouse wrote:
On 12/21/2012 4:58 PM, rickman wrote:
On 12/21/2012 7:06 AM, Lord Infomouse wrote:
On 12/20/2012 10:36 AM, Truth and honesty wrote:

Really what terms would Hitler have accepted to end the war?

I like how this guy asks me a pointed question and then disappears when
I answer. True grit and high-caliber tactics.

If I had ten divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be
over very quickly.


You talk a lot but don't say much...

Rick

It's because you are a stupid idiot and are not familiar with my debate
style. For me, getting to the facts is more important than being right.
You humans get on top of a side or position and ride it all the way to
oblivion, never wavering and never changing, even when the facts
completely obliterate your argument. I, on the other hand, do not mind
playing Devil's Advocate. It is apparent in this discussion that by
suppressing viewpoints, such as any support at all for any Axis power,
you have laid yourself bare to anyone supporting them. You have no
antibodies to fight such an assault because you allow no one to speak of
it, and suppress it even though it is free speech, because it makes you
grumpy and unhappy that there might be an enemy position.

It is one thing to take the position of the Devil's Advocate, and
entirely something else to hold a postion based primarily on evil. I
believe you are occupying the latter territory. You speak of
antibodies as if they are translatable from human biology to thought
but they are not. This alone marks you as a force of irrationality
and non-thought.

I have German ancestry. I would like to think that this does not make
me an unholy beast fit only for hard labor and slaughter in my
uncleanliness. You call me evil, but are you not the one who is quite
often in hysteria, caught up in paranoid delusion? I have been
condemned for playing Devil's Advocate in the past and it has cost me at
least one friend. However, I prefer to speak the salient points of the
opposition so that they can be struck down, rather than to keep them
unspoken and bothering; known but never resolved. Who are you to say
that antibodies can not translate to human thought? I am more of a
biologist than you are if history serves an example. As far as I can
tell you are a gruff-whiskered survivalist, with a house full of hard
cram rations and rum tankards filled with water instead of alcohol. You
are ready for the apocalypse, because that is what you do, being ready
for the apocalypse. How much does such a profession earn you?

So, wave your hands, and condemn the Axis as everything that is totally
gruesomely evil and inhuman, and slowly but surely, in your inability to
consider grey areas, they creep up and suffocate you in your comfortable
little bed where you are happy like a clam and innocent in every way.

Yeah, whatever. Your use of colorful language does not suffice to
disguise your lack of thought.

Colorful language usually refers to the use of expletives. Are you
running a smear campaign against me? You are evil and reprehensible. I
bet you crawled up into your house along a tunnel straight out of hell.
How many fellow demons are you in collaboration with? Does your pact
of sinister evil have imps and hags in it? You are in cahoots with the
worst this world has to offer and you are all after me.

Regards,

Uncle Steve

--
It would appear, then, that the Western consciousness feels itself
urged to predicate a sort of finality inherent in its own appearance.
-- Oswald Spengler, "The Decline of the West", Vol I

--
Who told you to think?
I don't give you enough
information to think.
You do what you're told, that's what you do.

On 12/22/2012 3:59 AM, Lord Infomouse wrote:
You humans

Uh, *you* humans? You don't consider yourself human?


So, wave your hands, and condemn the Axis as everything that is totally
gruesomely evil and inhuman, and slowly but surely, in your inability to
consider grey areas, they creep up and suffocate you in your comfortable
little bed where you are happy like a clam and innocent in every way.

"full of sound an fury, signifying nothing..."

When you say something that deserves a reply, I will reply.

Rick

On 12/23/2012 7:05 PM, rickman wrote:
On 12/22/2012 3:59 AM, Lord Infomouse wrote:
You humans

Uh, *you* humans? You don't consider yourself human?

When I decide you deserve an explanation, I will explain.

So, wave your hands, and condemn the Axis as everything that is totally
gruesomely evil and inhuman, and slowly but surely, in your inability to
consider grey areas, they creep up and suffocate you in your comfortable
little bed where you are happy like a clam and innocent in every way.

"full of sound an fury, signifying nothing..."

When you say something that deserves a reply, I will reply.

Rick


--
Who told you to think?
I don't give you enough
information to think.
You do what you're told, that's what you do.