On 10/25/2014 10:52 AM, Hils wrote:

Let them join IS if that's what they want. Latest reports suggest that
their war zone is turning into the equivalent of a roach motel for
Muslim barbarians.

Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

Once again, Thank You George W and Company. Hell of a job, Georgie! :-(

On Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:00:28 PM UTC-4, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 10/25/2014 10:52 AM, Hils wrote:

Let them join IS if that's what they want. Latest reports suggest that
their war zone is turning into the equivalent of a roach motel for
Muslim barbarians.

Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

Once again, Thank You George W and Company. Hell of a job, Georgie! :-(

Mirza Masroor Ahmad is the official caliph of one group. There is a photo of him and Prime Minister Stephen Harper during opening of the biggest mosque in Canada. Now this is mind boggling...

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 10/25/2014 10:52 AM, Hils wrote:

Let them join IS if that's what they want. Latest reports suggest that
their war zone is turning into the equivalent of a roach motel for
Muslim barbarians.

Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

No, he was just guessing. If that were the ONLY outcome he came up with, then
he may have had a 'crystal ball'.

But, he covered all the bases, and fooled you into thinking he was some kinda
genius.

On 10/25/2014 10:52 AM, Hils wrote:

Let them join IS if that's what they want. Latest reports suggest that
their war zone is turning into the equivalent of a roach motel for
Muslim barbarians.

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

Once again, Thank You George W and Company. Hell of a job, Georgie! :-(

On 10/26/2014 6:20 AM, dxAce wrote:

No, he was just guessing. If that were the ONLY outcome he came up with, then
he may have had a 'crystal ball'.

But, he covered all the bases, and fooled you into thinking he was some kinda
genius.

Unfortunately, you missed the point. It seems the subtlety was lost on you.

The main point was not that he is a "genius" with a crystal ball, but
rather who'd a even thunk of a "pan-Arabic caliphate" in 2006 and
realize even then that it would be a NIGHTMARE -- which unfortunately,
it is.

As always, "Heck of a job, Georgie".

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 10/25/2014 10:52 AM, Hils wrote:

Let them join IS if that's what they want. Latest reports suggest that
their war zone is turning into the equivalent of a roach motel for
Muslim barbarians.

Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

Once again, Thank You George W and Company. Hell of a job, Georgie! :-(

On 10/26/2014 6:20 AM, dxAce wrote:

No, he was just guessing. If that were the ONLY outcome he came up with, then
he may have had a 'crystal ball'.

But, he covered all the bases, and fooled you into thinking he was some kinda
genius.

Unfortunately, you missed the point. It seems the subtlety was lost on you.

The main point was not that he is a "genius" with a crystal ball, but
rather who'd a even thunk of a "pan-Arabic caliphate" in 2006 and
realize even then that it would be a NIGHTMARE -- which unfortunately,
it is.

As always, "Heck of a job, Georgie".

Actually, the subtlety was lost on YOU once again.

You're a dumbass Liberal!

On 10/26/2014 6:20 AM, dxAce wrote:
[...]
Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

No, he was just guessing. If that were the ONLY outcome he came up with, then
he may have had a 'crystal ball'.

But, he covered all the bases, and fooled you into thinking he was some kinda
genius.




The point is not that he had -- or didn't have -- a "crystal ball."
The point is that this war had a nightmare outcome, very similar to
the worst possible outcome the author could envision.

If the Western world had tended to its own interests, instead of the
interests of the largely-Jewish oligarchs, there would probably be
1) no conflict with the Islamic world and 2) no Muslim immigration
and 3) close to zero terrorism.


With all good wishes,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

On 10/26/2014 6:20 AM, dxAce wrote:
[...]
Just finished reading a book entitled " Fiasco: The American Military
Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005" by Thomas E. Ricks.

Basically about, well, what a fiasco the Iraq "war" was (is) and how
George W and his gang of thieves (Cheney, Pearle, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld) manipulated us into it.

Interesting book backed up with tons of facts and documentation, but
what struck me most was the following:

In the epilog, Ricks gives 3 potential conclusions to the Iraq war
(remember this was written in 2006). He gives a potential "good"
outcome, a neutral one and a bad one. Finally, he gives a fourth outcome
that he calls a "nightmare" outcome -- a pan-Arabic caliphate -- exactly
what ISIS is and what is happening right now. Remember, he wrote this in
2006. Did the guy have a crystal ball or what?

No, he was just guessing. If that were the ONLY outcome he came up with, then
he may have had a 'crystal ball'.

But, he covered all the bases, and fooled you into thinking he was some kinda
genius.


The point is not that he had -- or didn't have -- a "crystal ball."
The point is that this war had a nightmare outcome, very similar to
the worst possible outcome the author could envision.

If the Western world had tended to its own interests, instead of the
interests of the largely-Jewish oligarchs, there would probably be
1) no conflict with the Islamic world and 2) no Muslim immigration
and 3) close to zero terrorism.

What little closed minded world do you live in, pedophile?

Hils wrote:

On 2014-10-26 15:34, dxAce wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
The point is that this war had a nightmare outcome, very similar to
the worst possible outcome the author could envision.

If the Western world had tended to its own interests, instead of the
interests of the largely-Jewish oligarchs, there would probably be
1) no conflict with the Islamic world and 2) no Muslim immigration
and 3) close to zero terrorism.

What little closed minded world do you live in, pedophile?

He happens to be right.

Really? I think he's full of it. First of all, if Kokomo Joe thinks that
author dreamed up the idea of a pan-Arabic caliphate, or pan-islamic
caliphate he is sadly mistaken. That has been floating around for probably
more than a thousand years.

Secondly, I take whatever Strom says with a grain or two of salt. He is
after all a convicted pedophile (he plead guilty).

Hils wrote:

On 2014-10-26 16:05, dxAce wrote:


Hils wrote:

On 2014-10-26 15:34, dxAce wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
The point is that this war had a nightmare outcome, very similar to
the worst possible outcome the author could envision.

If the Western world had tended to its own interests, instead of the
interests of the largely-Jewish oligarchs, there would probably be
1) no conflict with the Islamic world and 2) no Muslim immigration
and 3) close to zero terrorism.

What little closed minded world do you live in, pedophile?

He happens to be right.

Really? I think he's full of it. First of all, if Kokomo Joe thinks that
author dreamed up the idea of a pan-Arabic caliphate, or pan-islamic
caliphate he is sadly mistaken. That has been floating around for probably
more than a thousand years.

That is something which the Western world's leaders should have
remembered before destabilising the region (while laundering taxpayers
money to the MIC and its owners). Without that interference, the region
is likely to have been moving towards a collection of more or less
civilised states instead of being a source of refugees and extremism.

Well, you just keep dreaming, and trying to keep the fantasy alive.

My, my...it is interesting to observe how my original post has morphed
-- and been misinterpreted.

1) I did NOT say the author was a genius.

2) I did NOT say the author dreamed up the idea of a pan-Arabic caliphate.

What I was saying is that it was quite prescient of the author to see
this coming 8 years before it happened and that of his potential
outcomes, he was prescient in calling this outcome a *nightmare*, the
worst possible case.

Try not to read any more into it than that.

On 10/26/2014 11:38 AM, Hils wrote:

That is something which the Western world's leaders should have
remembered before destabilising the region...

Gee, I'm not sure, but this looks a lot like your way of saying "Heck of
a job, Georgie". (not to ignore your Prime Minister, but W and his gang
of criminals *were* the primary architects of the "war")