On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:24:16 -0000 (UTC), analogdial
wrote:

You have proven yourself, in this thread to be both
a Bushie and a Trumpet. Undeniable!

TRUMP wants a big construction project? He should build an
All-American half wave vertical mast for WWVB. It would be
YUUUUUUUGE!!!! And it's location must be kept SECRET.

Here in a nutshell is the biggest problem in this newsgroup. A radio neither
knows nor cares about the political beliefs of the person operating it. I don't
either. Maybe if we stuck to talking about RADIO and kept all this garbage for
other newsgroups where it belongs...

That said...according to my calculations a half wavelength at 60 hz would be
4,100,000 feet. Good luck keeping the location secret. I suspect it might be
visible to the naked eye from anywhere in the western hemisphere - and possibly
from the planet Neptune. LOL!

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 03:42:12 -0800 (PST), wrote:

John Kasupski wrote: "...but apparently there's an unfortunate lack of well-versed
real radio hobbyists around here these days. "


You can blame the INTERET for most of
that decline. A few bucks per month and
a few clicks and one can chat up a storm
about the Kardashians or what-not. lol!
No worries about caps, propogation,
or when the best TX/RX times are.

Yeah, but it doesn't all have to be in THIS newsgroup.

Say John, you seen that Quaid movie
'Frequency' yet? Would love your take on
the technical aspects of it, the ham and
all.

Ouch. I might be the only ham in America who hasn't. I started watching it once
back when it first came out on DVD, saw about the first 20 minutes of it, then
had to quit because something more important came up. I still haven't gotten
around to watching the rest.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 06:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Joe from Kokomo wrote: "I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try
CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV --
even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure...

73, Joe "


Well let me ask you this: I, too, would rather use
'domestic' shortwave time service, but perhaps I'm
not understanding CHU? Does CHU broadcast from
an atomic clock in Canada - or are they just a
repeater for the WWVs?

It's the Canadian government's own time station, operated by the Institute for
National Measurement Standards of the National Research Council of Canada, which
has its own atomic clock.

FWIW, it also has a feature WWV/WWVH/WWVB do not - CHU sends a data signal at
seconds 31 to 39 which allows any computer with a Bell 103 compatible 300 baud
modem to receive/decode an accurate time source.

(If the Bell 103 standard sounds familiar to anyone here, that might be because
it's also the standard we hams use for packet radio on HF - so if your station
is already set up for that, you now know something else you can do with it)

The station is located at 45° 17' 47" N, 75° 45' 22" W, which is near Barrhaven,
Ontario, a short distance from Ottawa. They transmit with 3 kW on 3.330 MHz and
14.670 MHz, and 10 kW on 7.850 MHz. Any sources you see that say CHU operates on
7.335 MHz are obsolete - they moved from there to 7.850 MHz at 0000 UTC on
January 1, 2009 to escape interference from broadcast stations.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:17:20 -0500, Michael Black wrote:

But 25MHz is back, a few years ago someone did some figuring and decided
it could be done without any real cost increase, and they resurrected it
as a test, and then kept on going.

Michael

Well, I just learned something! You're right...NIST's website says it's an
experimental broadcast and may be interrupted or suspended without notice, but
they're putting 2500 watts into the original vertical half-wave dipole located
at the coordinates 40 deg. 40' 50.5"N, 105 deg. 02' 26.6" W. Apparently when
they first went back on the air they were using the broadband monopole that
serves as the backup antenna for WWV's 2.5 MHz transmitter and feeding it only
1000 watts, but they decided to keep that antenna for WWV's backup 2.5 MHz
transmitter and rebuilt the original vertical dipole, which had been converted
to a backup antenna for 15 MHz. Once they did that, they cranked the transmitter
back up to its full rated 2.5 kW output.

I guess the vertical dipole has a lower angle of radiation than the monopole
did, too Good - it'll take fewer hops to get here if 25 MHz ever opens up to my
neck of the woods!

Thanks for your post, Michael. I haven't necessarily kept current on everything
since leaving PopComm, and so I missed hearing about this until now.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

John Kasupski:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU. Got
plenty of boomboxes with SW bands for that.

Until lately I've been using CHU as a 'backup'
of sorts on days(and weeks) where I could not
pick up WWV.

thekma @ dumb****.shorotbus.edu wrote in message
...
John Kasupski:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU.

As always, you're full of ****. Dumb ****.

By the way this morning I get in ZERO time
signals, from Canada, Colorado, or elsewhere.
MASSIVE buzzing interference on all frequencies
from CHU and WWV. I must live in the EMI
center of the UNIVERSE!

John Kasupski wrote:



Here in a nutshell is the biggest problem in this newsgroup. A radio neither
knows nor cares about the political beliefs of the person operating it. I don't
either. Maybe if we stuck to talking about RADIO and kept all this garbage for
other newsgroups where it belongs...

That said...according to my calculations a half wavelength at 60 hz would be
4,100,000 feet. Good luck keeping the location secret. I suspect it might be
visible to the naked eye from anywhere in the western hemisphere - and possibly
from the planet Neptune. LOL!

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

Why don't you email the folks at WWVB and suggest they change their
broadcast frequency from 60 Hz to 60 kHz? I'm sure they'll appreicate
the suggestion.

John Kasupski wrote:

[snip]

Could you go back to being the "defender of the deliberately obtuse"
troll?

Shouldn't be hard, espically if you're all the same person.

None wrote:

thekma @ dumb****.shorotbus.edu wrote in message
...
John Kasupski:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU.

As always, you're full of ****. Dumb ****.

That's the kind of incisive analysis this froup needs. Much better than
your trollmates. Carry on!