On 2/25/2017 5:37 AM, John Kasupski wrote:

I can remember when someone could post a radio-related question here and receive
a useful answer in a reasonably short time from one or more of the many people
here who were actually knowledgeable about shortwave radio.

The OP DID get several "useful answers". IIRC, I responded to the OP two
different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try CHU in
Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason
he seems stuck on WWV -- even though he claims he can't hear it. Go
figure...

73, Joe

Joe from Kokomo wrote: "I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try
CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV --
even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure...

73, Joe "


Well let me ask you this: I, too, would rather use
'domestic' shortwave time service, but perhaps I'm
not understanding CHU? Does CHU broadcast from
an atomic clock in Canada - or are they just a
repeater for the WWVs?

Joe from Kokomo wrote: "I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try
CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV --
even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure...

73, Joe

On 2/25/2017 9:03 AM, wrote:

Well let me ask you this: I, too, would rather use
'domestic' shortwave time service,

Time is time..."domestic" has nothing to do with anything.

but perhaps I'm
not understanding CHU?

Apparently you are not understanding it; that's why I previously posted
the URL for CHU, which explains all.

Does CHU broadcast from
an atomic clock in Canada

Yes

- or are they just a
repeater for the WWVs?

No, see below:

I thought I answered this once before, but maybe not.

No, CHU is not a "repeater" for WWV. They ARE a stand alone time service
run by the Canadian government as Canada's equivalent of the WWV
service. CHU has their own atomic clock and it is every bit as accurate
as WWV. I mention CHU because they are transmitting from a different
location, the point being that if propagation from Colorado to you is
bad, it may (or may not) be better from CHU to you -- but certainly
worth a try.

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 06:03:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Joe from Kokomo wrote: "I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try
CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV --
even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure...

73, Joe "


Well let me ask you this: I, too, would rather use
'domestic' shortwave time service, but perhaps I'm
not understanding CHU? Does CHU broadcast from
an atomic clock in Canada - or are they just a
repeater for the WWVs?

It's the Canadian government's own time station, operated by the Institute for
National Measurement Standards of the National Research Council of Canada, which
has its own atomic clock.

FWIW, it also has a feature WWV/WWVH/WWVB do not - CHU sends a data signal at
seconds 31 to 39 which allows any computer with a Bell 103 compatible 300 baud
modem to receive/decode an accurate time source.

(If the Bell 103 standard sounds familiar to anyone here, that might be because
it's also the standard we hams use for packet radio on HF - so if your station
is already set up for that, you now know something else you can do with it)

The station is located at 45° 17' 47" N, 75° 45' 22" W, which is near Barrhaven,
Ontario, a short distance from Ottawa. They transmit with 3 kW on 3.330 MHz and
14.670 MHz, and 10 kW on 7.850 MHz. Any sources you see that say CHU operates on
7.335 MHz are obsolete - they moved from there to 7.850 MHz at 0000 UTC on
January 1, 2009 to escape interference from broadcast stations.

John D. Kasupski
Niagara Falls, NY

John Kasupski:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU. Got
plenty of boomboxes with SW bands for that.

Until lately I've been using CHU as a 'backup'
of sorts on days(and weeks) where I could not
pick up WWV.

thekma @ dumb****.shorotbus.edu wrote in message
...
John Kasupski:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU.

As always, you're full of ****. Dumb ****.

None wrote:

thekma @ dumb****.shorotbus.edu wrote in message
...
John Kasupski:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU.

As always, you're full of ****. Dumb ****.

That's the kind of incisive analysis this froup needs. Much better than
your trollmates. Carry on!

analogdial wrote: "That's the kind of incisive analysis this froup needs. Much better than
your trollmates. Carry on! "

Sounds like YOU are the troll in this
thread, you and the machine you
just replied to!

By the way this morning I get in ZERO time
signals, from Canada, Colorado, or elsewhere.
MASSIVE buzzing interference on all frequencies
from CHU and WWV. I must live in the EMI
center of the UNIVERSE!

On 2/28/2017 7:17 AM, wrote:

So the only way to ensure both CHU and the
WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios -
one playing WWV and the other, CHU. Got
plenty of boomboxes with SW bands for that.

Huh???

Whatever are you talking about???

What do you mean by "ensure both CHU and the WWVs are in sync"?

Sync? The American (WWV) and Canadian (CHU) atomic clocks are within
*fractions* of a microsecond of each other.

Why are you making this so difficult and why are you beating it to
death? What don't you understand about WWV and CHU being *identical*
(other than fractions of a microsecond RF propagation differences)?