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Upgrading the electric and will be shut down on Feb. 21 and 22 . Up to 8 hours each day.
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, analogdial wrote:
wrote: Upgrading the electric and will be shut down on Feb. 21 and 22 . Up to 8 hours each day. from NIST.GOV: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTAGE: Due to an electrical upgrade, Radio Station WWV will be off the air on all frequencies on February 21 and 22, 2017. The outages will occur between 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, and will not exceed 8 hours duration each day. I've got too much politics on the brain. I was SURE the notice said: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTRAGE The guy who sits in the box telling the time 24hours a day, 7 days a week for all these years is finally tired of it all. So they are really giving him a two day vacation, the first since WWV moved to Colorado over fifty years ago. Michael |
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On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5, Michael Black wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, analogdial wrote: wrote: Upgrading the electric and will be shut down on Feb. 21 and 22 . Up to 8 hours each day. from NIST.GOV: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTAGE: Due to an electrical upgrade, Radio Station WWV will be off the air on all frequencies on February 21 and 22, 2017. The outages will occur between 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, and will not exceed 8 hours duration each day. I've got too much politics on the brain. I was SURE the notice said: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTRAGE The guy who sits in the box telling the time 24hours a day, 7 days a week for all these years is finally tired of it all. So they are really giving him a two day vacation, the first since WWV moved to Colorado over fifty years ago. Michael Pretty much what happened ... actually since 1966 there were 3 (three!)different male voice announcers at WWV: Don Elliot Heald , John Doyle and Lee Rodgers. |
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Michael Black wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, analogdial wrote: wrote: Upgrading the electric and will be shut down on Feb. 21 and 22 . Up to 8 hours each day. from NIST.GOV: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTAGE: Due to an electrical upgrade, Radio Station WWV will be off the air on all frequencies on February 21 and 22, 2017. The outages will occur between 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, and will not exceed 8 hours duration each day. I've got too much politics on the brain. I was SURE the notice said: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTRAGE The guy who sits in the box telling the time 24hours a day, 7 days a week for all these years is finally tired of it all. So they are really giving him a two day vacation, the first since WWV moved to Colorado over fifty years ago. Michael Slacker. He should be ashamed. The woman at WWVH does the time announcements 24/7 AND finds time between the announcements to do phone company announcements and she's also giving me directions on my GPS. |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, analogdial wrote:
Michael Black wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, analogdial wrote: wrote: Upgrading the electric and will be shut down on Feb. 21 and 22 . Up to 8 hours each day. from NIST.GOV: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTAGE: Due to an electrical upgrade, Radio Station WWV will be off the air on all frequencies on February 21 and 22, 2017. The outages will occur between 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, and will not exceed 8 hours duration each day. I've got too much politics on the brain. I was SURE the notice said: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTRAGE The guy who sits in the box telling the time 24hours a day, 7 days a week for all these years is finally tired of it all. So they are really giving him a two day vacation, the first since WWV moved to Colorado over fifty years ago. Michael Slacker. He should be ashamed. The woman at WWVH does the time announcements 24/7 AND finds time between the announcements to do phone company announcements and she's also giving me directions on my GPS. I wsa thinking after I posted that this is a good time to receive WWVH. Though I remember, back when I spent more time listening to WWV, that WWVH would come in fairly regularly. SInce the voice was female, and the voice announcement was at a different time, you could hear it, and know it was WWVH because it wsa a female announcer. The rest lined up really well, so you didn't get a heterodyne, or double ticks. For those who need their standard time fix tomorrow and Wednesday, CHU keeps on ticking, though the odd frequencies made it less useful for adjusting a crystal calibrator. Michael |
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On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 6:12:43 PM UTC-5, analogdial wrote:
Michael Black wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, analogdial wrote: wrote: Upgrading the electric and will be shut down on Feb. 21 and 22 . Up to 8 hours each day. from NIST.GOV: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTAGE: Due to an electrical upgrade, Radio Station WWV will be off the air on all frequencies on February 21 and 22, 2017. The outages will occur between 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, and will not exceed 8 hours duration each day. I've got too much politics on the brain. I was SURE the notice said: NOTICE OF SCHEDULED BROADCAST OUTRAGE The guy who sits in the box telling the time 24hours a day, 7 days a week for all these years is finally tired of it all. So they are really giving him a two day vacation, the first since WWV moved to Colorado over fifty years ago. Michael Slacker. He should be ashamed. The woman at WWVH does the time announcements 24/7 AND finds time between the announcements to do phone company announcements and she's also giving me directions on my GPS. That was Jane Barbe at WWVH. Nearly ALL Bell System recordings used her sweet voice. She passed in 2003. |
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Michael Black wrote: "
For those who need their standard time fix tomorrow and Wednesday, CHU keeps on ticking, though the odd frequencies made it less useful for adjusting a crystal calibrator. Michael " Ironic, ehh? That Canadian time station is so reliable, yet the stations in the country WHERE THE ATOMIC CLOCKS ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED have, over the last 15 years, become hit or miss reception, here on the east coast at least. And can someone set me straight: From WHERE do each of the following time stations transmit?... WWV? WWVB? WWVH?? |
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thekma @ tardsRtheckma.shortbus.edu wrote in message
... the country WHERE THE ATOMIC CLOCKS ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED You're a ****ing idiot. have, over the last 15 years, become hit or miss reception, here on the east coast at least. Especially when you don't even know what frequencies to tune in. You've already explained that you don't understand the advanced math required to tune a receiver to a station's frequency, because of your shoe-sized IQ. And can someone set me straight: No, it's not possible. You're too ****ing stupid. From WHERE do each of the following time stations transmit?... WWV? WWVB? WWVH?? WTF? WWYWSIEB? WAFA. FCKWAFA. |
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Analogdial wrote: "WHY do you want to know? There's a damn good reason the locationSNIP"
Because knowing the locations might be helpful in knowing which ones are EASIER TO RECEIVE. You one of those Bushies who thinks everyone's a "turr'ist"?? THINK. (it's something you are still free to do!) |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:47:56 +0000, analogdial wrote:
I think you have excessive curiosity concerning America's Top Secret ATOMIC TIME PROGRAM. If you're thinking that ATOMIC TIME TECHNOLOGY will somehow aid you in building a TIME MACHINE, I should warn you that that approach HARDLY EVER works. Correct, it has only worked once. However, it hasn't happened yet. :) Brooks |
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analogdial wrote: "I think you have excessive curiosity concerning America's Top Secret
ATOMIC TIME PROGRAM. If you're thinking that ATOMIC TIME TECHNOLOGY will somehow aid you in building a TIME MACHINE, I should warnFLLLLUSSSHHHHH!! Wo-wo-WOOAAA! Chill! You've gone off on a greater tangent than Jimmy Blozet when his car threw a wheel at Daytona. All I want is to be able to tune in to 5, 10. 15, 20, or 25mHz once per month to reset my windup and other dummy clocks and watches! That's. all! |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 04:38:30 -0000 (UTC), analogdial
wrote: wrote: analogdial wrote: "I think you have excessive curiosity concerning America's Top Secret ATOMIC TIME PROGRAM. If you're thinking that ATOMIC TIME TECHNOLOGY will somehow aid you in building a TIME MACHINE, I should warnFLLLLUSSSHHHHH!! Wo-wo-WOOAAA! Chill! You've gone off on a greater tangent than Jimmy Blozet when his car threw a wheel at Daytona. All I want is to be able to tune in to 5, 10. 15, 20, or 25mHz once per month to reset my windup and other dummy clocks and watches! That's. all! Isn't it OBVIOUS? The FEDS are well aware of your UN-AMERICAN attempts to obtain the ABOVE TOP SECRET details and locations of America's ATOMIC TIME PROGRAM. You have GOOGLESOURCED the entire internet and, of course, come up with ZILCH. Not even CNN or the NEW YORK TIMES would dare divulge the SECURE location of America's ATOMIC TIME TRANSMITTERS. By now, I'm sure you're aware that the US Government has SELECTIVELY BLOCKED your reception of ATOM TIME. I urge you to turn yourself in to the FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND ATOMIC TIME SECURITY immediately. There is nowhere or nowhen to hide. I can remember when someone could post a radio-related question here and receive a useful answer in a reasonably short time from one or more of the many people here who were actually knowledgeable about shortwave radio. Now, sadlly, there is instead a bunch of nitwits who seem to think someone may have somehow gotten hold of five cruise missiles and plans to launch one at each antenna site for the five WWV transmitters (one for each frequency) using the coordinates given in the newsgroup as targeting data. Pathetic! WWV antenna coordinates (WGS84): 2.5 MHz - 40°40'55.0 N, 105°02'33.6 W 5 MHz - 40°40'41.9 N, 105°02'27.2 W 10 MHz - 40°40'47.7 N, 105°02'27.4 W 15 MHz - 40°40'44.8 N, 105°02'26.9 W 20 MHz - 40°40'52.8 N, 105°02'30.9 W This information appears in NIST Special Publication 250-67, which was released in 2005 and has complete info on WWV as well as on WWVH and WWVB - including site maps and photographs. It can be freely downloaded in Portable Document Format (PDF) from the following URL: http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/general/pdf/1969.pdf My apologies to the OP for not posting this sooner. I honestly thought somebody else would have finally gotten around to doing so by now, but apparently there's an unfortunate lack of well-versed real radio hobbyists around here these days. John D. Kasupski, W2PIO Niagara Falls, New York, USA TS-450S/TS-50/DX-394/Wires |
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John Kasupski wrote: "This information appears in NIST Special Publication
250-67, which was released in 2005 and has complete info on WWV as well as on WWVH and WWVB - including site maps and photographs." Thank you John. So based on those coordinates they are all roughly on the same patch of land, just at the opposite end of the country from me. Odd, because I swore the 'B' in WWVB stood for Boulder, and the H stood for Hawaii(or Honolulu). Good news is, between their power-down and up, and some electrical work I had done last Tuesday, I now more consistently get in the signal at 5 and 10mHz. Seems the noise floor is a tad lower now in my local area, enough for me to HEAR the dang things! :) Now for the 40+yr old dining room chandelier & dimmer knob, which induces a loud BUZZZZ on my AM reception at a particular point on said dimmer. LOL |
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John Kasupski wrote: "...but apparently there's an unfortunate lack of well-versed
real radio hobbyists around here these days. " You can blame the INTERET for most of that decline. A few bucks per month and a few clicks and one can chat up a storm about the Kardashians or what-not. lol! No worries about caps, propogation, or when the best TX/RX times are. Say John, you seen that Quaid movie 'Frequency' yet? Would love your take on the technical aspects of it, the ham and all. |
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Welcome to the anonymity of the internet.
-Mike On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 05:37:52 -0500, John Kasupski wrote: I can remember when someone could post a radio-related question here and receive a useful answer in a reasonably short time from one or more of the many people here who were actually knowledgeable about shortwave radio. Now, sadlly, there is instead a bunch of nitwits who seem to think someone may have somehow gotten hold of five cruise missiles and plans to launch one at each antenna site for the five WWV transmitters (one for each frequency) using the coordinates given in the newsgroup as targeting data. Pathetic! |
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On 2/25/2017 5:37 AM, John Kasupski wrote:
I can remember when someone could post a radio-related question here and receive a useful answer in a reasonably short time from one or more of the many people here who were actually knowledgeable about shortwave radio. The OP DID get several "useful answers". IIRC, I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV -- even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure... 73, Joe |
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Joe from Kokomo wrote: "I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try
CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV -- even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure... 73, Joe " Well let me ask you this: I, too, would rather use 'domestic' shortwave time service, but perhaps I'm not understanding CHU? Does CHU broadcast from an atomic clock in Canada - or are they just a repeater for the WWVs? |
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John Kasupski wrote:
I can remember when someone could post a radio-related question here and receive a useful answer in a reasonably short time from one or more of the many people here who were actually knowledgeable about shortwave radio. I can remember a time when a poster (this poster, in fact) asked this question and got answer. Polite, civil answers. This is the third go-round. Now, sadlly, there is instead a bunch of nitwits who seem to think someone may have somehow gotten hold of five cruise missiles and plans to launch one at each antenna site for the five WWV transmitters (one for each frequency) using the coordinates given in the newsgroup as targeting data. Pathetic! Amazing, isn't it? There REALLY isn't any reason to keep trying to getgetting the same easy answers from the newsgroup, unless someone is trolling. Next time the "I can't hear WWV!" question pops up I'll enjoy your patient explaination. |
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analogdial wrote: "John Kasupski wrote:
Now, sadlly, there is instead a bunch of nitwits who seem to think someone may have somehow gotten hold of five cruise missiles and plans to launch one at each antenna site for the five WWV transmitters (one for each frequency) using the coordinates given in the newsgroup as targeting data. Pathetic! Amazing, isn't it? There REALLY isn't any reason to keep trying to getgetting the same easy answers from the newsgroup, unless someone is trolling. " analog: John was referring to YOU and YOUR diatribes about me being a "terrorist" who wants to destroy the WWV transmitters! DUH... |
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Joe from Kokomo wrote: "I responded to the OP two different times that if he could not hear WWV, he should try CHU in Canada, I even posted CHU's URL for his convenience. But for some reason he seems stuck on WWV -- even though he claims he can't hear it. Go figure... 73, Joe On 2/25/2017 9:03 AM, wrote: Well let me ask you this: I, too, would rather use 'domestic' shortwave time service, Time is time..."domestic" has nothing to do with anything. but perhaps I'm not understanding CHU? Apparently you are not understanding it; that's why I previously posted the URL for CHU, which explains all. Does CHU broadcast from an atomic clock in Canada Yes - or are they just a repeater for the WWVs? No, see below: I thought I answered this once before, but maybe not. No, CHU is not a "repeater" for WWV. They ARE a stand alone time service run by the Canadian government as Canada's equivalent of the WWV service. CHU has their own atomic clock and it is every bit as accurate as WWV. I mention CHU because they are transmitting from a different location, the point being that if propagation from Colorado to you is bad, it may (or may not) be better from CHU to you -- but certainly worth a try. |
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analogdial wrote:
- show quoted text - "Isn't it OBVIOUS? The FEDS are well aware of your UN-AMERICAN attempts to obtain the ABOVE TOP SECRET details and locations of America's ATOMIC TIME PROGRAM. You have GOOGLESOURCED the entire internet and, of course, come up with ZILCH. Not even CNN or the NEW YORK TIMES would dare divulge the SECURE location of America's ATOMIC TIME TRANSMITTERS. By now, I'm sure you're aware that the US Government has SELECTIVELY BLOCKED your reception of ATOM TIME. I urge you to turn yourself in to the FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND ATOMIC TIME SECURITY immediately. There is nowhere or nowhen to hide. " Sure looks like it came from YOU - in response to my wanting to know the locations of WWV/B/H transmitters! You have proven yourself, in this thread to be both a Bushie and a Trumpet. Undeniable! |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017, John Kasupski wrote:
I can remember when someone could post a radio-related question here and receive a useful answer in a reasonably short time from one or more of the many people here who were actually knowledgeable about shortwave radio. Now, sadlly, there is instead a bunch of nitwits who seem to think someone may have somehow gotten hold of five cruise missiles and plans to launch one at each antenna site for the five WWV transmitters (one for each frequency) using the coordinates given in the newsgroup as targeting data. Pathetic! WWV antenna coordinates (WGS84): 2.5 MHz - 40°40'55.0 N, 105°02'33.6 W 5 MHz - 40°40'41.9 N, 105°02'27.2 W 10 MHz - 40°40'47.7 N, 105°02'27.4 W 15 MHz - 40°40'44.8 N, 105°02'26.9 W 20 MHz - 40°40'52.8 N, 105°02'30.9 W This information appears in NIST Special Publication 250-67, which was released in 2005 and has complete info on WWV as well as on WWVH and WWVB - including site maps and photographs. It can be freely downloaded in Portable Document Format (PDF) from the following URL: http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/general/pdf/1969.pdf My apologies to the OP for not posting this sooner. I honestly thought somebody else would have finally gotten around to doing so by now, but apparently there's an unfortunate lack of well-versed real radio hobbyists around here these days. But 25MHz is back, a few years ago someone did some figuring and decided it could be done without any real cost increase, and they resurrected it as a test, and then kept on going. Michael |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:42:54 -0000 (UTC), analogdial
wrote: wrote: analog: John was referring to YOU and YOUR diatribes about me being a "terrorist" who wants to destroy the WWV transmitters! DUH... No, John was referring to no one. He insincerely made up the fake claim about the cruise missies and targeting information. Not really. I indeed WAS referring to your post - and if the availability of the hardware wasn't an issue, cruis missiles would be the easiest way to do it since they are in the military inventories of numerous countries and, being equipped with their own guidance systems, are pretty much fire-and-forget. Fortunately, however, you can't simply walk into Home Depot and buy half a dozen cruise missiles with the necessary means of launching them. That makes the idea of them being used in a terrorist attack decidedly far-fetched - but what are the odds of a terrorist, or a group of terrorists, deciding to take out WWV anyway? If nobody calls in sick on any given day, there's going to be maybe half a dozen employees there. The way terrorists think, that's way too much effort for far too little results. Better to do a shopping mall the Saturday before Christmas. But just for the sake of argument, let's suppose for the moment that for some reason some "lone wolf" nutcase actually wanted to do it. Modern field artillery systems could handle the job too, but again, they don't sell mortars, cannons, and rockets at Wal-Mart, and even if you went down to San Pedro, California where the USS Iowa is on display as a museum ship and somehow gained control of the entire vessel, a target somewhere in Colorado would be more than a little outside the 20.55 nautical mile range of her 16-inch guns. An aircraft could also be used to attack the site where WWV/WWVB are located, but that is subject to its own set of obstacles. You won't find bombers, fighter planes, and the ordnance to arm such aircraft at a local Sam's Club. Uncle Sam has that stuff, but it's guarded by armed soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, and civilian airports have lots of security in place these days too. The odds of a "lone wolf" conducting such an attack from the air therefore seems pretty slim, although I suppose it would provide some interesting listening for anyone within range with a receiver capable of monitoring AICC and guard... grin Anyway, that basically leaves us with someone physically showing up at the site, defeating the security measures there, and destroying the transmitters with explosives or by other means, That may or may not be possible to pull off - but the attacker(s) wouldn't need the GPS coordinates of the antennas to do it. Therefore, implying that someone wants to obtain those coordinates for nefarious purposes is, as I said upthread, pathetic - and also typifies the very kind of paranoid fear REAL terrorists WANT you to feel. (Why do you think they're called "terror-ists" to begin with?) John D. Kasupski Niagara Falls, NY |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:24:16 -0000 (UTC), analogdial
wrote: You have proven yourself, in this thread to be both a Bushie and a Trumpet. Undeniable! TRUMP wants a big construction project? He should build an All-American half wave vertical mast for WWVB. It would be YUUUUUUUGE!!!! And it's location must be kept SECRET. Here in a nutshell is the biggest problem in this newsgroup. A radio neither knows nor cares about the political beliefs of the person operating it. I don't either. Maybe if we stuck to talking about RADIO and kept all this garbage for other newsgroups where it belongs... That said...according to my calculations a half wavelength at 60 hz would be 4,100,000 feet. Good luck keeping the location secret. I suspect it might be visible to the naked eye from anywhere in the western hemisphere - and possibly from the planet Neptune. LOL! John D. Kasupski Niagara Falls, NY |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:17:20 -0500, Michael Black wrote:
But 25MHz is back, a few years ago someone did some figuring and decided it could be done without any real cost increase, and they resurrected it as a test, and then kept on going. Michael Well, I just learned something! You're right...NIST's website says it's an experimental broadcast and may be interrupted or suspended without notice, but they're putting 2500 watts into the original vertical half-wave dipole located at the coordinates 40 deg. 40' 50.5"N, 105 deg. 02' 26.6" W. Apparently when they first went back on the air they were using the broadband monopole that serves as the backup antenna for WWV's 2.5 MHz transmitter and feeding it only 1000 watts, but they decided to keep that antenna for WWV's backup 2.5 MHz transmitter and rebuilt the original vertical dipole, which had been converted to a backup antenna for 15 MHz. Once they did that, they cranked the transmitter back up to its full rated 2.5 kW output. I guess the vertical dipole has a lower angle of radiation than the monopole did, too Good - it'll take fewer hops to get here if 25 MHz ever opens up to my neck of the woods! Thanks for your post, Michael. I haven't necessarily kept current on everything since leaving PopComm, and so I missed hearing about this until now. John D. Kasupski Niagara Falls, NY |
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John Kasupski:
So the only way to ensure both CHU and the WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios - one playing WWV and the other, CHU. Got plenty of boomboxes with SW bands for that. Until lately I've been using CHU as a 'backup' of sorts on days(and weeks) where I could not pick up WWV. |
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thekma @ dumb****.shorotbus.edu wrote in message
... John Kasupski: So the only way to ensure both CHU and the WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios - one playing WWV and the other, CHU. As always, you're full of ****. Dumb ****. |
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By the way this morning I get in ZERO time
signals, from Canada, Colorado, or elsewhere. MASSIVE buzzing interference on all frequencies from CHU and WWV. I must live in the EMI center of the UNIVERSE! |
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John Kasupski wrote:
Here in a nutshell is the biggest problem in this newsgroup. A radio neither knows nor cares about the political beliefs of the person operating it. I don't either. Maybe if we stuck to talking about RADIO and kept all this garbage for other newsgroups where it belongs... That said...according to my calculations a half wavelength at 60 hz would be 4,100,000 feet. Good luck keeping the location secret. I suspect it might be visible to the naked eye from anywhere in the western hemisphere - and possibly from the planet Neptune. LOL! John D. Kasupski Niagara Falls, NY Why don't you email the folks at WWVB and suggest they change their broadcast frequency from 60 Hz to 60 kHz? I'm sure they'll appreicate the suggestion. |
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John Kasupski wrote:
[snip] Could you go back to being the "defender of the deliberately obtuse" troll? Shouldn't be hard, espically if you're all the same person. |
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thekma @ dumb****.shorotbus.edu wrote in message ... John Kasupski: So the only way to ensure both CHU and the WWVs are in sync is to have two SW radios - one playing WWV and the other, CHU. As always, you're full of ****. Dumb ****. That's the kind of incisive analysis this froup needs. Much better than your trollmates. Carry on! |
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