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Old September 13th 03, 11:56 PM
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"Don Forsling" wrote in message
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Yes it has and yes I do. The truth of your point simply points up the

truth
of the contention you're arguing against. In turns of international
broadcasting nations and transmitters on the air and listeners using
shortwave, SW has deminished each and every year since Kennedy was
president. And, I suppose that within the next year, yet another nation

or
two will announce that they're discontinuing international broadcasting

via
shortwave. So ask yourself this: "Are there as many stations on the air
now for as many hours as when I started in the hobby?" Your answer will

be
"no." It's "no" because, yes, shortwave _is_ dying. I take no
satisfaction in this, but the facts are the facts and they are

indisputable.
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Even if international broadcasting disappeared entirely, there would still
be shortwave radio.

There's less co-channel and adjacent channel interference, the Soviet
woodpecker is gone and the US domestic SW broadcasters are far more
entertaining than the BBC or Radio Moscow.

There's still hams, military, avaition and nautical communications. Still
some utililties, too. Never been more pirates. I can't go more than a few
days without stumbling across a numbers station.

As far as I'm concerned, shortwave radio has never been better.

Frank Dresser


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Old September 14th 03, 04:57 AM
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well put....

if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that
oriental woman that would continuously read off
a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue...
over and over? I never knew what that was, but
it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time.

Clint
KB5ZHT

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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"Don Forsling" wrote in message
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Yes it has and yes I do. The truth of your point simply points up the

truth
of the contention you're arguing against. In turns of international
broadcasting nations and transmitters on the air and listeners using
shortwave, SW has deminished each and every year since Kennedy was
president. And, I suppose that within the next year, yet another nation

or
two will announce that they're discontinuing international broadcasting

via
shortwave. So ask yourself this: "Are there as many stations on the

air
now for as many hours as when I started in the hobby?" Your answer will

be
"no." It's "no" because, yes, shortwave _is_ dying. I take no
satisfaction in this, but the facts are the facts and they are

indisputable.
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Don Forsling

"Iowa--Gateway to Those Big Rectangular States"



Even if international broadcasting disappeared entirely, there would still
be shortwave radio.

There's less co-channel and adjacent channel interference, the Soviet
woodpecker is gone and the US domestic SW broadcasters are far more
entertaining than the BBC or Radio Moscow.

There's still hams, military, avaition and nautical communications. Still
some utililties, too. Never been more pirates. I can't go more than a

few
days without stumbling across a numbers station.

As far as I'm concerned, shortwave radio has never been better.

Frank Dresser




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Old September 14th 03, 05:10 AM
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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well put....

if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that
oriental woman that would continuously read off
a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue...
over and over? I never knew what that was, but
it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time.

Clint
KB5ZHT

The most common ones here are voiced by an automated female in Spanish.
They are more fun to theorize about than actually listen to. Here's a few
links:

http://www.spynumbers.com/

http://home.freeuk.com/spook007/

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

Frank Dresser



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Old September 14th 03, 09:57 AM
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 04:10:46 GMT, Frank Dresser
wrote:

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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well put....

if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that
oriental woman that would continuously read off
a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue...
over and over? I never knew what that was, but
it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time.

Clint
KB5ZHT

The most common ones here are voiced by an automated female in Spanish.
They are more fun to theorize about than actually listen to. Here's a few
links:

http://www.spynumbers.com/

http://home.freeuk.com/spook007/

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

Frank Dresser


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have you heard, then, the one i'm referring two?
She sounded as though she spoke with an oriental
accent (my oppinion), but it was in english....
a series of four numbers, a pause, then a series of
another four numbers... continuously. I never
listened long enough to see if there was a pattern,
but then again, i would get too bored before that
could ever happen and change the frequencies.

She changed frequencies periodically, I think (I
never found her on the same one), and I heard that
nobody ever could find the station, that the transmission
point kept moving. I local buddy of mine and ham
radio operator who is now a silent key, KB5HUD
Jerry, was a big conspiracy theory nut and "black
helicopter" type, and boy, when he'd pull a cork at night
and get slobbery drunk on the ham bands, boy would
he churn out his ideas about "what it all meant".

I found it hard to believe, though, that nobody in this
day and age of technology, satellite triangulation and
so forth, that she could not be found if somebody wanted
to find the transmission point bad enough.


Clint
KB5ZHT


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Old September 14th 03, 09:44 PM
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It's not just one. There are lots of them.
"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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well put....

if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that
oriental woman that would continuously read off
a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue...
over and over? I never knew what that was, but
it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time.

Clint
KB5ZHT

--

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If you sympathize with terrorists & middle eastern tyrants,
vote for liberals...

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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"Don Forsling" wrote in message
...



Yes it has and yes I do. The truth of your point simply points up the

truth
of the contention you're arguing against. In turns of international
broadcasting nations and transmitters on the air and listeners using
shortwave, SW has deminished each and every year since Kennedy was
president. And, I suppose that within the next year, yet another

nation
or
two will announce that they're discontinuing international

broadcasting
via
shortwave. So ask yourself this: "Are there as many stations on the

air
now for as many hours as when I started in the hobby?" Your answer

will
be
"no." It's "no" because, yes, shortwave _is_ dying. I take no
satisfaction in this, but the facts are the facts and they are

indisputable.
--



--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
--
Don Forsling

"Iowa--Gateway to Those Big Rectangular States"



Even if international broadcasting disappeared entirely, there would

still
be shortwave radio.

There's less co-channel and adjacent channel interference, the Soviet
woodpecker is gone and the US domestic SW broadcasters are far more
entertaining than the BBC or Radio Moscow.

There's still hams, military, avaition and nautical communications.

Still
some utililties, too. Never been more pirates. I can't go more than a

few
days without stumbling across a numbers station.

As far as I'm concerned, shortwave radio has never been better.

Frank Dresser






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