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September 13th 03, 11:56 PM
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"Don Forsling" wrote in message ... Yes it has and yes I do. The truth of your point simply points up the truth of the contention you're arguing against. In turns of international broadcasting nations and transmitters on the air and listeners using shortwave, SW has deminished each and every year since Kennedy was president. And, I suppose that within the next year, yet another nation or two will announce that they're discontinuing international broadcasting via shortwave. So ask yourself this: "Are there as many stations on the air now for as many hours as when I started in the hobby?" Your answer will be "no." It's "no" because, yes, shortwave _is_ dying. I take no satisfaction in this, but the facts are the facts and they are indisputable. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- Don Forsling "Iowa--Gateway to Those Big Rectangular States" Even if international broadcasting disappeared entirely, there would still be shortwave radio. There's less co-channel and adjacent channel interference, the Soviet woodpecker is gone and the US domestic SW broadcasters are far more entertaining than the BBC or Radio Moscow. There's still hams, military, avaition and nautical communications. Still some utililties, too. Never been more pirates. I can't go more than a few days without stumbling across a numbers station. As far as I'm concerned, shortwave radio has never been better. Frank Dresser |
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September 14th 03, 04:57 AM
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well put....
if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that oriental woman that would continuously read off a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue... over and over? I never knew what that was, but it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time. Clint KB5ZHT -- -- If you sympathize with terrorists & middle eastern tyrants, vote for liberals... -- "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Don Forsling" wrote in message ... Yes it has and yes I do. The truth of your point simply points up the truth of the contention you're arguing against. In turns of international broadcasting nations and transmitters on the air and listeners using shortwave, SW has deminished each and every year since Kennedy was president. And, I suppose that within the next year, yet another nation or two will announce that they're discontinuing international broadcasting via shortwave. So ask yourself this: "Are there as many stations on the air now for as many hours as when I started in the hobby?" Your answer will be "no." It's "no" because, yes, shortwave _is_ dying. I take no satisfaction in this, but the facts are the facts and they are indisputable. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- Don Forsling "Iowa--Gateway to Those Big Rectangular States" Even if international broadcasting disappeared entirely, there would still be shortwave radio. There's less co-channel and adjacent channel interference, the Soviet woodpecker is gone and the US domestic SW broadcasters are far more entertaining than the BBC or Radio Moscow. There's still hams, military, avaition and nautical communications. Still some utililties, too. Never been more pirates. I can't go more than a few days without stumbling across a numbers station. As far as I'm concerned, shortwave radio has never been better. Frank Dresser |
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September 14th 03, 05:10 AM
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message ... well put.... if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that oriental woman that would continuously read off a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue... over and over? I never knew what that was, but it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time. Clint KB5ZHT The most common ones here are voiced by an automated female in Spanish. They are more fun to theorize about than actually listen to. Here's a few links: http://www.spynumbers.com/ http://home.freeuk.com/spook007/ http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ Frank Dresser |
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September 14th 03, 09:57 AM
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 04:10:46 GMT, Frank Dresser
wrote: "Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message ... well put.... if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that oriental woman that would continuously read off a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue... over and over? I never knew what that was, but it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time. Clint KB5ZHT The most common ones here are voiced by an automated female in Spanish. They are more fun to theorize about than actually listen to. Here's a few links: http://www.spynumbers.com/ http://home.freeuk.com/spook007/ http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ Frank Dresser - wow, that must be the *slowest* way to transfer files! |
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#5
September 14th 03, 03:00 PM
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have you heard, then, the one i'm referring two?
She sounded as though she spoke with an oriental accent (my oppinion), but it was in english.... a series of four numbers, a pause, then a series of another four numbers... continuously. I never listened long enough to see if there was a pattern, but then again, i would get too bored before that could ever happen and change the frequencies. She changed frequencies periodically, I think (I never found her on the same one), and I heard that nobody ever could find the station, that the transmission point kept moving. I local buddy of mine and ham radio operator who is now a silent key, KB5HUD Jerry, was a big conspiracy theory nut and "black helicopter" type, and boy, when he'd pull a cork at night and get slobbery drunk on the ham bands, boy would he churn out his ideas about "what it all meant". I found it hard to believe, though, that nobody in this day and age of technology, satellite triangulation and so forth, that she could not be found if somebody wanted to find the transmission point bad enough. Clint KB5ZHT -- |
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#6
September 14th 03, 09:44 PM
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It's not just one. There are lots of them.
"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message ... well put.... if, by a numbers station, are you referring to that oriental woman that would continuously read off a series of 4 numbers, pause, and continue... over and over? I never knew what that was, but it sure fed conspiracy theories for a long time. Clint KB5ZHT -- -- If you sympathize with terrorists & middle eastern tyrants, vote for liberals... -- "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Don Forsling" wrote in message ... Yes it has and yes I do. The truth of your point simply points up the truth of the contention you're arguing against. In turns of international broadcasting nations and transmitters on the air and listeners using shortwave, SW has deminished each and every year since Kennedy was president. And, I suppose that within the next year, yet another nation or two will announce that they're discontinuing international broadcasting via shortwave. So ask yourself this: "Are there as many stations on the air now for as many hours as when I started in the hobby?" Your answer will be "no." It's "no" because, yes, shortwave _is_ dying. I take no satisfaction in this, but the facts are the facts and they are indisputable. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- Don Forsling "Iowa--Gateway to Those Big Rectangular States" Even if international broadcasting disappeared entirely, there would still be shortwave radio. There's less co-channel and adjacent channel interference, the Soviet woodpecker is gone and the US domestic SW broadcasters are far more entertaining than the BBC or Radio Moscow. There's still hams, military, avaition and nautical communications. Still some utililties, too. Never been more pirates. I can't go more than a few days without stumbling across a numbers station. As far as I'm concerned, shortwave radio has never been better. Frank Dresser |
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