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Old September 30th 03, 01:16 AM
Frank Dresser
 
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No, there's no traps for non-Internet cable subscribers. This is why
you can sometimes go to Best Buy, buy a cable modem, plug it in and
then call the cable company to program it on. Everything to everyone
in your neighbourhood is sent through one or more (unused for TV)
television channels, the cable modem gets it all, picks out those packets
which are addressed to you and discards the rest.

This is `secure' only because the configuration and operation of the
modems is controlled entirely by the operator on the RF side of the modem.
There is a standard called DOCSIS which the modems must conform to which
standardizes the configuration interface and is intended to minimize the
possibility that the user can fiddle with any of it. This seems to work
well enough (and maybe the idea of watching your neighbours' Internet
traffic is boring enough?) that I haven't heard of people hacking the

modems
the way they do digital cable and DBS receivers, though who knows?



No more interesting than cell phone calls, I suppose. But Billy Tauzin was
so concerned that radio hobbyists would be listening in on phone calls that
he pushed through the cell phone frequency capable scanner ban.


In any case, I think whatever permits cable operators to sell their
service will work equally well for BPL since the situations are
exceedingly similar.

Dennis Ferguson


I suppose, except for the RFI. What can we SWLs do if there's nothing but
BPL hash on the radio? Maybe the Perv in Eammus, Pennsylvania will QSL his
kewl noodie pix downloads.

Frank Dresser


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Old September 30th 03, 01:49 AM
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:16:48 -0500, Frank Dresser wrote
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I suppose, except for the RFI. What can we SWLs do if there's nothing but
BPL hash on the radio?


Frank, I don't know if this is related whatsoever 'cuz I, too, know nothing
about BPL.

When I was in college in the mid 60's, the campus radio station used the
campus power lines rather than a RF transmitter to broadcast.

The main reason I remember it was that there would occasionally be problems
with the signal over power lines (but not the power per se) and soime dorms
could get the station and some - usually one or two - would be cut off for a
day or two.

I'm not sure there is any relationship; just thought I'd throw this up bwg.



Gray Shockley
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Tao Chemical Company
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Old September 30th 03, 02:35 AM
Frank Dresser
 
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"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
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Frank, I don't know if this is related whatsoever 'cuz I, too, know

nothing
about BPL.

When I was in college in the mid 60's, the campus radio station used the
campus power lines rather than a RF transmitter to broadcast.

The main reason I remember it was that there would occasionally be

problems
with the signal over power lines (but not the power per se) and soime

dorms
could get the station and some - usually one or two - would be cut off for

a
day or two.

I'm not sure there is any relationship; just thought I'd throw this up

bwg.



Gray Shockley
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Entropy Maintenance Technician
Tao Chemical Company
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http://www.cybercoffee.org/
Vicksburg, Mississippi US




Reliability is very much related in the general sense that BPL is a largely
unproven technology.

I'd like to know how these transformer bypasses will handle multiple
lightning hits. The pole tranformer gives a bit of lightning surge
protection, and I'd hope the bypassed transformers would be at least as
good.

Frank Dresser


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Old September 30th 03, 02:44 AM
Dee D. Flint
 
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"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:16:48 -0500, Frank Dresser wrote
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I suppose, except for the RFI. What can we SWLs do if there's nothing

but
BPL hash on the radio?


Frank, I don't know if this is related whatsoever 'cuz I, too, know

nothing
about BPL.

When I was in college in the mid 60's, the campus radio station used the
campus power lines rather than a RF transmitter to broadcast.

The main reason I remember it was that there would occasionally be

problems
with the signal over power lines (but not the power per se) and soime

dorms
could get the station and some - usually one or two - would be cut off for

a
day or two.

I'm not sure there is any relationship; just thought I'd throw this up

bwg.



Gray Shockley



Yeah my dormitory did the same thing 35 years ago so BPL is hardly "new".

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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