Thanks Geoff, Point taken.
We do live in an increasingly creepy world;

I carry a small flashlight everywhere,
& should add a tiny SW radio to the mix
Currently carry a Sangean DT 110 around,
I like the Digital display & memories.
If something that size had SW, digital memories & was cheap,
I'd get one in a heartbeat.

During 9/11 we had it during "The Walk Home.";

- & thats how I found out that the Huge Cloud way downtown
was the remains of the WTC...
And the remains of 3,000 people...

Dan



In article ,
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) writes:


In article , Diverd4777 wrote:

If you really need a radio with a crank because all the stores that sell
batteries
have been blown away by an apocalypse,
or
washed to sea by 1,000 Foot Tsunamis,

- Your screwed anyway.!

They may still be there, but impossible to get to. I live in Jersualem.
During the last gulf war, we carried gas masks and outfited sealed rooms.
I carried my gas mask in a gym bag, along with a small radio (with a speaker)
a flashlight, a pack of wet wipes and a small camera.

At home, I had an FR-200. I bought it because we could be sitting in our
sealed room for hours while the radio played loud enough for everyone to
hear.

Most likely we would still have modern conviences, such as electricity,
cable tv and internet. But if the electricty went out, being able to sit
by the light from the radio hearing a human voice from the outside would
be essential. There might have been a hundred AA batteries in another room,
but we could not get to them, nor could we light a candle.

As for stores being closed, even an inch of snow closes the schools here.
No snow tires, no snow plows, and very steep hills. It's gone completely
in a day or two, but while it's here, it's a mess.

Geoff.


--
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Icq/AIM Uin: 2661079 MSN IM: (Not for email)

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

In article , Diverd4777 wrote:

If you really need a radio with a crank because all the stores that sell
batteries
have been blown away by an apocalypse,
or
washed to sea by 1,000 Foot Tsunamis,

- Your screwed anyway.!

They may still be there, but impossible to get to. I live in Jersualem.
During the last gulf war, we carried gas masks and outfited sealed rooms.
I carried my gas mask in a gym bag, along with a small radio (with a speaker)
a flashlight, a pack of wet wipes and a small camera.

At home, I had an FR-200. I bought it because we could be sitting in our
sealed room for hours while the radio played loud enough for everyone to
hear.

Most likely we would still have modern conviences, such as electricity,
cable tv and internet. But if the electricty went out, being able to sit
by the light from the radio hearing a human voice from the outside would
be essential. There might have been a hundred AA batteries in another room,
but we could not get to them, nor could we light a candle.

As for stores being closed, even an inch of snow closes the schools here.
No snow tires, no snow plows, and very steep hills. It's gone completely
in a day or two, but while it's here, it's a mess.

Geoff.

But you still had electricity in your sealed room, correct? Or was the
electricity totally shut off in a "war blackout" like New York and San
Francisco did during World War 2 to prevent enemy bombers from seeing
their targets? In that case, I would think that outfitting your sealed
room with adequate batteries would be a must. Also, I would think that
in the event of a real war (not an intifada) like the Yom Kippur War
where Israel was being bombed that electricity could be easily cut off,
thus necessitating a non-AC radio. Larry Magne in Passport 2004 gave
relatively high marks to the Freeplay Summit which is powered by
cranking a small alternator instead of the spring wound generator like
the original Freeplays. Is it available in Israel?

Diverd4777 wrote:

Thanks Geoff, Point taken.
We do live in an increasingly creepy world;

I carry a small flashlight everywhere,
& should add a tiny SW radio to the mix
Currently carry a Sangean DT 110 around,
I like the Digital display & memories.
If something that size had SW, digital memories & was cheap,
I'd get one in a heartbeat.

Look at the new generation of Chinese SW portables reviewed in 2004
Passport. They may be a little bigger than your mini Sangean, but if
AM/FM/TV went out and you were trapped someplace, they would be nice to
have.

During 9/11 we had it during "The Walk Home.";

- & thats how I found out that the Huge Cloud way downtown
was the remains of the WTC...
And the remains of 3,000 people...

I believe that most New York media outlets had transmission facilities
on top of WTC 2, along with cell phone repeaters and a bunch of other
stuff. IIRC most domestic media in the New York area was out of service
for quite a while. (I do remember that channel 4 had the entire 104th
floor.)


Dan



In article ,
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) writes:


In article , Diverd4777 wrote:

If you really need a radio with a crank because all the stores that sell
batteries
have been blown away by an apocalypse,
or
washed to sea by 1,000 Foot Tsunamis,

- Your screwed anyway.!

They may still be there, but impossible to get to. I live in Jersualem.
During the last gulf war, we carried gas masks and outfited sealed rooms.
I carried my gas mask in a gym bag, along with a small radio (with a speaker)
a flashlight, a pack of wet wipes and a small camera.

At home, I had an FR-200. I bought it because we could be sitting in our
sealed room for hours while the radio played loud enough for everyone to
hear.

Most likely we would still have modern conviences, such as electricity,
cable tv and internet. But if the electricty went out, being able to sit
by the light from the radio hearing a human voice from the outside would
be essential. There might have been a hundred AA batteries in another room,
but we could not get to them, nor could we light a candle.

As for stores being closed, even an inch of snow closes the schools here.
No snow tires, no snow plows, and very steep hills. It's gone completely
in a day or two, but while it's here, it's a mess.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson 972-54-608-069
Icq/AIM Uin: 2661079 MSN IM: (Not for email)

I must have hit on something here. I've been wondering about that Kaito, too.
The description seems spot on, but I haven't seen much information... it seems
like it might be a decent second radio as well as one for the "apocalypse".
I'm looking forward to more dialogue on this subject.

Dan: Still like the Jwin JX-M14.

Me, too. It's easy on batteries. When they can no longer properly support
operation of my eTR7, I use those batteries (actually two AA dry cells) to
power the jWIN for a few more hours of operation. G

I just wish the jWIN had one more SW band on the low end.

Bill, K5BY

In article ,
(WShoots1) writes:

Dan: Still like the Jwin JX-M14.

Me, too. It's easy on batteries. When they can no longer properly support
operation of my eTR7, I use those batteries (actually two AA dry cells) to
power the jWIN for a few more hours of operation. G

I just wish the jWIN had one more SW band on the low end.

Bill, K5BY


Been using the JWIN for an FM radio ;
sending the signals through PC speakers.
The battery life is very good
and the digital read out is a big advantage over other small sets.

It Will pick up 12.095 ( BBC Via AScension Island) off the whip,
so it meets my needs as far as seneitivity goes.
Selectivity? It's only one IF, so at times it overloads with local stations
showing up on Shortwave..
STIL, all in all, its a great little set for $15

I pick up all kinds of SW stuff on my jWIN, using just the whip, and I live in
a metal-sheathed mobilehome.

The audio is crisp in the voice range, so speech as well as piano and horn
music sound great on it. Yes, I use mine on FM quite a bit, too.

I have a spare set of computer speakers. Their power supply isn't portable, but
the ones I have on the computer now are. I just might switch the speakers
around, so my jWIN music system will be portable. G

Bill, K5BY

Interesting. I also live in a faraday cage, (ALUMINUM MOBILE HOME) and I
don't get any signals much less than 88 mhz that can find their way in
through the windows. Ok, I can get the local blowtorch M.W. stations
indoors, but pulling in WWV or any of the H.F. powerhouses on any radio on
it's whip (inside) is impossible...



"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
I pick up all kinds of SW stuff on my jWIN, using just the whip, and I
live in
a metal-sheathed mobilehome.

The audio is crisp in the voice range, so speech as well as piano and horn
music sound great on it. Yes, I use mine on FM quite a bit, too.

I have a spare set of computer speakers. Their power supply isn't
portable, but
the ones I have on the computer now are. I just might switch the speakers
around, so my jWIN music system will be portable. G

Bill, K5BY

Sanjaya wrote:
know I want to buy an "emergency" radio too. The
Kaito KA008 looks pretty good to me, but does anyone
own one and care to give an evaluation.
http://www.kaitousa.com/KA007D.htm

I've got two of what looks to be the same radio except that
it's analog, not digital--an earlier model? I got these
for $20 each from a web discounter. I've got a couple of
other solar/crank radios as well. I find them VERY handy--
one (AM/FM only) lives in my garage. I can listen to the
radio while I'm working in the garage, on solar power, and
don't have to plug in the radio or keep batteries in it.
Where I live, we lose power fairly occasionally, and it IS
a good idea to have plenty of batteries, but I really like
having a couple of radios to hand that don't NEED batteries.

(And I just ordered a solar charging panel for my 80AH
and several 17AH gel-cells for my ham rigs. :-) "Be
prepared" is good advice, IMO!)

_______________________________________________
Ken Kuzenski AC4RD kuzen001 at acpub .duke .edu
_______________________________________________
All disclaimers apply, see? www.duke.edu/~kuzen001

wrote...
Sanjaya wrote:
know I want to buy an "emergency" radio too. The
Kaito KA008 looks pretty good to me, but does anyone
own one and care to give an evaluation.
http://www.kaitousa.com/KA007D.htm

I've got two of what looks to be the same radio except that
it's analog, not digital--an earlier model? I got these
for $20 each from a web discounter. I've got a couple of
other solar/crank radios as well. I find them VERY handy--
one (AM/FM only) lives in my garage. I can listen to the
radio while I'm working in the garage, on solar power, and
don't have to plug in the radio or keep batteries in it.
Where I live, we lose power fairly occasionally, and it IS
a good idea to have plenty of batteries, but I really like
having a couple of radios to hand that don't NEED batteries.

(And I just ordered a solar charging panel for my 80AH
and several 17AH gel-cells for my ham rigs. :-) "Be
prepared" is good advice, IMO!)

_______________________________________________
Ken Kuzenski AC4RD kuzen001 at acpub .duke .edu
_______________________________________________
All disclaimers apply, see? www.duke.edu/~kuzen001


Thanks Ken. I'm seriously considering the Kaito KA008.