what i dont understand is if you guys dont like the deed restrictions
you are legally free not to sign the deed and move to another area
why should the federal government step in and tell some city or housing
community that the CONTRACT you knowingly and willing signed is worthless
you guys and your wives all want the nice classy neighborhoods and gated
communities with the fine trimmed lawns and lexus in every driveway but
you think your special cause you want to have an outside antenna
well how would you feel if your next door neighbor paintes his house the
most aful shade of slime yellow you ever saw? you would be down to the
community meeting griping your heads off so either live with the
contract your signed or move

Dennis Kaylor wrote:

what i dont understand is if you guys dont like the deed restrictions
you are legally free not to sign the deed and move to another area
why should the federal government step in and tell some city or housing
community that the CONTRACT you knowingly and willing signed is worthless
you guys and your wives all want the nice classy neighborhoods and gated
communities with the fine trimmed lawns and lexus in every driveway but
you think your special cause you want to have an outside antenna
well how would you feel if your next door neighbor paintes his house the
most aful shade of slime yellow you ever saw? you would be down to the
community meeting griping your heads off so either live with the
contract your signed or move

Dear HOA's COPS,

NO, it's not time to move. It's time to get sneaky and stealthy with
your antennas, find me if you can. But there isn't a darn thing you can
do about it as long as it's not in the public's eye. By the way, my Dish
Networks dish is going up. Thank you FCC for making them LEGAL. But is
was going up regardless, just like the others have in this housing plan
with such antenna restrictions. HOA's that restricted antennas made
cable the only way your could receive any tv stations. That was illegal
from the start.

As I have said, I am moving into such a housing plan. "WE" don't own a
lexus or similar vehicle and I haven't seen one in the plan. The
majority of people there seem to be down to earth everyday nice people,
until you get to the HOA Cops, which every housing plan with HOA
restrictions of any kind has.

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..

By the way, I haven't signed any such agreement when I bought the house.
I do know that such HOA "BS" does exist just to please the people
residing there that doesn't trust their neighbors. They are the ones
that should move. "TRUST" is the word. I did some checking and the first
house sold in the plan was to a nice family (mechanic) with two
children. He/they have an immaculate looking yard and house. He is a
scanner enthusiast and has his antennas located in his attic, aside from
his dish which is located on the back of roof.

Where there's a will there is a way.

"God Bless America" for the freedoms we still have.

Have a positive day.

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

That is right .... put up the bigest antenna as high as you can get it.
If it stays up more than 6 months then it was not big or high enough!

Willee


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
...
Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph Mowery wrote:

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph, just what is your ham call???

Ralph Mowery wrote:

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to
weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph, just what is your ham call???

KU4PT and I have been a ham for over 30 years.

I don't have a gigantic tower beacuse I am on a small lot and also don't
have the money to put up one like I would like to have. I do have a 40 foot
tower and also a shorter ,maybe about 12 ot 15 feet, with my OSCAR antennas
on them. I just installed two more 20 feet towers with a 10 foot pipe on
them about 140 feet apart to hold up an 80 meter dipole. No trees so to
speak of in the yard.

wrote:

"God Bless America" for the freedoms we still have.

I don't know whether I'll take your way or the spanish way. Spanish
federal antenna laws have gone a long way for the last 15 years.

Allow me to outline the basic principles:

1. Acess to all information services is free. A community, landlord, HOA
or other entity may not oppose to the installation of technical
infrastucture in the "part of the building for exclusive use of the
interested party" or on the "common surfaces of the building shared by
all the users of the property" required to access a particular
information service. The interested party shall cover the costs of
installation and of restoring the common areas to their initial
condition upon termination of usage of the system.

2. If more than one party is interested in the use of a particular
service, they must used shared portions of the same infrastructure and
share the cost. i.e. 5 tenants want Satellite service "A", so they have
to use the same dish. I want to get only FTA channels, with a rotator,
so I get to put up my own dish, using the other tenant's pole and tubes
for the installation, and I heve to reimburse them proportionally for that.

3. SWL and Scanning ist, strangely enough, seen as "access to pubically
available information services". When I put up my first discone on the
roof, the chairman of the owner's board came out, wanting to tell me
"You can't, it's gonna cause TVI". I told him that it was only for
receiving. He asked "What sort of stuff" - I answer "Radio stations fotm
around the world". "Well", he says "I'll need to look if thats allowed"
- "You needn't" I say "I already informed myself" and hand him a
printout of the legal text.

4. Hams are different, but also enjoy more privileges. A ham only gets
the letters for the STATION in Spain, not for the license. So he must
apply for them providing a file with all the elements of his station,
including the radiating ones. Antennas must include calculations about
wind and snow load, guying, etc. Once the application is made, the
spokesman of the homeowners association gets a letter from the telecomm
authority, and has 15 days to oppose. "We don't wand that kind of stuff"
or "All he other tenants have oppsed" are not valid reasons.

Oh, and BTW, CBers must also be individually registered with the provice
telecomm authority, and get a callsign ECB(Province
number)(Three-letter-suffix) and provide initial proof that they
acquired their equipment legally and *with* valid and current type
approval. They also heve to emit their callsign "when beginning and
before endig communication" and "at 5 minutes interval in longer
communications". We have amzingly little complaints about RFI and
similar issues here...

Yes, it's bureaucratic, but what the hell....

Volker Kerkhoff wrote:
1. Acess to all information services is free.

Does God provide it as a miracle? That's the only
way it could be free. I'm willing to bet taxpayers
pay for it and all other "free" governmental services.
--
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Volker Kerkhoff wrote:

1. Acess to all information services is free.


Does God provide it as a miracle? That's the only
way it could be free. I'm willing to bet taxpayers
pay for it and all other "free" governmental services.

Should have specified... Free (as in free speech, not as in free lunch)
not necessarily means free of charge or other contractual terms, but
"must be acessible to anyone wanting to access it and pay the associated
charges and obey the contractual terms that go with it. Alas, I still
can't subscribe to a digital Satellite Pay-TV package sold and marketed
to germany in Spain, because the service provider does not hold a
license for selling in Spain, but I can access the 70-something
Free-to-air Sat cgannels in german, and put up a dish for it, and nobody
can legelly prevent me from doing so.

73,

Volker

On or about Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:00:43 +0100, Volker Kerkhoff
wrote about the following in article
:


Should have specified... Free (as in free speech, not as in free lunch)
not necessarily means free of charge or other contractual terms, but "must

With a statement like that, I knew that you were a Linux user even before
looking at the message headers...


--
Alex / AB2RC
Yaesu Ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl
Why do they call Radio "Wireless", between my shack and antennas
I must have over 1500 feet of wire!