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Old November 29th 03, 03:12 AM
Arthur Harris
 
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"WShoots1" wrote:
It could be a pirate, someone using an old ham rig. There are still AM ham
transmitters out there.

The other night I heard an AM ham on 3885, which I believe is an AM ham

net
frequency. I didn't have time to stick around to learn his call or

anything.

Oh, that's for sure. I have an old Johnson Valiant, and sometimes operate AM
around 3885. There's lots of AM activity here in the northeast.

But the 3530 frequency seems like an unlikely spot for a pirate, especially
early in the morning. The pirates usually operate in the evenings and just
outside the 40 meter band (and many are using ssb). The OP said it sounded
very professional. He had three good quality receivers so I would rule out
intermod. And the frequency isn't a harmonic of any BC freq. Possibly a
spurious output from a BC station. Or somebody re-transmitting a BC station.
In any case, it's very puzzling!

Art Harris N2AH


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Old November 29th 03, 12:23 PM
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It could very well have been a pirate. I really don't know, but I'll keep
listening.

That's a regular occurance on that frequency and on 3.775.
Someone I met years ago I think is the engineer for WBCQ and is a regular on
3.775 yeah am.

73's
Rick

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I could be a pirate, someone using an old ham rig. There are still AM ham
transmitters out there.

The other night I heard an AM ham on 3885, which I believe is an AM ham

net
frequency. I didn't have time to stick around to learn his call or

anything.

Bill, K5BY
SE Texas



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Old November 29th 03, 12:25 PM
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No, I didn't hear any commercials. I only wish they would of given a call
or something to ID it.

I overslept this morning so I didn't get up in time to listen. Right now I
hear CW and plenty of static.

73's
Rick

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"Rick" wrote:
I really don't think so, but maybe.

It was real strong, AM and sounded very professional.

I'm going to monitor this frequecy more often now.

73's
Rick


Hmm. This is intriguing. Did you hear any commercials or references to

towns
or cities?

BTW, where are YOU located?

Art Harris N2AH




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Old November 29th 03, 12:46 PM
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"Rick" wrote:
I overslept this morning so I didn't get up in time to listen. Right now

I
hear CW and plenty of static.


Yep, there's a CW DX contest on this weekend; that's what all the racket is.

The guy you're thinking of is Tim, WA1HLR (WA1 "Henry Yellar") who also does
a couple of shows on WBCQ in Saturday evenings.

You'll hear a lot of great sounding AM rigs between 3870 and 3890 kHz.

Art Harris N2AH


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Old November 30th 03, 11:35 AM
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11:30 UTC
I'm listening to the station again through the cw transmissions. I have it
filtered pretty steep and can hear most of the broadcast.

Well after extensive tuning around, I know what the station is, but I don't
know why I'm receiving it. It's Radio Japan. The frequency I verified it on
was 6.120 MHZ, the audio exactly matches what I'm hearing on 3.530.

The signal isn't that strong. RST S9-S10 so I'm a little puzzled why I'm
hearing it on this frequency and on all 3 of my receivers.

--
73's
Rick

"When in doubt, mumble."
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Receiving an english broadcast on 3.530. AM. Top hits, female announcer.
Been listening for 30 minutes, still no ID. Time:11:32 uct. I looked

through
lots of databases could not find anything. The signal is pretty good,

with
slow fading. RST S7 to 9 with no pre-amplification.

Can anyone identify this station?
Thanks
--
73's
Rick

"When in doubt, mumble."






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Old November 30th 03, 01:17 PM
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"Rick" wrote:
11:30 UTC
I'm listening to the station again through the cw transmissions. I have it
filtered pretty steep and can hear most of the broadcast.

Well after extensive tuning around, I know what the station is, but I

don't
know why I'm receiving it. It's Radio Japan. The frequency I verified it

on
was 6.120 MHZ, the audio exactly matches what I'm hearing on 3.530.

The signal isn't that strong. RST S9-S10 so I'm a little puzzled why I'm
hearing it on this frequency and on all 3 of my receivers.


I believe that broadcast is relayed via Sackville, NB Canada. Since you're
up in Maine, you're pretty close to the transmitter. Could be a low power
spurious output of their tranmitter.

Art Harris N2AH


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Old November 30th 03, 01:34 PM
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Rick wrote:

11:30 UTC
I'm listening to the station again through the cw transmissions. I have it
filtered pretty steep and can hear most of the broadcast.

Well after extensive tuning around, I know what the station is, but I don't
know why I'm receiving it. It's Radio Japan. The frequency I verified it on
was 6.120 MHZ, the audio exactly matches what I'm hearing on 3.530.

The signal isn't that strong. RST S9-S10 so I'm a little puzzled why I'm
hearing it on this frequency and on all 3 of my receivers.


Now that we know who you are hearing it is easy to figure out!

Canada relays Radio Korea on 9650 at that time, and also relays Radio Japan at
that time on 6120.

9650 - 6120 = 3530

It's coming from Sackville itself, and that happens from time to time.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


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Old November 30th 03, 03:55 PM
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"N8KDV" wrote:
Now that we know who you are hearing it is easy to figure out!

Canada relays Radio Korea on 9650 at that time, and also relays Radio

Japan at
that time on 6120.

9650 - 6120 = 3530

It's coming from Sackville itself, and that happens from time to time.


That's obviously what's going on, but I don't understand why he's not
hearing the Radio Korea audio as well as Radio Japan. Also unclear if the
"mixing" is taking place at Sackville or in Rick's receiver(s). Since he
said he heard it on three receivers, I suspect it IS being generated at
Sackville.

Art Harris N2AH


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Old November 30th 03, 11:05 PM
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It wasn't as noticable today as it was the other day due to the heavy CW
on the band this morning.

I'm not sure why I'm not Radio Korea. I am hearing it on all 3 receivers.
I have a 4th one, a RS DX394. Probably should of snapped that on to see if I
could hear it on that as well.

--
73's
Rick

"When in doubt, mumble."
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"N8KDV" wrote:
Now that we know who you are hearing it is easy to figure out!

Canada relays Radio Korea on 9650 at that time, and also relays Radio

Japan at
that time on 6120.

9650 - 6120 = 3530

It's coming from Sackville itself, and that happens from time to time.


That's obviously what's going on, but I don't understand why he's not
hearing the Radio Korea audio as well as Radio Japan. Also unclear if the
"mixing" is taking place at Sackville or in Rick's receiver(s). Since he
said he heard it on three receivers, I suspect it IS being generated at
Sackville.

Art Harris N2AH




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"Rick" wrote:
It wasn't as noticable today as it was the other day due to the heavy CW
on the band this morning.

I'm not sure why I'm not Radio Korea. I am hearing it on all 3 receivers.
I have a 4th one, a RS DX394. Probably should of snapped that on to see if I
could hear it on that as well.


I heard it this morning (Saturday) at 1115z! Here on Long Island the
signal on 3530 was only about S3, but definitely the same program as
6120 (Radio Japan via Sackville). I was hearing the 6120 signal at a
little over S9, and the same for Radio Korea (via Sackville) on 9650.
Those signals would not be strong enough to generate intermod in my
receiver, so I have to believe the signal is coming from Sackville.

The only mystery to me is why I only hear the Radio Japan audio. If
the 3530 signal is generated by "mixing" of 9650 and 6120, both
broadcasts should be heard.

I wonder if Sackville is aware of this anomaly.

Art Harris N2AH


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